Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-25 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 25.01.20 05:51, Richard Owlett wrote: > My current project is dealing with oddly formatted data. Mostly just plain > ASCII. Progress on another aspect of my project has made this thread moot. For the thread, there's also: $ apt-cache search bvi bvi - binary file

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-25 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/24/2020 03:38 PM, Stefan Pietsch wrote: On 2020-01-22 13:12, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. Its tools are

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Stefan Pietsch
On 2020-01-22 13:12, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. Its tools are inconvenient. I need to:  1. Simultaneously display

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 24 Jan 2020 at 07:16:05 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/23/2020 06:51 PM, David Wright wrote: > > [snip] A quick grep on my system shows that I've > > never installed any package containing the string "ghex"... > ^^^ > > IOW if you've never used program

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 09:53:58AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: [...] > Emacs, which I gather you think is not a GUI application?) [...] Ah, it's *not*? Twenty-five years using that thing and I still didn't know. Bummer ;-P Cheers -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/24/2020 08:53 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: I posted in two fora (here and a LUG mailing list). *NOBODY* picked up on two key features I presumed obvious ;/ That's likely because noone cares about what you want. Bloody bastards! While I'm here, let me give another suggestion (besides the

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > I'm pretty sure this time it *really* doesn't do what you asked; but > OTOH, there's a good chance it might be useful for what you're doing. hexl-mode would do what he wants but there's no reason to learn Emacs just for that (there lots of other good reasons, though). -- John

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I posted in two fora (here and a LUG mailing list). > *NOBODY* picked up on two key features I presumed obvious ;/ That's likely because noone cares about what you want. Bloody bastards! While I'm here, let me give another suggestion (besides the use of Emacs, which I gather you think is not a

Re: Pedantic Comment (Was Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII)

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/24/2020 07:47 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard writes: I would prefer an actual GUI. But for a command line program it does very well. Text UI or interactive, not command line. ... As I've said elsewhere -- "If retirement not for learning - what use is it?" and thanks.

Pedantic Comment (Was Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII)

2020-01-24 Thread John Hasler
Richard writes: > I would prefer an actual GUI. But for a command line program it does > very well. Text UI or interactive, not command line. With a command line program you enter the program name, some options and some arguments at the shell prompt and hit enter. The program runs, sends its

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-01-24 at 08:02, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/23/2020 09:54 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2020-01-23 at 16:42, Joe wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 >>> Richard Owlett wrote: >>> 2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. I never even hinted at

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/23/2020 06:51 PM, David Wright wrote: [snip] A quick grep on my system shows that I've never installed any package containing the string "ghex"... ^^^ IOW if you've never used program XYZ it therefore is of no use. See also:

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/23/2020 09:54 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2020-01-23 at 16:42, Joe wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. I never even hinted at editing. I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/23/2020 03:42 PM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. I never even hinted at editing. I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pretty much of a monopoly of hex editors. As

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-01-23 at 16:42, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 > Richard Owlett wrote: > >>2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. >> I never even hinted at editing. > > I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is > pretty much of a monopoly of hex

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread ghe
On 1/23/20 3:10 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 09:42:11PM +, Joe wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 >> Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> >>>2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. >>> I never even hinted at editing. >>> >> >> I think you'll find that

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread David Wright
On Thu 23 Jan 2020 at 15:20:44 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/22/2020 07:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. > > I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing > > it in a useful fashion. > > > > Just downloaded ghex. I like the

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 09:42:11PM +, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. > > I never even hinted at editing. > > > > I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pretty >

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 09:42:11PM +, Joe wrote: > I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pretty > much of a monopoly of hex editors. I don't know any other kind of > program that can do it. Plenty of hex dumpers do it, including "hd", which is installed by default

Re: Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread Joe
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:20:44 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: >2. I repeatedly mentioned/implied *DISPLAY*. > I never even hinted at editing. > I think you'll find that displaying a file as hex and ASCII is pretty much of a monopoly of hex editors. I don't know any other kind of program

Clarification Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/22/2020 07:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. I posted in two fora (here and a LUG mailing list). *NOBODY*

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
Emacs comes with `hexl-mode` which provides some of that. The `nhexl-mode` (which you can subsequently install via `M-x package-list RET`) is an alternative which provides a few extra features. > I need to: > 1. Simultaneously display in _both_ HEX and ASCII format I'd expect they all do, tho

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread Linux-Fan
David Wright writes: On Wed 22 Jan 2020 at 16:46:19 (+0100), Linux-Fan wrote: > > My favorite hex editor is `dhex` (Debian package `dhex`). > From to the list of requirements, it does 4 of 6. I've used hexedit very occasionally. I installed dhex to try it out; unfortunately it refused at the

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread David Wright
On Wed 22 Jan 2020 at 16:46:19 (+0100), Linux-Fan wrote: > > My favorite hex editor is `dhex` (Debian package `dhex`). > From to the list of requirements, it does 4 of 6. I've used hexedit very occasionally. I installed dhex to try it out; unfortunately it refused at the first fence and merely

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII (Quoting error)

2020-01-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 04:49:38PM +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > > My favorite hex editor is `dhex` (Debian package `dhex`). > > > From to the list of requirements, it does 4 of 6. > > Excuse me, this is mis-quoted, it should of course have been this > (i.e. both lines attributed to me): > > > My

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII (Quoting error)

2020-01-22 Thread Linux-Fan
Linux-Fan writes: Bob Weber writes: On 1/22/20 8:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. Its tools are inconvenient.

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread Linux-Fan
Bob Weber writes: On 1/22/20 8:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. Its tools are inconvenient. Suggested tool(s) in

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread David Wright
On Wed 22 Jan 2020 at 07:12:23 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. > I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it > in a useful fashion. > > Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. > Its tools are inconvenient. > > I need

Re: Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread Bob Weber
On 1/22/20 8:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. Its tools are inconvenient. I need to:  1. Simultaneously display in

Displaying an arbitrary file in _both_ HEX and ASCII

2020-01-22 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm running Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop. I'm exploring a data file with the intention of eventually parsing it in a useful fashion. Just downloaded ghex. I like the display format. Its tools are inconvenient. I need to: 1. Simultaneously display in _both_ HEX and ASCII format 2. Know the