Re: FileSystem Question

2007-07-03 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:39:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/29/07 17:54, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: It sounds like the Log File System (LFS) that NetBSD is working on, or the database-style of a mainframe where every 'file' is really a record in a database where back copies are

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-07-03 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:20:39AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:39:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/29/07 17:54, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: It sounds like the Log File System (LFS) that NetBSD is working on, or the database-style of a mainframe where

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-07-03 Thread John Hasler
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: That's what I meant by database-style of a mainframe. It may not be an actual database built on-top of a filesystem, but the ideas behind it are the same. ... I agree. How does one implement it under *NIX? Perhaps AFS might do some of what you want. -- John

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-07-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/03/07 08:20, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:39:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/29/07 17:54, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: It sounds like the Log File System (LFS) that NetBSD is working on, or the database-style of a mainframe where every 'file' is really a

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-07-02 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/29/07 17:54, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:45:03PM +, Manon Metten wrote: It's definitely no ordinary backup or RAID. It even works with a single hd. SFS takes care of all this. I don't have to backup anything. SFS just writes all subsequent copies of a file

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-07-01 Thread William Pursell
Glen Pfeiffer wrote: On 06/30/2007 03:00 PM, William Pursell wrote: Keep in mind that CVS is extremely old, and entirely obsolete. Subversion was a new implementation of the same idea, and did in fact address many of CVS's shortcomings. I second that. However, if you are going to look into

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-07-01 Thread Manon Metten
Hi William, On 6/30/07, William Pursell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that CVS is extremely old, and entirely obsolete. Subversion was a new implementation of the same idea, and did in fact address many of CVS's shortcomings. However, if you are going to look into using a VCS (Version

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-07-01 Thread Cousin Stanley
I was (and I suppose still am) a huge fan of subversion. I loved RCS, hated CVS, and found subversion to be a God-send I started using git about 3 weeks ago William Under Debian Etch I see the following packages listed git-arch git-core git-cvs

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-07-01 Thread William Pursell
Cousin Stanley wrote: I was (and I suppose still am) a huge fan of subversion. I loved RCS, hated CVS, and found subversion to be a God-send I started using git about 3 weeks ago William Under Debian Etch I see the following packages listed git-arch

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-30 Thread Manon Metten
Hi Douglas, On 6/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:45:03PM +, Manon Metten wrote: I've never used it but you can probably use a CVS repository for this more conveniently. I don't know nothing about CVS repositories. Can you explain a little

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-30 Thread Manon Metten
Hi Sam, On 6/30/07, Sam Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext3cow does this but it is not in debian repos for some reason http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/02/0413253 Thanks for the link. I checked out ext3cow, but taking snapshots is not exactly what I meant. SFS takes no

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-30 Thread Sam Leon
Manon Metten wrote: Hi Sam, On 6/30/07, *Sam Leon* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext3cow does this but it is not in debian repos for some reason http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/02/0413253

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-30 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 05:29:58PM +, Manon Metten wrote: On 6/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:45:03PM +, Manon Metten wrote: I've never used it but you can probably use a CVS repository for this more conveniently. I don't know

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-30 Thread Manon Metten
Hi Sam, On 6/30/07, Sam Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I swear I have heard of something like that for ext3. I though it was ext3cow. Took me like 30 minutes to find it on google, lol. hmm Oh my! Well, thanks again. Although ext3cow is not what I am looking for, your effort is much

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-30 Thread Manon Metten
Hi Douglas, On 6/30/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See the apt descriptions for subversion and cvs. From the description of cvs: CVS is a version control system, which allows you to keep old versions of files (usually source code), keep a log of who,

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-30 Thread William Pursell
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 05:29:58PM +, Manon Metten wrote: On 6/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:45:03PM +, Manon Metten wrote: I've never used it but you can probably use a CVS repository for this more

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-30 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
On 06/30/2007 03:00 PM, William Pursell wrote: Keep in mind that CVS is extremely old, and entirely obsolete. Subversion was a new implementation of the same idea, and did in fact address many of CVS's shortcomings. I second that. However, if you are going to look into using a VCS (Version

FileSystem Question

2007-06-29 Thread Manon Metten
Hi, On my Debian GNU/Linux box I use ext3 file system. On my other platform (AmigaOS) I use SmartFileSystem (SFS). Well, I don't know nothing about file systems, but SFS has one feature I really miss in ext3: .recycled. Every file I delete or every file I overwrite, ends up in .recycled. This

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-29 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi. Manon Metten, 29.06.2007 19:06: Now after saving for the fifth time, I realize that I had accidentally deleted some vital info. How can I retrieve that? I just open eg. .recycled/my_doc$AAB, copy the info that was not deleted at that time and paste it in my current doc. Now here's my

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-29 Thread Manon Metten
On 6/29/07, Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now after saving for the fifth time, I realize that I had accidentally deleted some vital info. How can I retrieve that? I just open eg. .recycled/my_doc$AAB, copy the info that was not deleted at that time and paste it in my current doc.

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 06:45:03PM +, Manon Metten wrote: It's definitely no ordinary backup or RAID. It even works with a single hd. SFS takes care of all this. I don't have to backup anything. SFS just writes all subsequent copies of a file to different locations on the hd and moves

Re: FileSystem Question

2007-06-29 Thread Sam Leon
Manon Metten wrote: Hi, On my Debian GNU/Linux box I use ext3 file system. On my other platform (AmigaOS) I use SmartFileSystem (SFS). Well, I don't know nothing about file systems, but SFS has one feature I really miss in ext3: .recycled. Every file I delete or every file I overwrite, ends

Re: Re: usb camera / filesystem question

2004-11-30 Thread Jim McCloskey
Ron Johnson, Jr. wrote: | To use a Sony digital camera with my Debian laptop, all I had to do | was to include this line in /etc/udev/udev.rules: | |BUS=scsi, SYSFS_vendor=Sony, NAME=camera | | If you ever get another hot-pluggable Sony device, your rule | will fail. Better to be a bit

Re: usb camera / filesystem question

2004-11-29 Thread Jim McCloskey
Christian Convey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'm curious about the way a USB camera gets set up when plugged into | a Sarge / 2.6.9 system. I'm also using 'udev'. Anyone know the | following? | | When I plug in the camera, I assume there are three devices that must | be created in the /dev

Re: usb camera / filesystem question

2004-11-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 14:52 -0800, Jim McCloskey wrote: Christian Convey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'm curious about the way a USB camera gets set up when plugged into | a Sarge / 2.6.9 system. I'm also using 'udev'. Anyone know the | following? | | When I plug in the camera, I assume

usb camera / filesystem question

2004-11-26 Thread Christian Convey
Hi guys, I'm curious about the way a USB camera gets set up when plugged into a Sarge / 2.6.9 system. I'm also using 'udev'. Anyone know the following? When I plug in the camera, I assume there are three devices that must be created in the /dev directory, no? #1 : a device for the camera's

Re: usb camera / filesystem question

2004-11-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 21:35 -0500, Christian Convey wrote: Hi guys, I'm curious about the way a USB camera gets set up when plugged into a Sarge / 2.6.9 system. I'm also using 'udev'. Anyone know the following? When I plug in the camera, I assume there are three devices that must be