Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-30 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 05:20:06PM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: Kevin Ross wrote: snipped If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and configure it to autologin, and add startx to your

Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Lisi
On Monday 31 August 2009 23:43:56 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 31 August 2009 15:59:08 Lisi Reisz wrote: ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** Thanks very much for the advice and suggestions so far. Much

RE: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Kevin Ross
From: Lisi [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:32 PM On Monday 31 August 2009 23:43:56 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 31 August 2009 15:59:08 Lisi Reisz wrote: ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a

Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Preston Boyington
Kevin Ross wrote: snipped If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and configure it to autologin, and add startx to your ~/.bash_profile. Then of course you put whatever window manager you want into

Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 23:20:06 Preston Boyington wrote: Kevin Ross wrote: snipped If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and configure it to autologin, and add startx to your ~/.bash_profile.

Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 05:20:06PM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: Kevin Ross wrote: snipped If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and configure it to autologin, and add startx to your

Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 29 September 2009 23:20:06 Preston Boyington wrote: Kevin Ross wrote: snipped If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-06 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,05.Sep.09, 13:44:01, John Fry wrote: Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: As for speeding up the bootprocess: # aptitude install dash # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link That saved me 1s. # aptitude install insserv # dpkg-reconfigure

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-06 Thread Cousin Stanley
As for speeding up the bootprocess: # aptitude install dash # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link # aptitude install insserv # dpkg-reconfigure insserv # echo CONCURRENCY=shell /etc/default/rcS Andrei After applying the method you outlined above along

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-05 Thread John Fry
Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: As for speeding up the bootprocess: # aptitude install dash # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link That saved me 1s. # aptitude install insserv # dpkg-reconfigure insserv That *cost* me 2s (i.e., 2s longer to boot). #

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-04 Thread Charles Kroeger
I used to run IceWm...but recently I have become a convert to Fluxbox. It's even lighter than Icewm...and I think more versatile but I might as well weigh in here in the spirit of Debian and just say that I've never used Ice but I have used Fluxbox for a time after using Blackbox and thought

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-03 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
09/01/2009 06:51 PM, Michelle Konzack:: Hey Chris, can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? By the way, He is using one of our domain name: malagasy.com. http://whois.domaintools.com/malagasy.com Blueline is owned by Gulfsat. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat:

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:18:46AM +0300, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: 09/01/2009 06:51 PM, Michelle Konzack:: Hey Chris, can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? By the way, He is using one of our domain name: malagasy.com. http://whois.domaintools.com/malagasy.com Blueline is

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 05:51:25PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hey Chris, can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? You are using an invalid E-Mail address and now the whole thread is going into the spamassassin folder oops, sorry. /etc/postfix/generic fault, or /etc/hosts not

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Ron, Am 2009-09-01 20:31:30, schrieb Ron Johnson: Your SA rules are too strict. No, I get per day several 100 such messages on my mailservers... 99.99% spam, except the ones from Chris. And of course, all 4-8 days I get a loveletter from list.debian.org that my Server is bouncing, but if

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Chris, Am 2009-09-02 21:10:44, schrieb Chris Bannister: oops, sorry. /etc/postfix/generic fault, or /etc/hosts not sure. Hopefully, fixed. ;-) Shit happen... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,02.Sep.09, 11:19:59, Michelle Konzack wrote: And of course, all 4-8 days I get a loveletter from list.debian.org that my Server is bouncing, but if I look into the bouncemessage, it is ALWAYS 100% spam... If you would whitelist liszt.debian.org and *then* pass the mails through

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:28:36 +0300 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon,31.Aug.09, 18:56:48, Celejar wrote: a) I've seen some references to doing it in /etc/default/rcS as you have it, and some in /etc/init.d/rc. On my Sid install, the standard /etc/default/rcS has no

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 11:21:04AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Chris, Am 2009-09-02 21:10:44, schrieb Chris Bannister: oops, sorry. /etc/postfix/generic fault, or /etc/hosts not sure. Hopefully, fixed. ;-) Shit happen... Couldn't you trim your sig for this mailing list? 15

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:28:36 +0300 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: ... /etc/init.d/rc is not a conffile so it will get overwritten on upgrades without any prompt. As /etc/default/rcS is sourced later on Are you sure that this is right? From section 10.7 of the Debian Policy

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,31.Aug.09, 18:56:48, Celejar wrote: a) I've seen some references to doing it in /etc/default/rcS as you have it, and some in /etc/init.d/rc. On my Sid install, the standard /etc/default/rcS has no concurrency variable in it, while the one under init.d has it set to none. Which is

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 06:46:36PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: As for speeding up the bootprocess: # aptitude install dash # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link # aptitude install insserv apt-cache show insserv [..] This package should be used with care, as incorrect

Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hey Chris, can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? You are using an invalid E-Mail address and now the whole thread is going into the spamassassin folder Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,02.Sep.09, 03:44:50, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 06:46:36PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: As for speeding up the bootprocess: # aptitude install dash # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link # aptitude install insserv apt-cache show

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-09-01 10:51, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hey Chris, can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? You are using an invalid E-Mail address and now the whole thread is going into the spamassassin folder Your SA rules are too strict. -- Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got

Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
My husband's box is currently running PCLinuxOS 2009. A dying HDD necessitates a fresh istallation. ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** He finds the PCLOS very slow to boot up after the Libranet that he had

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:59:08 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** TIA Lisi I can't help with the boot process but, if he is used to Libranet Linux (!!! really? How

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread randall
Lisi Reisz wrote: My husband's box is currently running PCLinuxOS 2009. A dying HDD necessitates a fresh istallation. ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** i hate to say this on a debian list ;) but i was

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,31.Aug.09, 15:59:08, Lisi Reisz wrote: My husband's box is currently running PCLinuxOS 2009. A dying HDD necessitates a fresh istallation. ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** I'm running Xfce 4.6 from

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 03:59:08PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** Depending on the hardware / driver bugs and your specific needs, suspend-to-disk might be an option as well. The

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Preston Boyington
Lisi Reisz wrote: snipped XFCE is currently looking like the front runner, but I fear that it may be en route to getting bloated. Opinions, please. well, it's going to be a little bit of a trade off since I'm seeing more GNOME libs and such. still it will be faster and less bloated than

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 31 August 2009 16:18:16 Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:59:08 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** TIA Lisi I can't help with the boot

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 31 August 2009 15:59:08 Lisi Reisz wrote: ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** Thanks very much for the advice and suggestions so far. Much appreciated. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:46:36 +0300 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: ... As for speeding up the bootprocess: ... # echo CONCURRENCY=shell /etc/default/rcS I've seen this stuff floating around the web, but it doesn't seem to be documented very well: a) I've seen some

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Charles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:42:27 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 31 August 2009 16:18:16 Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:59:08 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: ***I would be very grateful for help

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
08/31/2009 05:59 PM, Lisi Reisz: The details of the desktop are unimportant, [...] XFCE is currently looking like the front runner, but I fear that it may be en route to getting bloated. Opinions, please. [...] I am trying to speed things up. I have no old machine, but yes XFCE is more and