Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-06 Thread Jeff
Petro, 2002-Jun-05 18:30 -0700: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:56:43PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Them and everyone else it seems. I gotta wonder if anybody from > > California ever stopped to think that they're turning Oregon into what > > they moved away from... > > If they stopped to thi

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-05 Thread Petro
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:56:43PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Them and everyone else it seems. I gotta wonder if anybody from > California ever stopped to think that they're turning Oregon into what > they moved away from... If they stopped to think, they wouldn't be the Californians that

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff
Paul Johnson, 2002-May-31 23:56 -0700: > > Them and everyone else it seems. I gotta wonder if anybody from > California ever stopped to think that they're turning Oregon into what > they moved away from... > > -- > Baloo > No doubt! I'm a native Californian looking forward to the day I can l

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Jeff
Paul Johnson, 2002-May-31 22:52 -0700: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:35:07PM -0700, Jeff wrote: > > > > ...caught 23 roughly 14" long brook trout last Monday while everone > > > else was at work... > > > > you bastard :-) > > Not really. The tradeoff is doing 10 hour shifts on Friday and Satur

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread marshal
> "Paul" == Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> About the only good thing I can say about summer is I'm less Paul> likely to get poked in the eye by some tourist prick that Paul> doesn't realise it's considered rude to carry an open Paul> umbrella in a crowd. Get a

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 01:16:21AM -0700, ben wrote: > californian. i think that, in a previous post, where i used the phrase > 'dotcom okies,' i should have said dotcom migrants. perhaps i encouraged > interstate antipathy by that error. the point is that if i have a grievance No, it was menti

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread ben
On Saturday 01 June 2002 12:24 am, Shawn Dunn wrote: > On Fri, 31 May 2002 23:56:43 -0700 > > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > definitely cute; married to the bass player, in fact. they used to be > > > our personal house band in sf, before they all, almost as one, realized > > > they'

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 12:24:25AM -0700, Shawn Dunn wrote: > Try out Montana sometime, grew up there, and the Californians and > Easterners are doing their damnedest to remake in the image of the > places they left, and have been for round 20 years or so.. Heh, yeah. I just kinda wish th

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Shawn Dunn
On Fri, 31 May 2002 23:56:43 -0700 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > definitely cute; married to the bass player, in fact. they used to be our > > personal house band in sf, before they all, almost as one, realized they'd > > had it with high rent and dotcom okies. > > Them and every

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 11:56 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:39:07PM -0700, ben wrote: > > all of which goes to explain why you're on the list on a friday night, i > > guess. > > Well, even if I was doing what I want to be, sometimes the local furry > parties get a little slow f

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:39:07PM -0700, ben wrote: > all of which goes to explain why you're on the list on a friday night, i > guess. Well, even if I was doing what I want to be, sometimes the local furry parties get a little slow for ten minutes or so as people geek out, so I retreat back t

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 10:52 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:35:07PM -0700, Jeff wrote: > > > ...caught 23 roughly 14" long brook trout last Monday while everone > > > else was at work... > > > > you bastard :-) > > Not really. The tradeoff is doing 10 hour shifts on Friday a

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-06-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:35:07PM -0700, Jeff wrote: > > ...caught 23 roughly 14" long brook trout last Monday while everone > > else was at work... > > you bastard :-) Not really. The tradeoff is doing 10 hour shifts on Friday and Saturday night. Portland has lots of clubs, but none of the

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Jeff
Paul Johnson, 2002-May-31 20 > ...caught 23 roughly 14" long brook trout last Monday while everone > else was at work... you bastard :-) -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 10:41:37AM -0700, Walter Reed wrote: > Um, speak for yourself. Grilling is a year-round thing for some up us > Minnesotan's! Neither rain nor sleet nor snow shall keep us from our appointed > burger filpping... :-) Same here with Oregonians. Who needs a patio cover? Grab

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:52:42AM -0700, ben wrote: > yup. mono-linuxism. debian is the standard. unitedlinux is a business > venture, that's all. it's like comparing shaolin monks to tele-evangelists. Don't get me started on that Pat Robertson thief...trying to cheat the Red Cross out of money.

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 02:52 pm, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 31 May 2002 12:59 pm, ben wrote: > > On Friday 31 May 2002 12:29 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: > > > And what exactly is LSB? > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > http://people.debian.or

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Pollywog
On Fri, 31 May 2002 14:18:44 -0700 > >it was a mild rebuke. things can get quite heated on > this list sometimes. on behalf of people like me, don't let it put > you off. Yeah I felt like I was taken to the woodshed once or twice this week, but I was not put off by it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 12:59 pm, ben wrote: > On Friday 31 May 2002 12:29 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: > > And what exactly is LSB? > > [snip] > > > > > http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ > > > > http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ > > you see t

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Quenten Griffith
To true, I was misspoken I should not of said "people" like you because it was unfair of me to judge someone just by one post for that I apologize. ben wrote: > On Friday 31 May 2002 01:23 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: > > You know Ben its people like you that make posting anything to newsgroups >

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 01:23 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: > You know Ben its people like you that make posting anything to newsgroups > unenjoyable. I did go to those links and they don't really give a great > description exactly what it is. Did someone wake up on the wrong side of > the bed or are

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Rick Macdonald
Google is so amazing I hardly need to post to lists anymore. Sometimes I try it before looking at man pages. ;-) Entering "lsb" gives this as the first hit: Linux Standard Base Latest Happenings, About the LSB. Specification Proposals The latest draft of various specification proposals are now list

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Quenten Griffith
You know Ben its people like you that make posting anything to newsgroups unenjoyable. I did go to those links and they don't really give a great description exactly what it is. Did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed or are you always just completely rude to other people? ben wrote:

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 12:29 pm, Quenten Griffith wrote: > And what exactly is LSB? > [snip] > > > > > > http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ > > > http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ > > you see those linky type things? they're actually addresses you can go to on the web. you know what the

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-May-2002 Quenten Griffith wrote: > And what exactly is LSB? > Linux Standards Base. It is defining what a linux distribution has to have. see http://www.linuxbase.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Quenten Griffith
And what exactly is LSB? Grant Bowman wrote: > * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020531 10:15]: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or > > > roadway to conformance with the LSB? > > > > http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ > > http://people.debian

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Grant Bowman
* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020531 11:47]: > Grant Bowman wrote: > > * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020531 10:15]: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or > > > > roadway to conformance with the LSB? > > > > > > http://people.debian.org/~t

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Joey Hess
Ron Johnson wrote: > I also see a lot of " not part of debian base install. > No problem." To my untrained eye, that looks like a dodge No, it's a recognition of a crummy test suite. The lsb does not itself mention, eg, /etc/gettydefs -- which cannot be a part of debian since the gettyps package

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Joey Hess
Grant Bowman wrote: > * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020531 10:15]: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or > > > roadway to conformance with the LSB? > > > > http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ > > http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ > >

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread John Cichy
I'm sure that it won't make a whole lot of difference, but RedHat asked me to fill out a survey last week (I used to run all RedHat servers), I answered the survey and explained that I had converted all my servers (15) to debian because RPM just does not cut it. I would not expect RedHat to conv

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Grant Bowman
* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020531 10:15]: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or > > roadway to conformance with the LSB? > > http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ > http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ looked at ~taggart/lsb/ lately? It se

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Walter Reed
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 12:21:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Unfortunately, if I wanted a "hamburger" in Minnesota in February, > you wouldn't fire up your grill. Um, speak for yourself. Grilling is a year-round thing for some up us Minnesotan's! Neither rain nor sleet nor snow shall keep us fro

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 12:07, Joey Hess wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or > > roadway to conformance with the LSB? > > http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ > http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ Thanks. From http://people.debian.org/~

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 11:52, ben wrote: > On Friday 31 May 2002 09:01 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > > > Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? > > > > Why should there be? We are already the One True

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Joey Hess
Ron Johnson wrote: > Is there a url describing Debian 3.0's conformance with or > roadway to conformance with the LSB? http://people.debian.org/~taggart/lsb/ http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/lsbtest/ -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Grant Bowman
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020531 10:01]: > On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 11:26, Rick Macdonald wrote: > > Paul Johnson said: > > > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > > >> Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or > > >> otherwise? > > > > > > Why

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-May-2002 ben wrote: > On Friday 31 May 2002 09:01 am, Paul Johnson wrote: >> On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: >> > Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? >> >> Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distributio

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 11:26, Rick Macdonald wrote: > > Paul Johnson said: > > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > >> Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or > >> otherwise? > > > > Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribut

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 31-May-2002 Rick Macdonald wrote: > > Paul Johnson said: >> On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: >>> Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or >>> otherwise? >> >> Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. >> 8:o) > >

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread ben
On Friday 31 May 2002 09:01 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > > Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? > > Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. > 8:o) yup. mono-linuxism. de

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Rick Macdonald
Paul Johnson said: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: >> Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or >> otherwise? > > Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. > 8:o) I wrote to Caldera asking if UnitedLinux is Debian b

Re: Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 09:02:27AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: > Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? Why should there be? We are already the One True Linux Distribution. 8:o) -- Baloo pgpLNOmDUr8ri.pgp Description: PGP signature

Debian take on UnitedLinux?

2002-05-31 Thread Rick Macdonald
Has there been any Debian disscussion about this, official or otherwise? http://computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0%2C10801%2C71535%2C00.html?nlid=AM ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]