Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3 Big Progress

2015-07-21 Thread Martin G. McCormick
To all who have helped me so far, a huge thank you! I soon realized that the subject line of this message is incorrect since pop3 covers only the delivery task and I got that working a couple of weeks or so ago. The indescribably joyful experience of being able to successfully authenticate

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-17 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Paul E Condon writes: I use msmtp, not exim, even though exim comes already installed by Debian. Msmtp has its own tiny config file which can be located at ~/.msmtprc You can put there whatever you need to satisfy you ISP and have no fear of exim mucking about with it. Of course, don't remove

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Martin G. McCormick (mar...@server1.shellworld.net): Paul E Condon writes: I use msmtp, not exim, even though exim comes already installed by Debian. Msmtp has its own tiny config file which can be located at ~/.msmtprc You can put there whatever you need to satisfy you ISP and

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-14 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Paul E Condon writes: I use msmtp, not exim, even though exim comes already installed by Debian. Msmtp has its own tiny config file which can be located at ~/.msmtprc You can put there whatever you need to satisfy you ISP and have no fear of exim mucking about with it. Of course, don't remove

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-14 Thread Martin G. McCormick
David Wright writes: A number of very good suggestions The other thing you could try is a handcrafted email, which takes about 5 minutes, by typing the following into a bash prompt: $ echo -e -n '\0marti...@suddenlink.net\0SECRET' | base64 aBase64stringIsEmitted= $ openssl

Gloss on the example of sending authenticated email, was Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-12 Thread David Wright
I believe in learning by doing, so I posted an example that one can actually do. However, private emails show that it's caused a little confusion. To make it as easy as I could, I wrote the example using the information posted by the OP, and using the OP's own placeholder, SECRET, as the password.

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bob Bernstein (poo...@ruptured-duck.com): Maybe it's me; I'm not as spry as I used to be, but I am having difficulty following you. Ditto On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' That looks fine to me, if the syntax for specifying a

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, David Wright wrote: dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' Syntax is correct. I've not tried that port. Must do so sometime. I think we're learning here in this thread to avoid generalizations, but 587 is known as the submit port. I have had good luck with it. The

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: If I hope to send mail through smtp.suddenlink.net, it must see marti...@suddenlink.net plus the password also used to retrieve pop3 mail and the retrieval does work. Does your MUA set From: to marti...@suddenlink.net, and also set the

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Martin G. McCormick
David Wright writes: I don't see what the issue is. People with different usernames send mail from this system. Correct. After looking at what I posted, it is confusing. Let's try again. Do you mean /etc/mailname? What's actually in there? wb5agz.swbell.net That should never show up on the

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Brian
On Sat 11 Jul 2015 at 07:43:49 -0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: David Wright writes: I don't see what the issue is. People with different usernames send mail from this system. Correct. After looking at what I posted, it is confusing. Let's try again. Do you mean /etc/mailname?

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Curt
On 2015-07-11, Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net wrote: The smarthost sees mar...@suddenlink.net and what it should see in the From: line is marti...@suddenlink.net Here are all the non-comments from update-exim4.conf.conf Cannot this be defined in /etc/email-addresses?

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting Martin G. McCormick (mar...@server1.shellworld.net): David Wright writes: I don't see what the issue is. People with different usernames send mail from this system. Correct. After looking at what I posted, it is confusing. Let's try again. Do you mean /etc/mailname? What's

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150708_2203-0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: I am trying to get a debian squeeze system to pull mail from my cable provider's pop3 server. It appears they are not doing anything really out of the ordinary but I obviously have something set wrong. Here is a short snippet

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting David Wright (deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk): Quoting Martin G. McCormick (mar...@server1.shellworld.net): The mainlog file displays the error that smtp.suddenlink.net is reporting 2015-07-11 06:29:26 1ZDsyD-0001Rm-PO ** mar...@shellworld.net R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost:

Outgoing mail, was Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting Martin G. McCormick (mar...@server1.shellworld.net): Are there flags I can send to exim4 to see what the message looks like which will probably tell me which headers are wrong? This will make it possible to go through exim4-config once again to see what I set wrong since the smtp

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
Maybe it's me; I'm not as spry as I used to be, but I am having difficulty following you. On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' That looks fine to me, if the syntax for specifying a port is correct for exim (I simply don't know one way or

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Bob Bernstein writes: what do you put in exim's config as the name of your smarthost? dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' I have figured out the first thing that is wrong but am not sure how to fix it. When registering a user ID on Suddenlink's email gateway, I had to pick a

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread David Wright
Quoting Martin G. McCormick (mar...@server1.shellworld.net): Bob Bernstein writes: what do you put in exim's config as the name of your smarthost? dc_smarthost='smtp.suddenlink.net::587' I have figured out the first thing that is wrong but am not sure how to fix it. When

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread Martin G. McCormick
The job now is to get the out-bound authentication to work to the smtp server. One should use dpkg-configure exim4-config to set exim to use a smarthost for out-bound messages and rely on fetchmail for the incoming mail. Most of this is relatively easy and straight-forward except for one

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-10 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: The job now is to get the out-bound authentication to work to the smtp server. what do you put in exim's config as the name of your smarthost? -- I am not a loony. Why should I be tarred with the epithet 'loony' merely because I have a pet

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 08:28:36AM -0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: Lisi Reisz writes: As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is wrong. Most POP3 mailhosts require the full email address, with the @domain bit. Lisi This one is no exception. Thank you!! I

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 July 2015 16:11:21 Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 08:28:36AM -0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: Lisi Reisz writes: As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is wrong. Most POP3 mailhosts require the full email address, with the

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, John D. Hendrickson wrote: but ALL DAMN DAY every day it got IP attacks purportedly from china. It's of course still like that out there, ALL DAMN DAY, the Wild West, Main St., Dodge City, only it's mostly (I think) SSH brute force attempts. I show skeptical friends my

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Bob Bernstein writes: Is there a special reason you do not post your .fetchmailrc file? Yes. This is called a senior moment. It's when you forget to include all the relevant information for which I apologize. Here is the slightly obfuscated .fetchmailrc file. The only obscured part is

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 July 2015 12:54:07 Martin G. McCormick wrote: Bob Bernstein writes: Is there a special reason you do not post your .fetchmailrc file? Yes. This is called a senior moment. It's when you forget to include all the relevant information for which I apologize. Here is the

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Lisi Reisz writes: As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is wrong. Most POP3 mailhosts require the full email address, with the @domain bit. Lisi This one is no exception. Thank you!! I don't know how many times I have read and re-read the lines in that

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: Lisi Reisz writes: As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is wrong. I don't know whether to feel stupid or joyful. You get to feel both at the same time. Enjoy! -- No matter how big the problem is, you can always

Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-08 Thread Martin G. McCormick
I am trying to get a debian squeeze system to pull mail from my cable provider's pop3 server. It appears they are not doing anything really out of the ordinary but I obviously have something set wrong. Here is a short snippet from their instructions for using pop: Incoming

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-08 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: I am trying to get a debian squeeze system to pull mail from my cable provider's pop3 server. Is there a special reason you do not post your .fetchmailrc file? Or, the output of 'fetchmail --version'? And, you have given one or two looks at

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-08 Thread Memnon Anon
Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net writes: Here is a short snippet from their instructions for using pop: Incoming Mail Server: pop.suddenlink.net Incoming mail port: 110 Incoming mail port (SSL): 995 See the note on