Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 09:42:33AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > If a user will open a random zip file they received in their email and run > its contents, they will certainly enter their root password when prompted > to do so. Again, it's a correctable

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-29 Thread Pedro M.
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Scarletdown: How's about something like this? Dear Linux user, Please find the NEW LINUX Virus program called HONOR. Since this Scenario 1: "Hey Boss; the mailserver's hosed again." "How did that happen?" "Someone checked their mail." Scenario 2: "Hey Boss; th

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-29 Thread Adam Aube
On Thursday 29 January 2004 12:47 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 08:50:38PM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > > Migrating them to a new OS won't help - only education will. > > No, but it'll likely go a long way in limiting damage if they're not > root. It may limit the damage - but it

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 08:50:38PM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > Migrating them to a new OS won't help - only education will. No, but it'll likely go a long way in limiting damage if they're not root. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:04:52AM +1030, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And the more that Linux systems succumb to the usability vs security > (eg by having passwordless root logins or everyone running about as > admin) then we'll become the targets for t

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 04:34:35PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: When the signal to noise ratio starts to approach 1:1 it's time to take steps. YOU already have the power. http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt 1: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} dpkg -l clamav\* Desired=Unknown/Install/

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 02:20:39AM +0100, Brian Schmidt wrote: > From what I understand then the mailing list checks the sender address, > to see if it is subscribed to the mailinglist. The debian lists are open, not closed. > A thing I would love t

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 07:48:55PM -0500, Rajesh Menon wrote: > i don;t know much about setting up mailing-lists, but can;t it be setup > to allow mails ONLY from REGISTERED users? Who is registered? A large portion of the readership isn't subscribe

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-01-29, s. keeling penned: > > Why is debian-* the place to go to complain about Windows viruses?!? > I choose Linux & Debian to avoid Windows and all its cracks and > deficiencies. Others (perhaps including you?) use Linux/Debian in a > pointless attempt to support/protect an unusable Wind

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 04:34:35PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > When the signal to noise ratio starts to approach 1:1 > it's time to take steps. YOU already have the power. http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAI

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:51:52AM +1100, Ian Perry wrote: > Firstly... my apologies to the list. > > Well, thank you for your abrupt reply and for being so damn rude. > > If you can't be civil, then please in future don't bother responding. Apply c

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Scarletdown: > > How's about something like this? > > Dear Linux user, > > Please find the NEW LINUX Virus program called HONOR. Since this Scenario 1: "Hey Boss; the mailserver's hosed again." "How did that happen?" "Someone checked their mail." Scenario 2: "Hey Boss; the mai

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Adam Aube
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 07:44 pm, s. keeling wrote: > Does Windows get cracked more often because there's more Windows? No, > it's because Windows is more crackable I also think the "Windows is hacked more because it's more popular" argument is bogus. The point I like to use is this: IIS fl

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Brian Schmidt
Rajesh Menon wrote: and as you notice, the sender names are not "rajesh menon", or "brian schmidt", or anyone on the list, but just a random name. No, but as you notice, the mail address being used is [EMAIL PROTECTED], even if I put up another name as a front for that address, the address will

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Rajesh Menon
Brian Schmidt wrote: Rajesh Menon wrote: i don;t know much about setting up mailing-lists, but can;t it be setup to allow mails ONLY from REGISTERED users? From what I understand then the mailing list checks the sender address, to see if it is subscribed to the mailinglist. Unfortunately it's

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Rajesh Menon
Brian Schmidt wrote: Rajesh Menon wrote: i don;t know much about setting up mailing-lists, but can;t it be setup to allow mails ONLY from REGISTERED users? From what I understand then the mailing list checks the sender address, to see if it is subscribed to the mailinglist. Unfortunately it's

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Brian Schmidt
Rajesh Menon wrote: i don;t know much about setting up mailing-lists, but can;t it be setup to allow mails ONLY from REGISTERED users? From what I understand then the mailing list checks the sender address, to see if it is subscribed to the mailinglist. Unfortunately it's easy for me to simply c

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Scarletdown
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ..the more Linux systems, or the more open source systems, out there the more likely that people will be interested in actually cracking Others have already debunked that theory. Does Windows get cracked more often because there's more Windows?

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Rajesh Menon
i don;t know much about setting up mailing-lists, but can;t it be setup to allow mails ONLY from REGISTERED users? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Ian Perry
27;t protect windows with windows. You have to use something decent. -Original Message- From: s. keeling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2004 11:20 AM To: Debian User Subject: Re: FW: registration confirmation... Incoming from Ian Perry: > Firstly... my apologies

Re: If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > ..the more Linux systems, or the more open source systems, out there > the more likely that people will be interested in actually cracking Others have already debunked that theory. Does Windows get cracked more often because there's more Windows? No, it's be

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
s. keeling wrote: Why is debian-* the place to go to complain about Windows viruses?!? I choose Linux & Debian to avoid Windows and all its cracks and deficiencies. I dunno. I'd hazard a guess the fact that the list mantainers idiotic position of open acceptance every freakin' time we have a

If Linux Becomes More Prevalent -> was Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread
Hi There, > Why is debian-* the place to go to complain about Windows viruses?!? I don't think I know (and I don't want to hazard a guess). > I choose Linux & Debian to avoid Windows and all its cracks and > deficiencies. Others (perhaps including you?) use Linux/Debian in a > pointless attemp

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ian Perry: > Firstly... my apologies to the list. > > Well, thank you for your abrupt reply and for being so damn rude. > > If you can't be civil, then please in future don't bother responding. > > A simple "Yes, its just spam would have sufficed" thank you. I'll agree, I was abru

RE: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Ian Perry
: s. keeling [mailto:] Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2004 9:56 AM To: Debian Users Subject: Re: FW: registration confirmation... Incoming from Ian Perry: > > Does anyone know what this is ? > > Or is it just elaborate spam ? > > Or am I now on yet ANOTHER spam list ? FOR C

Re: FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Ian Perry: > > Does anyone know what this is ? > > Or is it just elaborate spam ? > > Or am I now on yet ANOTHER spam list ? FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, THINK! The From: says lists.debian.org. You're subscribed to some list at lists.debian.org, somebody sent crap to the list, and lists

FW: registration confirmation...

2004-01-28 Thread Ian Perry
Does anyone know what this is ? Or is it just elaborate spam ? Or am I now on yet ANOTHER spam list ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2004 5:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: registration confirmation Thanks for you