PGP & Protonmail (Was: Encrypted e-mails?)

2018-09-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, pjw wrote: Since July ProtonMail is now fully interoperable with other PGP mail clients. Now that is a nice piece of news. -- Fraught with portent

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-10 Thread pjw
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, at 7:44 AM, Torben Schou Jensen wrote: > With https://protonmail.com/ we have webmail with focus on encrypted > e-mails, but it require your friends also have account there to make full > use of it. Since July ProtonMail is now fully interoperable with other

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-08 Thread mick crane
On 2018-09-08 14:15, Martin Smith wrote: On 07/09/2018 20:54, Dan Purgert wrote: wrote: On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 09:53:08AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 03:47:33PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Darn. I was already planning to only send encrypted messages to this list

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-08 Thread Martin Smith
On 07/09/2018 20:54, Dan Purgert wrote: wrote: On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 09:53:08AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 03:47:33PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Darn. I was already planning to only send encrypted messages to this list :~0 (SCNR) on'tday endsay encryptedway

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 September 2018 12:20:49 Default User wrote: > I am not suggesting that this thread be "suppressed", but perhaps it > should be marked [OT]? > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM John Hasler wrote: > > Gene writes: > > > As the situation now stands, an encrypted email is a bright red

Re: [OT] Was: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Dan Purgert
John Hasler wrote: > Dan writes: >> For even more fun, ROT13! > > ROT26 is obviously twice as good. For the extremely, secutity-conscious, ROT39. Now, ROT52 on the other hand is just silly :). -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA

[OT] Was: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread John Hasler
Dan writes: > For even more fun, ROT13! ROT26 is obviously twice as good. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Dan Purgert
wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 09:53:08AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 03:47:33PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> > Darn. I was already planning to only send encrypted messages to this >> > list :~0 >> > >> > (SCNR) >> >> on'tday endsay encryptedway ailmay otay

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Default User
I am not suggesting that this thread be "suppressed", but perhaps it should be marked [OT]? On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > As the situation now stands, an encrypted email is a bright red flag > > in front of the bull in a china shop, so they will expend a

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > As the situation now stands, an encrypted email is a bright red flag > in front of the bull in a china shop, so they will expend a lot of cpu > cycles to read it because if it didn't contain sensitive data, it > wouldn't be encrypted in the first place. While I find the behavior of

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 September 2018 11:07:01 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 03:59:01PM +0200, Torben Schou Jensen wrote: > > [...] > > > Problem is many friends use public free e-mail solutions, without > > OpenPGP, and they also not give a damn about security. > > We had a related

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 September 2018 09:18:59 Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 03:44:22PM +0200, Torben Schou Jensen wrote: > > We have smartphones with software from Apple and Google, but we are > > unsure if they look in our data. > > Don't be silly. Of course they do. > > > But it is

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 03:59:01PM +0200, Torben Schou Jensen wrote: [...] > Problem is many friends use public free e-mail solutions, without OpenPGP, > and they also not give a damn about security. We had a related thread here about "good" mail

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread John Hasler
Torben writes: > Problem is many friends use public free e-mail solutions, without > OpenPGP, and they also not give a damn about security. Worse, they do so in the apparent belief that they do have secrecy and become enraged and indignant when they find out that they don't. But then they just

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 09:53:08AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 03:47:33PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Darn. I was already planning to only send encrypted messages to this > > list :~0 > > > > (SCNR) > > on'tday

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Torben Schou Jensen
> Dave Sherohman wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 03:44:22PM +0200, Torben Schou Jensen wrote: >>> So why not use OpenPGP to encrypt e-mails, it is free, I am trying to >>> find out how to? >> Can't speak for anyone else, but... >> I don't give a damn. >> I'm sending this message to a public

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 03:47:33PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Darn. I was already planning to only send encrypted messages to this > list :~0 > > (SCNR) on'tday endsay encryptedway ailmay otay ublicpay istslay.

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 01:36:31PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Dave Sherohman wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 03:44:22PM +0200, Torben Schou Jensen wrote: > >> So why not use OpenPGP to encrypt

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 03:44:22PM +0200, Torben Schou Jensen wrote: >> So why not use OpenPGP to encrypt e-mails, it is free, I am trying to >> find out how to? > > Can't speak for anyone else, but... > > I don't give a

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-07 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 03:44:22PM +0200, Torben Schou Jensen wrote: > We have smartphones with software from Apple and Google, but we are unsure > if they look in our data. Don't be silly. Of course they do. > But it is still very common to send unencrypted e-mails, open post cards. > So why

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-06 Thread John Hasler
Torben Schou Jensen writes: > A week ago I got mail from google, that they now automatic add > appointments from my google e-mail to my google calendar. I had then > received copy of a hotel reservation from a friend, and suddenly > google added this as my hotel reservation. So google in fact

Re: Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-06 Thread Dan Purgert
own private web > server. > A plugin named G/PGP Encryption is available, but not updated since 2007. > Written in PHP, interfacing with GnuPG, I found that it not work on Debian > Stable Linux and PHP 7.0. > > But after hunting bugs, I have been able to fix it to send encrypted > e-mail

Encrypted e-mails?

2018-09-06 Thread Torben Schou Jensen
is available, but not updated since 2007. Written in PHP, interfacing with GnuPG, I found that it not work on Debian Stable Linux and PHP 7.0. But after hunting bugs, I have been able to fix it to send encrypted e-mails between users within my server, not perfect, but working. Now thinking about