Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-30 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:12:25AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [... > It's a default in the most common packaging tool that saves work for > many maintainers (they don't need to explicitly mark files under /etc as > conffiles). > > To me it's quite clear that conffiles are typically in /etc

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 29 ian 20, 08:41:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 08:48:56AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > It seems to me you are conflating dpkg conffiles[1] with files in /etc. > > > > [1] https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-conffiles.html > > Yep, but this [2]

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 08:48:56AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 28 ian 20, 09:59:44, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 07:54:47PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > > > As that package apparently is required for the Mate desktop, it's > > > likely that to resolve this

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 28 ian 20, 09:59:44, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 07:54:47PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > As that package apparently is required for the Mate desktop, it's > > likely that to resolve this that you'll need to comment the lines in > > that file as root and note

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 9:33 AM Curt wrote:... ... Okay, I've taken Curt's and Greg's suggestions together: 1. I had to install the dconf-editor package. I was able to use the dconf editor to turn off the xrdb plugin. I then logged off and logged back in. Highlighting is working. Note: The

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-28, Tom Browder wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 07:36 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 04:11:33PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: >> > when highlighting disappears, run "xrdb /dev/null" and restart emacs >> >> So, wait. You're saying that it *works for a little while*

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 07:36 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 04:11:33PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > when highlighting disappears, run "xrdb /dev/null" and restart emacs > > So, wait. You're saying that it *works for a little while* after > you log in, and then at some point

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 07:26 Curt wrote: ... > Have you tried my suggestion of yesterday, a method which worked for the > man in the thread linked at the bottom of this post? You might have to > be root, and you must have the dconf-editor installed. Open that gui > app, search for the ... No,

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 04:11:33PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > when highlighting disappears, run "xrdb /dev/null" and restart emacs So, wait. You're saying that it *works for a little while* after you log in, and then at some point later, it *stops working*? If that's actually the case, then

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-28, Tom Browder wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 03:09 wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 07:57:49PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: >> > Or it may be as easy as going into the Mate Settings Daemon application >> > (if it has a GUI) and disabling the xrdg plugin. > I tried to find

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 05:54:46AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 03:09 wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 07:57:49PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > Or it may be as easy as going into the Mate Settings Daemon application > > > (if it has a GUI) and disabling the xrdg

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 03:09 wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 07:57:49PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Or it may be as easy as going into the Mate Settings Daemon application > > (if it has a GUI) and disabling the xrdg plugin. I tried to find that and couldn't. I would like to be able to

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 07:57:49PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Or it may be as easy as going into the Mate Settings Daemon application > (if it has a GUI) and disabling the xrdg plugin. By all means, do -- and tell us whether it worked (the link I provided was a bit discouraging: so /if/ that

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-28 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 07:54:47PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2020 27 Jan 16:12 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > > Gang, I've tried various combinations of: > > > > 1. removing/installing the /etc/xrdb/*.ad files > > I see that the mate-settings-daemon package has the /etc/xrdb/Emacs.ad >

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
Or it may be as easy as going into the Mate Settings Daemon application (if it has a GUI) and disabling the xrdg plugin. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects:

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2020 27 Jan 16:12 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > Gang, I've tried various combinations of: > > 1. removing/installing the /etc/xrdb/*.ad files I see that the mate-settings-daemon package has the /etc/xrdb/Emacs.ad file. As that package apparently is required for the Mate desktop, it's

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 2:39 AM wrote: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 08:04:29PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 2:17 AM wrote: ... > > Have you had a look in /etc/X11/Xresources? Yes, contents: $ cat /etc/X11/Xresources/x11-common ! $Id$ ! load color-specific resources for

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:00 PM Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2020 27 Jan 10:11 -0600, Curt wrote: > > I missed that point, yet I'm still left to wonder whether the mate > > settings daemon xrdb plugins referenced above (if it is indeed running Gang, I've tried various combinations of: 1.

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2020 27 Jan 10:11 -0600, Curt wrote: > I missed that point, yet I'm still left to wonder whether the mate > settings daemon xrdb plugins referenced above (if it is indeed running > on the OP's machine as part of the Mate kitchen sink) might be > responsible for the rather copious Emacs 'xdrb

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:11 AM Curt wrote: > On 2020-01-27, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 27 Jan 2020 at 14:34:14 (-), Curt wrote: > >> On 2020-01-27, Nate Bargmann wrote: ... A few points ref my problem: 1. I have to admit I've always been confused by the menuing inside emacs to

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-27, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 27 Jan 2020 at 14:34:14 (-), Curt wrote: >> On 2020-01-27, Nate Bargmann wrote: >> > >> > At this point, I think you need to find any file on your system that has >> > the Emacs X resources that xrdb showed and comment them out. >> > >> >> As

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread David Wright
On Mon 27 Jan 2020 at 14:34:14 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2020-01-27, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > > At this point, I think you need to find any file on your system that has > > the Emacs X resources that xrdb showed and comment them out. > > > > As perhaps an unhelpful and not necessarily related

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread David Wright
On Mon 27 Jan 2020 at 08:23:00 (-0600), Tom Browder wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 07:49 Nate Bargmann wrote: > ... > > > At this point, I think you need to find any file on your system that has > > the Emacs X resources that xrdb showed and comment them out. You showed us your Xresources,

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-27, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > At this point, I think you need to find any file on your system that has > the Emacs X resources that xrdb showed and comment them out. > As perhaps an unhelpful and not necessarily related data point, there exists a bug report concerning Xresources and

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 07:49 Nate Bargmann wrote: ... > At this point, I think you need to find any file on your system that has > the Emacs X resources that xrdb showed and comment them out. ... Good suggestion, Nate. And thanks for your and the other folks' patience. -Tom

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2020 27 Jan 07:03 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > Would it help if I post my entire /etc/X11 directory and init.el on my > github account? At this point probably not. If there was nothing referencing Emacs in /etc/X11/app-defaults then wherever those resources are being set must be in your home

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 05:37 Tom Browder wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 5:00 AM Nate Bargmann wrote: > > OP, Tom, you might try: > > > > grep -i "Emacs" /etc/X11/app-defaults/* > Would it help if I post my entire /etc/X11 directory and init.el on my github account? BTW, I do not use the

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 5:00 AM Nate Bargmann wrote: > OP, Tom, you might try: > > grep -i "Emacs" /etc/X11/app-defaults/* Nothing on mine, either, Nate. Thanks. -Tom

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2020 27 Jan 02:40 -0600, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 08:04:29PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > Emacs*Background:#cecece > > Emacs*Dialog*background:#cecece > > Emacs*Dialog*foreground:#3c3c3c > > Emacs*Foreground:#3c3c3c > > Emacs*XlwScrollBar.Background:

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2020 26 Jan 20:14 -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 6:01 AM Nate Bargmann wrote: > > What do you get if there is no ~/.emacs or ~/.emacs.d/init.el file? > > Still no highlighting without the xrdb incantation. Sorry, I've never had to do anything like that, so I'm of no

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread 황병희
Tom Browder writes: > [...] > Thanks, but I like a white os very light background. Indeed, real hacker like light and white colors, i think. Sincerely, StarWars fan Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-27 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 08:04:29PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 2:17 AM wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 04:10:37PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: [...] > > > $ xrdb /dev/null > > > > Yikes. Like hitting your TV set with a wrench ;-) [...] > Maybe, but I felt like I had

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-26 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 6:01 AM Nate Bargmann wrote: > What do you get if there is no ~/.emacs or ~/.emacs.d/init.el file? Still no highlighting without the xrdb incantation. > Are you using the Emacs GTK GUI or running in a terminal? I'm using: emacs-gtk - GNU Emacs editor (with GTK+ GUI

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-26 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 5:01 AM Curt wrote: ... > I guess we'll never know why unless you show us the output of > > xrdb -query Sorry, to be so late, but I just did. -Thanks. -Tom

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-26 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 5:16 PM Mike Kupfer wrote: > Curt wrote: > I had something similar to this happen to me with Emacs 24. I ended up > adding an override to my ~/.emacs to set the highlighting color. > > Tom, which Emacs package are you using? The (default) GTK-based build > can behave

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-26 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 2:17 AM wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 04:10:37PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > I have a new laptop running Buster (with the MATE desktop) and noticed my > > Emacs highlighted text was not showing any differently than non-highlighted > > text. After some conversation on

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-26 Thread Mike Kupfer
Curt wrote: > I heard about one fellow whose window background color was strangely > similar to his emacs highlighting color, and this explained why his > highlighting efforts were suboptimal and even quite close to being > totally invisible. I had something similar to this happen to me with

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-25 Thread Nate Bargmann
What do you get if there is no ~/.emacs or ~/.emacs.d/init.el file? Are you using the Emacs GTK GUI or running in a terminal? As I like my terminal sessions to be gray text on a black (or nearly black) background (the reason is historical from the days before anti-aliased fonts were well

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-25 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-24, Tom Browder wrote: > > I have a new laptop running Buster (with the MATE desktop) and noticed my > Emacs highlighted text was not showing any differently than non-highlighted > text. After some conversation on the #emacs IRC channel, it was suggested I > run this in a terminal

Re: Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-25 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 04:10:37PM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > I have a new laptop running Buster (with the MATE desktop) and noticed my > Emacs highlighted text was not showing any differently than non-highlighted > text. After some conversation on the #emacs IRC channel, it was suggested I > run

Emacs and loss of highlighting: problem semi-solved (Buster MATE)

2020-01-24 Thread Tom Browder
I have a new laptop running Buster (with the MATE desktop) and noticed my Emacs highlighted text was not showing any differently than non-highlighted text. After some conversation on the #emacs IRC channel, it was suggested I run this in a terminal window and restart Emacs: $ xrdb /dev/null Lo