Re: Downloading and naming

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016, at 18:33, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 02/08/2016 à 02:28, Stephen Powell a écrit : >> My original point remains. If one's computer has less than 4 GiB of >> memory installed, and the processor does not support the XD/NX bit, then >> running a 32-bit PAE-enabled kernel does

Re: Downloading and naming

Le 02/08/2016 à 02:28, Stephen Powell a écrit : On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, at 19:30, Pascal Hambourg wrote: This is really surprising because, according to , Pentium M models which support PAE also support the NX bit. Actually, PAE support was added just to

Re: Downloading and naming

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, at 19:30, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 01/08/2016 à 04:02, Stephen Powell a écrit : >> >> To the best of my knowledge, there are no 32-bit-only processors which >> support the NX bit. A 32-bit PAE-enabled kernel can only use NX if it >> is running on a 64-bit-capable

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Le 01/08/2016 à 04:02, Stephen Powell a écrit : On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, at 19:07, Pascal Hambourg wrote: PAE allows to use the NX/XD bit on CPU which support it to prevent execution of data memory areas. To the best of my knowledge, there are no 32-bit-only processors which support the NX bit.

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On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, at 19:07, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 01/08/2016 à 00:00, Stephen Powell a écrit : >> one's processor supports PAE, but the motherboard only supports a maximum of >> 2 GiB of RAM, what does a PAE kernel buy one? Nothing, as far as I can see. > > PAE allows to use the NX/XD

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Le 01/08/2016 à 00:00, Stephen Powell a écrit : one's processor supports PAE, but the motherboard only supports a maximum of 2 GiB of RAM, what does a PAE kernel buy one? Nothing, as far as I can see. PAE allows to use the NX/XD bit on CPU which support it to prevent execution of data memory

Re: Downloading and naming

On Sunday 31 July 2016 23:00:24 Stephen Powell wrote: > If you like Ubuntu better than Debian, fine.  Use Ubuntu.  Nobody's > stopping you.  But don't come over here and try to tell us that we should > be doing things the way Ubuntu does.  We're different for a reason.  I'm > not saying there

Re: Downloading and naming

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, at 03:46, Brian Wengel wrote: > > Dear Debian community > > Maybe it’s just me, but as a rather new-comer to the Debian world a few > things puzzles me. > > 1: Going to the download section is like being taken 15 years back. Isn’t > it time to take the step to move away

Re: Downloading and naming

On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 10:59:44 +0200 "Brian Wengel" wrote: > I guess I wasn't cleardon't see my post as a wish or argument for > larger image sizes or the like. Actually the smaller the better, I > agree. I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase > CD/DVD from

Re: Downloading and naming

On 07/31/2016 04:59 AM, Brian Wengel wrote: I guess I wasn't cleardon't see my post as a wish or argument for larger image sizes or the like. Actually the smaller the better, I agree. I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from their brian, and only focus on the

Re: Downloading and naming

On 2016-07-31 08:32, Andre Majorel wrote: On 2016-07-31 10:59 +0200, Brian Wengel wrote: I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from their brian, and only focus on the technologies we use today and have used for many years. My main computer, the one on which I'm

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On 7/31/16, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Brian Wengel wrote: >> Are we seriously discussing floppy images? :-P > > As said, small is beautiful. Oh, oh, ohh.. I went back to the thread to find a place for my last thought. THIS is the place. I debootstrap my Debian in. On

Re: Downloading and naming

On Sun 31 Jul 2016 at 10:59:44 (+0200), Brian Wengel wrote: > I guess I wasn't cleardon't see my post as a wish or argument for larger > image sizes or the like. > Actually the smaller the better, I agree. > I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from their >

Re: Downloading and naming

Le 31/07/2016 à 15:32, Andre Majorel a écrit : > On 2016-07-31 10:59 +0200, Brian Wengel wrote: > >> I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase >> CD/DVD from their brian, and only focus on the technologies we >> use today and have used for many years. > My main computer, the one

Re: Downloading and naming

On 2016-07-31 10:59 +0200, Brian Wengel wrote: > I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase > CD/DVD from their brian, and only focus on the technologies we > use today and have used for many years. My main computer, the one on which I'm writing this, cannot boot off USB.

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On 7/31/16, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 31 July 2016 09:59:44 Brian Wengel wrote: >> I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from >> their brian, and only focus on the technologies we use today and have >> used >> for many years. > > I'm glad

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On Sunday, July 31, 2016 04:14:37 AM Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 at 08:49, Brian Wengel wrote: ... > > I’m not saying the images should not be DVD compatible, but make the USB > > the primary media in guides/naming etc….and perhaps make a link at the > >

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On Sunday 31 July 2016 09:59:44 Brian Wengel wrote: > I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from > their brian, and only focus on the technologies we use today and have used > for many years. I'm glad that you are rich and live in a rich country. Many aren't and

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On Sunday 31 July 2016 08:46:36 Brian Wengel wrote: > Dear Debian community > > Maybe it’s just me, but as a rather new-comer to the Debian world a few > things puzzles me. > > 1: Going to the download section is like being taken 15 years back. Isn’t > it time to take the step to move away from

Re: Downloading and naming

Hi, Brian Wengel wrote: > Are we seriously discussing floppy images? :-P As said, small is beautiful. > I think it was a wrong place to target my post, > as Mark pointed out debian-cd mailing list would be my guess. Nevertheless, it's much of a user related topic, too. > The debian

RE: Downloading and naming

@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Downloading and naming Hi, Brian Wengel wrote: > I know the CD/DVD images also work on USB but maybe it’s time to > actually stop calling it CD/DVD images? "CD/DVD/BD/WholeDisk" images ? The feature to boot from USB stick is not bound to USB but rather to

Re: Downloading and naming

Hi, Brian Wengel wrote: > I know the CD/DVD images also work on USB but maybe it’s time to actually > stop calling it CD/DVD images? "CD/DVD/BD/WholeDisk" images ? The feature to boot from USB stick is not bound to USB but rather to the perception of the booting firmware and kernel, that the

Re: Downloading and naming

On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 at 08:49, Brian Wengel wrote: > Dear Debian community > > Maybe it’s just me, but as a rather new-comer to the Debian world a few > things puzzles me. > > 1: Going to the download section is like being taken 15 years back. Isn’t > it time to take the step

Downloading and naming

Dear Debian community Maybe it’s just me, but as a rather new-comer to the Debian world a few things puzzles me. 1: Going to the download section is like being taken 15 years back. Isn’t it time to take the step to move away from the CD/DVD media and move into the USB Flash drive arena? I know