r linux.
>>>> One specific to Ubuntu distro and one with AppImage. You re not
>>>> mentioning which one you used to be able to reproduce.
>>> I am installing with
>>>
>>> apt install love (as root of course)
>>>
>>> How do I perh
and one with AppImage. You re not
>> > mentioning which one you used to be able to reproduce.
>>
>> I am installing with
>>
>> apt install love (as root of course)
>>
>> How do I perhaps query dpkg to see what exactly it has installed etc?
>> >
>
> You ca
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 11:33:17AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
> I am installing with
>
> apt install love (as root of course)
>
> How do I perhaps query dpkg to see what exactly it has installed etc?
man dpkg
And this is my POLITE answer.
worked
> >> fine on Debian 9 but seems to crash on debian 10. I don't think
> >> this is a hardware issue as this happens on both my desktop and
> >> netbook (I have included desktop output of lshw -c video in my
> >> blog post)
> >>
> >>
>> hardware issue as this happens on both my desktop and netbook (I have
>> included desktop output of lshw -c video in my blog post)
>>
>> http://zleap.net/love-2d-debian-10-issues/
>>
>> Has anyone else had similar issues or can someone perhaps test this
>&
; included desktop output of lshw -c video in my blog post)
>
> http://zleap.net/love-2d-debian-10-issues/
>
> Has anyone else had similar issues or can someone perhaps test this
> and see if there is a problem please.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
From what I see the lo
Hi
I am trying to run Love2d which is a 2d game engine. This worked fine on
Debian 9 but seems to crash on debian 10. I don't think this is a
hardware issue as this happens on both my desktop and netbook (I have
included desktop output of lshw -c video in my blog post)
http://zleap.net/love-2d
Hello,
In testing I would love to see this error go away:
KDEInit could not launch 'kpat':
Could not open library '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat'.
Cannot load library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat:
(/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat.so: cannot open shared
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... Dunno if this is entirely appropriate for this list or not. Thing is, I'm
one of those users who's never really into the mailing lists, as I've never
really needed them...
Which, would, actually, be the subject of this message...
This is just to say to the Debian developers and package
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Rolando Pereira wrote:
(And if he had nothing to do, how come my email went to his mailbox
directly?)
... because someone sent an email with his forged from-address:
Yes it was forged. No one was more suprised than myself to see that
message show up on the
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I wish I had a hamster powered rocket...
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:09:23 +0100, Rolando Pereira wrote:
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] wrote [ pretending to be Bob Proulx ]:
I love Debian so much that when I see the Debian boot screen my rocket
takes off!!
I wish I had a hamster powered rocket...
I wish you had not sent your reply to Bob
Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:09:23 +0100, Rolando Pereira wrote:
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] wrote [ pretending to be Bob Proulx ]:
I love Debian so much that when I see the Debian boot screen my rocket
takes off!!
I wish I had a hamster powered rocket...
I wish you had
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[snip]
Received: from
Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:09:23 +0100, Rolando Pereira wrote:
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] wrote [ pretending to be Bob Proulx ]:
I love Debian so much that when I see the Debian boot screen my rocket
takes off!!
I wish I had a hamster powered rocket...
I wish you had
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I love Debian so much that when I see the Debian boot screen my rocket takes
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Me too
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Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:09:23 +0100, Rolando Pereira wrote:
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] wrote [ pretending to be Bob Proulx ]:
I love Debian so much that when I see the Debian boot screen my rocket
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I love Debian so much that when I see the Debian boot screen my rocket takes
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2. Test Your Love -- Here and Now
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Travis Crook wrote:
Ditto! Debian just works! I've tried a couple of other distros, and
they don't just work.
Before we all get too syrupy here, I've posted a problem here
which never got addressed, and had another user contact me
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Ottavio Caruso wrote:
How *do* you do that?
What do you mean?
cross-compile for another distribution, with presumably
an entirely different list of package-dependencies.
I surely don't and advise anybody against doing that. I was referring
to some who
Ottavio Caruso wrote:
I surely don't and advise anybody against doing that. I was referring
to some who are both Ubuntu and Debian developers, who start eith the
former and then send massive disruptive patches to Unstable.
Ottavio
I'm agree with your points!
I very dislike those guys
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 16:29 +0200, Frank Hart wrote:
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:08:23AM -0500, Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
Well, I would like to add a huge thankyou. I just got a recon box for
£99 (an old compaq with a 1.7 Intel
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On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:49:23AM -0700, Ottavio
Caruso wrote:
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the
developers right now
Especially those who have to cross-compile for
Debian
and Ubuntu...
How *do* you do that?
What
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:08:23AM -0500, Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 04:04:38AM -0700, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:49:23AM -0700, Ottavio
Caruso wrote:
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the
developers right now
Especially those who have to
Debian rules! Many thanks to everyone behind Debian.
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Mike McCarty wrote:
Travis Crook wrote:
Ditto! Debian just works! I've tried a couple of other distros, and
they don't just work.
Before we all get too syrupy here, I've posted a problem here
which never got addressed, and had another user contact me
months later with the same problem,
Am 2006-09-22 11:10:05, schrieb Travis Crook:
Ditto! Debian just works! I've tried a couple of other distros, and
they don't just work.
This is why I use it since Version 2.1 codename Slink.
Debian is a realy great work.
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
On 9/22/06, Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To all of you Debian developers, thank you. I really appreciate the
work you do. Keep it up!
* I am an enthusiast and just can't wait for Etch's release... Just
hope the developers resolve those complex issues with licencing and
whatever in
Debian rocks! Thanks to all who contribute to this great
distribution!
I'm glad that someone posted this here!
No-one claimed that Debian is perfect, it's just so much less
imperfect
than anything else!
Just my opinion.
Johannes
And mine, too.
Debian rules!
=
El ESPERANTO,
Pollywog wrote:
It was not a USB stick, it was a memory stick from a digital camera.
She had a USB dock for the memory stick. Windows recognizes and
mounts it fine. Debian won't recognize it.
I had to edit /etc/fstab in order to get Debian to recognize mine.
Is this one that has the USB plug
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
It was strange if it had been someone else but you to find the first
hair in the soup.
And equally strange if you weren't the first to point that out!
:-)
Mike
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On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:49:23AM -0700, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the
developers right now
Especially those who have to cross-compile for Debian
and Ubuntu...
How *do* you do that? I have an AMD64 whose Debian crashes
I feel so grateful to debian that I can't think a way to express all the
quality, support, reliability that it has bring to my professional life.
I have installed a dozen servers with debian.
I have updated all of them with a single line command.
I have left RH6.2, RH7.3, RH8, RH9, gentoo,
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project.
To all DDs,
A big thank you for making my life so much easier.
Debian makes Linux rock even more than
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the
developers right now
Especially those who have to cross-compile for Debian
and Ubuntu...
I love Debian.
I love it too and it hurts me when some Debian
developers smear it.
I love how the system works.
Regardless of what
Add me to the list of devoted Debian users. I mailed a donation of $50
this morning. I hope it helps.
Tom
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Add me to the list of devoted Debian users. I mailed a donation of $50
this morning. I hope it helps.
Bravo! The donation suggestion is the best suggestion in this thread.
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* Bruno Buys [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060923 19:15]:
Since user-lists deal mostly with problems, one might get the feel that
problems are all that there is, here. This thread - which I endorse - is
one good idea. Someone considered posting it to debian-devel?
It was mentioned twice on
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Thank you, Debian developers!
Same here, Thank you very much!
Donations can be made through http://www.spi-inc.org/donations
Make sure to specify that the money
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality of the packages. I love that it lets
Even Debian unstable (sid) is more stable than other the stable dists.
Thanks to the developers and to those who manage this mailing list.
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Scott Lair wrote:
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality of the packages. I
-- Original message --
From: Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:08:23 -0500, Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
Really? This is the fist time that I hear about it. Any more reading? I
really hope not, because I love Debian so much.
thought it might be nice for all of us users
Yes, I will agree, WELL DONE, and keep up the good work DD's. I have
used a few distro's and what has made me come back to Debian is it's
stability, and ease of updateing etc. One thing that makes it stand out
over most other distro's is its maturity. Love it.
Cheers, Martin.
On 11:08 Fri 22
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality of the packages. I love that it lets me do what I
want to do
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:08:23 -0500
Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now,
so I thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them
why Debian is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how
the system works. I
Raquel wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:08:23 -0500
Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now,
so I thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them
why Debian is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how
I love debian for its simplicity in installing / upgrading /
configuring and fantastic package management tool apt. It really
makes sys admin life easier .Thanks for that , guysOn 9/22/06, José Alburquerque [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Raquel wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:08:23 -0500 Jason Martens
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:08 AM
To: debian-user
Subject: Debian Love
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how
Me too lads. More power to yer elbows :-)
Joe Mc Cool
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Hear! Hear!
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality of the packages. I love
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:08:23 -0500
Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system
works. I
On Friday 22 September 2006 16:08, Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality
On (22/09/06 09:12), Raquel wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:08:23 -0500
Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now,
so I thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them
why Debian is such an awesome project. I love
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality of the packages. I love that it lets me do what I
want to do
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how
the system works. I love the quality of the packages. I love that
it lets me do what I want to do, and does not try to dictate how
to do things.
To all of you Debian developers, thank you. I really appreciate
the work you do. Keep it up!
Jason Martens
On 9/22/06, Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:08:23AM -0500, Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love
Yes, I agree!
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Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality of the packages. I
Travis Crook wrote:
Ditto! Debian just works! I've tried a couple of other distros, and
they don't just work.
Before we all get too syrupy here, I've posted a problem here
which never got addressed, and had another user contact me
months later with the same problem, wondering whether I
On Fri September 22 2006 11:52, Mike McCarty wrote:
Travis Crook wrote:
Ditto! Debian just works! I've tried a couple of other distros, and
they don't just work.
Before we all get too syrupy here, I've posted a problem here
which never got addressed, and had another user contact me
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:08:23 -0500, Jason Martens wrote
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so
I thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality of the packages. I love that it lets me
Mike McCarty wrote:
Travis Crook wrote:
Ditto! Debian just works! I've tried a couple of other distros, and
they don't just work.
Before we all get too syrupy here, I've posted a problem here
which never got addressed, and had another user contact me
months later with the same problem,
H.S. wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
[snip]
inability to read her camera memory stick. She finally went and
got an HP printer which can read it directly without going
through the computer.
I don't recall seeing this message in the mailing list so I don't know
the facts. Do you mean that her
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:08:23AM -0500, Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love
Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion!
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On 09/22/06 15:44, Mike McCarty wrote:
H.S. wrote:
Mike McCarty wrote:
[snip]
inability to read her camera memory stick. She finally went and
got an HP printer which can read it directly without going
through the computer.
I don't recall
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:08:23 -0500
Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To all of you Debian developers, thank you. I really appreciate the
work you do. Keep it up!
Jason Martens
Debian Lover
Damn, we have become AOL'ers ;-)
I made the switch 2 (or so) years ago from RH. Guys/gals, you
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:08:23 -0500
Jason Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system
works. I
Mike McCarty wrote:
My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory
cards. The card reader is a Dazzle USB card reader. It mounts
just fine with Windows XP, but does not mount with Debian.
The type is
SanDisk 128 mg SDMS 0343SD7
hmm .. so, she is trying to read the memory
It was not a USB stick, it was a memory stick from a digital camera.
She had a USB dock for the memory stick. Windows recognizes and
mounts it fine. Debian won't recognize it.
I had to edit /etc/fstab in order to get Debian to recognize mine.
Is this one that has the USB plug built-in or
On Saturday 23 September 2006 02:08, Jason Martens shared this with us all:
-- It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
-- thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
-- is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the
system works. I love the quality of the packages. I love that it
lets me do what I want to do, and does not try to dictate how to do
things.
To all of you Debian developers, thank you. I really appreciate the
work you do. Keep it up
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality of the packages. I love that it lets me
Jason Martens wrote:
It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
is such an awesome project. I love Debian. I love how the system works.
I love the quality of the packages. I love that it lets
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It has instead been forwarded to the security team and the listmaster team.
The debian-security-announce list is a moderated mailing list on
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Debian
On (21/05/06 18:02), Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (20/05/06 16:49), Dirk wrote:
Why was xorgcfg removed by the last update
Am I supposed to install some retarded KDE to configure xorg.conf now?
As root:
# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.conf
In upgrading a
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 07:23:46PM +0200, Dirk wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:58:45AM -0400, rs wrote:
Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
the package description (from packages.debian.org) notes the existence
of xorgcfg in
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
alias xorgcfg=vim
should do the trick for you :)
of course on my box, I also have
alias vim=emacs
Do you also have
alias ed=vim ?
:)
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Clive Menzies wrote:
On (20/05/06 16:49), Dirk wrote:
Why was xorgcfg removed by the last update
Am I supposed to install some retarded KDE to configure xorg.conf now?
As root:
# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.conf
In upgrading a partition from Sarge to Sid, of course X broke.
I
* Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 May 21 18:22 -0500]:
In upgrading a partition from Sarge to Sid, of course X broke.
I tried to use the above command but where does the xorg.conf go?
/etc/X11/xorg.conf
Never showed up.
So I winged my way through it.
That's a good reason to save
Why was xorgcfg removed by the last update
Am I supposed to install some retarded KDE to configure xorg.conf now?
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Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
the package description (from packages.debian.org) notes the existence
of xorgcfg in the 6.9 series but recommends usage of debconf tools
(dpkg-reconfigure). looks like that recommendation is now a
On (20/05/06 16:49), Dirk wrote:
Why was xorgcfg removed by the last update
Am I supposed to install some retarded KDE to configure xorg.conf now?
As root:
# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.conf
Regards
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On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:58:45AM -0400, rs wrote:
Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
the package description (from packages.debian.org) notes the existence
of xorgcfg in the 6.9 series but recommends usage of debconf tools
(dpkg-reconfigure). looks like
Dirk writes:
I want [xorgcfg] BACK Best X setup tool there is... (IMHO)
Get it from upstream, or package it and find a sponsor to upload it for
you.
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:58:45AM -0400, rs wrote:
Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
the package description (from packages.debian.org) notes the existence
of xorgcfg in the 6.9 series but recommends
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 07:23:46PM +0200, Dirk wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 10:58:45AM -0400, rs wrote:
Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
the package description (from packages.debian.org) notes the existence
of xorgcfg in the 6.9 series but
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I'm baffled I can start this by running /etc/init.d/mythbackend
start after the computer starts but when its starting up it just says
its starting but never does.
How on earth would I trouble shoot something like this if it isn't going
to tell me why it isn't starting it? And can somebody
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