> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 07:40, Weaver wrote:
>> Yes, it raises the point that some manufacturers achieve their hardware
>> height and profile, not from the keyboard base, but from the different
>> heights of keys on the different rows of a Qwerty.
>>
>
> My current keyboard is built like that,
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 07:40, Weaver wrote:
> Yes, it raises the point that some manufacturers achieve their hardware
> height and profile, not from the keyboard base, but from the different
> heights of keys on the different rows of a Qwerty.
>
My current keyboard is built like that, each row o
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 00:47, Dan Serban wrote:
> If not using your own hardware, would that not be a detriment
> after getting used to the MS Natural keyboard?
>
Not at all. The R in RSI is "repetitive", and the key to healing is to
reduce repetitive tasks. So regularly switching keyboards help
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:46:47 -0800
> "Weaver" wrote:
>> >From investigations so far.
>> Advice from Daskeyboards support:
>>
>> "Thanks for your interest in Das Keyboard!
>>
>> The physical key caps cannot be rearranged into the Dvorak layout
>> because
>> each row has a different height and c
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:46:47 -0800
"Weaver" wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200
> > Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote:
> >> > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> >> >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existin
* Weaver [120112 02:56]:
> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
> keyboard into the system.
>
> Who mak
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:07:44 +
Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 10 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
> > > That site is down at present.
> > >
> > > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> > > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> > > QW
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:15:19 +0100
Andreas Weber wrote:
> > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> > QWERTY keyboard?
>
> No, it's not. Only if you always work on your own hardware. But as s
On 10 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
> > That site is down at present.
> >
> > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> > QWERTY keyboard?
> >
> >
>
> Well, I hope the site has become available
> My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> QWERTY keyboard?
No, it's not. Only if you always work on your own hardware. But as soon
as you have to touch different machines ... QWERT is everywhere
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote:
>> > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
>> >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing
>> keyboard
>From investigations so far.
Advice from Daskeyboard
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote:
> > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
> >
> > How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM key
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:35:52 +
Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
> > "Weaver" wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all.
> > > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
> > > greater typing speed potential and lowr inc
> Hi Weaver,
>
> If you are curious about keyboard layouts then you might really enjoy
> Dvorak. I have used Dvorak for about 8 years. It takes a while to get
> rolling, but it has definitely been worth it. I feel like typing is a
> much smoother activity now, and touch typing is easier.
>
> When
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 19:35, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> QWERTY keyboard?
>
Probably not. Some people cite speed, others comfort as a reason. I'll
tell you
Hi Weaver,
If you are curious about keyboard layouts then you might really enjoy
Dvorak. I have used Dvorak for about 8 years. It takes a while to get
rolling, but it has definitely been worth it. I feel like typing is a
much smoother activity now, and touch typing is easier.
When I started out,
> On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
>> "Weaver" wrote:
>>
>> > Hello all.
>> > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
>> greater
>> > typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
>> > moving from two finger
On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
> "Weaver" wrote:
>
> > Hello all.
> > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> > typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> > moving from two finger typing with
--- On Sun, 1/7/12, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > I like the app, I can certainly see improvement in my case.
> > $ aptitude show klavaro
> > Package: klavaro
> > Version: 1.9.3-1
> It's a shame this doesn't support "USA Cherokee" layout.
It supports custom layouts, select "Custom" as Keyboard, you
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 14:32, Camaleón wrote:
> Mmm, are there different switches types for the same keyboard?
>
> (...)
>
> Wow, Internet says there are many colored pieces behaving differently!
> Black, brown, white, clear, blue and red (it seems that red switches were
> manufactured for the Asi
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:12:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:52, Camaleón wrote:
>> I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold
>> contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if
>> Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?
>>
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:52, Camaleón wrote:
> I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold
> contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if
> Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?
>
If you mean G80-3000 then that is the keyboard that Das Keyboard is
based on. D
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
>> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
>
> How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you
> could rearrange the keys, but I do not know
On Sat, 2012-01-07 at 23:22 -0800, Weaver wrote:
> > It's a shame this doesn't support "USA Cherokee" layout.
> >
> When I was reading their site yesterday, they made a point of feedback
> being appreciated and wanting to implement new formats, so an approach in
> that direction could be well in o
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:38:00 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> Piano players do this all the time.
off topic
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On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:29:07 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 11:22:09PM +, Lisi wrote:
> > On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> > > Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments,
> >
> > What about incompetent musicians?
>
> Off-topi
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 19:39, Weaver wrote:
> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
> keyboard into the s
> On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 21:57 -0800, T Elcor wrote:
>> --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wrote:
>>
>> > You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
>> > pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your
>> sound
>> > card for those typing sessions.
>>
>> I'd
On 01/07/2012 08:27 PM, green wrote:
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:38 -0600:
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote:
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
keys to begin with.
I type fairl
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:38 -0600:
> On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote:
> > Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
> > > Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
> > > keys to begin with.
> >
> > I type fairly well with the D
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote:
> Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
> > Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
> > keys to begin with.
>
> I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the keys to be properly
> labeled.
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600:
> Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the
> keys to begin with.
I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the keys to be properly
labeled. Why? Because I occasionally hit a key or shortcut with one hand
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 11:22:09PM +, Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> > Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments,
>
> What about incompetent musicians?
Off-topic.
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On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote:
> Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments,
What about incompetent musicians?
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On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:44:22PM +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
> I guess I wasn't clear enough. This should have been:
> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
> and changing the layout at the same time (I'm aware it won't be 100%)?
> This way one can try it out withou
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 21:57 -0800, T Elcor wrote:
> --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wrote:
>
> > You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
> > pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
> > card for those typing sessions.
>
> I'd suggest kl
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:26:31 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 10:52:53AM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
>> I'm sure memorizing the keys or using a blank keyboard is an easy task
>> for professional typists :-)
>
> I disagree, you don't have to be a professional typist to memorise the
> k
h your suggestion of Cherry keyboards, I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold
> contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if
> Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?
Also using Cherry both at work and home.
Not sure but what you can do is to get Model M, Cherry or
t replace it for any other but I don't know if
Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-?
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--- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wrote:
> You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
> pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
> card for those typing sessions.
I'd suggest klavaro application to improve one's typing skills, it supports
s
> You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
> pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
> card for those typing sessions. Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key
> to use. This for sighted people just enables another learning channel
You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
card for those typing sessions. Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key
to use. This for sighted people just enables another learning channel.On
F
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
> "Weaver" wrote:
>
>> Hello all.
>> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
>> greater
>> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
>> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
>
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
>> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
>> > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
>>
>> How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which
>> you
>> could rearrange the ke
of marker, paint, and stickers last long enough.
>
> There are not many Dvorak keyboards available, but here some I have found
> (I
> have used none of these):
> http://typematrix.com
> http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/
> http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak/p
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
>>> Hello all.
>>> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
>>> greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even
>>> delayed moving fr
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
"Weaver" wrote:
> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
> keyboard int
On Friday 06 January 2012 20:07:57 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> Model M keyboards as these are the ones you referring to, originally made
> by IBM, are still widely available either from your local second hand
> computer shop or from eBay or you can still buy them new from Unicomp.
Thanks. Worth knowing!
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
>
> How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you
> could rearrange the keys, but I
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you
could rearrange the keys, but I do not know of any modern equivalent.
Lisi
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There are not many Dvorak keyboards available, but here some I have found (I
have used none of these):
http://typematrix.com
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/
http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak/products/keyboards-layouts-dvorak
http://www.hooleon.com/collec
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:37:16PM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
> That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the one
> printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap in
> your head and type without looking at the keyboard.
That's why I suggested a blank as it
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:32:06PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> > What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?
>
> Because you wouldn't know where the letters are? I think that Weaver means a
> physical keyboard, not the c
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
>> Hello all.
>> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
>> greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even
>> delayed moving from two fi
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?
Because you wouldn't know where the letters are? I think that Weaver means a
physical keyboard, not the choice of layout in your OS.
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On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
> keyboard i
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