Re: Discussion with Pine developers & Debian Issues

1999-04-09 Thread Bradley Bell
As a student and an employee at the UW, it seems to me very unlikely that Pine will even be actively developed in the near future, considering the generally antagonistic attitude of the administrators (PHB's, so to speak) towards anything non-Microsoft, and more and more of the students, faculty, a

Re: Discussion with Pine developers & Debian Issues

1999-04-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 05:01:12PM -0700, Terry Gray wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Bruce Sass wrote: > > 2. The above requirement places Pine in non-free, rather than main, > > which means Pine could not be put onto Debian CD's. The only fix for > > this is a licensing change; for Pine to modify th

Re: Discussion with Pine developers & Debian Issues

1999-04-07 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Terry Gray wrote: > The possibility of UW releasing a version of Pine specifically for Debian > Linux is not out of the question, I think a possible solution for this "problem" is that UW itself distributes pine in .deb format. Would you willing to do this? > but it is also

Re: Discussion with Pine developers & Debian Issues

1999-04-07 Thread Terry Gray
Thanks Bruce; I appreciate your note. -teg On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Bruce Sass wrote: > Terry, > > Sorry if I misrepresented your position, > "broke off" does carry too much connotative baggage. > > > - Bruce > >

Re: Discussion with Pine developers & Debian Issues

1999-04-07 Thread Bruce Sass
Terry, Sorry if I misrepresented your position, "broke off" does carry too much connotative baggage. - Bruce -- On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Terry Gray wrote: > Bruce, > I would have been much happier with phrasing such as "has not yet > responded" rather than the much more pejorative "broke off > com

Re: Discussion with Pine developers & Debian Issues

1999-04-07 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Terry Gray wrote: [snip] > One difference between sharing patch files vs. redistributing the > resulting binaries is that the ultimate user or site administrator will > tend to be more conscious of what is "standard Pine" vs. "modified Pine" > if they go through the process of

Re: Discussion with Pine developers & Debian Issues

1999-04-07 Thread Terry Gray
Bruce, I would have been much happier with phrasing such as "has not yet responded" rather than the much more pejorative "broke off communications"... Sigh. Whatever. Brock, we actually had been having discussions on this topic, and were working on a reply to you. I apologize for the delay in r

Re: Discussion with Pine developers & Debian Issues

1999-04-06 Thread Bruce Sass
There are three issues with pine (in order of importance to Debian, imo): 1. Pine does not allow redistribution of modified binaries without explicit permission to do so. There are three fixes: Pine provides executables that do not require tweaking by Debian, then takes on the job of a Debian ma

Discussion with Pine developers & Debian Issues

1999-04-06 Thread Brock Rozen
** NOTE: The Pine developers wanted to give me a new message to quote/post publicly -- after waiting for a month for this message, and having requested it numerous times, I've decided to go through anyhow ** Hi, I've been in touch with the Pine developers at U Washington (U Dub) recently, and it