On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:26:22AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
aptitude remove exim4 aptitude install postfix
should do it (if you want to install postfix).
One MTA conflicts with the other and removes its packages.
You may, exceptionally, need to dpkg --purge the exim4 components
and there's no
On 2010-03-28 10:56 +0200, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:26:22AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
aptitude remove exim4 aptitude install postfix
should do it (if you want to install postfix).
One MTA conflicts with the other and removes its packages.
Better use aptitude
exim4 is a MTA , xmail is also MTA , the system alows only one MTA , so
aptitude resolves this conflict by purging exim4
Rogerio
2010/3/28 Celejar cele...@gmail.com
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:45:53 -0300
Rogerio Luz Coelho rogluz.n...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/3/27
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:59:39 -0300
Rogerio Luz Coelho rogluz.n...@gmail.com wrote:
exim4 is a MTA , xmail is also MTA , the system alows only one MTA , so
aptitude resolves this conflict by purging exim4
You're missing the point - I know that your aptitude command
On Sunday 28 March 2010 15:24:30 Celejar wrote:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:59:39 -0300
Rogerio Luz Coelho rogluz.n...@gmail.com wrote:
exim4 is a MTA , xmail is also MTA , the system alows only one MTA , so
aptitude resolves this conflict by purging exim4
You're missing the point - I know
Just do a
2010/3/3 Brian Ryans brian.l.ry...@gmail.com
Quoting Carlos Williams on 2010-03-02 09:28:13:
I thought I was purging the package, no?
#apt-get remove --purge exim4
I do this to purge exim4 and ev erything it stands for
# aptitude install xdm
;)
Rogerio
SORRY !!!
It´s
#aptitude install xmail ...
2010/3/27 Rogerio Luz Coelho rogluz.n...@gmail.com
Just do a
2010/3/3 Brian Ryans brian.l.ry...@gmail.com
Quoting Carlos Williams on 2010-03-02 09:28:13:
I thought I was purging the package, no?
#apt-get remove --purge exim4
I do this to
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:45:53 -0300
Rogerio Luz Coelho rogluz.n...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/3/27 Rogerio Luz Coelho rogluz.n...@gmail.com
...
I do this to purge exim4 and ev erything it stands for
# aptitude install xdm
;)
SORRY !!!
It´s
#aptitude install
Quoting Carlos Williams on 2010-03-02 09:28:13:
I thought I was purging the package, no?
#apt-get remove --purge exim4
As implied by Boyd in a sibling post, the package 'exim4' is what's
termed a metapackage, a package whose only role is to pull in other
packages via Depends. The package
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:54:51 -0500, Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com wrote:
/usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax/exim.vim
That's not an exim file - it's part of vim-runtime package.
/var/cache/apt/archives/exim4-base_4.71-3_amd64.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/exim4-config_4.71-3_all.deb
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 3/2/2010 1:21 AM:
In 4b8c7c66.6070...@hardwarefreak.com, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
it auto removes Exim4 however still leaves all the
orphaned files and junk.*
I'm not convinced this is a statement of fact, but depending on how the
installer does things it
On Tuesday 02 March 2010 00:32:10 Carlos Williams wrote:
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
I use nullmailer in these situations
+1
Installing nullmailer will remove exim for you.
I am sorry but I don't understand what you mean by 'install
nullmailer'. Is
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
type
aptitude install nullmailer
in a root konsole. Press enter.
Lisi
Yes I understand now but as I stated before that installing Postfix,
Sendmail, or any other alternative MTA has no impact on the real
problem at hand. What
On 2010-03-02 14:17 +0100, Carlos Williams wrote:
Yes I understand now but as I stated before that installing Postfix,
Sendmail, or any other alternative MTA has no impact on the real
problem at hand. What ever MTA you choose to install, APT auto removes
Exim but leaves tons of files and
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:
On 2010-03-02 14:17 +0100, Carlos Williams wrote:
Yes I understand now but as I stated before that installing Postfix,
Sendmail, or any other alternative MTA has no impact on the real
problem at hand. What ever MTA you choose
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:
Please elaborate. Which files are left?
Sven
If you remove Exim manually using apt-get --purge exim4 or if you
install an alternative MTA and the package manager uninstalls Exim,
either way you're left with this much mess
In 4b8cc633.7090...@hardwarefreak.com, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 3/2/2010 1:21 AM:
In 4b8c7c66.6070...@hardwarefreak.com, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
it auto removes Exim4 however still leaves all the
orphaned files and junk.*
I'm not convinced this is a statement of
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
It's nothing to do with the order your installed packages. It is the
difference between removed and purged. Confiles -- files where changes by the
local administrator are preserved when upgrading -- are kept
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:54:51 -0500 (EST), Carlos Williams wrote:
If you remove Exim manually using apt-get --purge exim4 or if you
install an alternative MTA and the package manager uninstalls Exim,
either way you're left with this much mess that doesn't include the
user accounts and groups:
On Tuesday 02 March 2010 13:17:27 Carlos Williams wrote:
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
type
aptitude install nullmailer
in a root konsole. Press enter.
Lisi
Yes I understand now but as I stated before that installing Postfix,
Sendmail, or any other
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:59:23PM -0500, Carlos Williams wrote:
I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for
some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It
appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim. Does
anyone know how I can completely
In d80f793f1003020728q1c15a3bt33e7e780b3dc1...@mail.gmail.com, Carlos
Williams wrote:
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
It's nothing to do with the order your installed packages. It is the
difference between removed and purged. Confiles --
On 2010-03-02 15:54 +0100, Carlos Williams wrote:
If you remove Exim manually using apt-get --purge exim4 or if you
install an alternative MTA and the package manager uninstalls Exim,
either way you're left with this much mess that doesn't include the
user accounts and groups:
r...@mail:~#
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 09:54:51AM -0500, Carlos Williams wrote:
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:
Please elaborate. Which files are left?
Sven
If you remove Exim manually using apt-get --purge exim4 or if you
install an alternative MTA and the package
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote:
The command you ran was not apt-get --purge exim4 but (from your
original post) apt-get remove --purge exim4. Is there any chance apt-get
invoked remove and ignored purge?
I just got everything sorted out. If I run:
#
Carlos Williams writes:
This purges a bunch more. I think thats the best I am going to get on
Debian...until we have the choice to omit specific packages.
You do have that choice.
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You could always reinstall choosing the most basic system, [...]
I believe the base system (not the standard system task) pulled by the d-i
currently installs exim as a Recommends dependency to cron. Only way would
be preseeds or plain debootstrap, I think.
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I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for
some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It
appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim. Does
anyone know how I can completely omit this from a fresh Debian
install? When I run:
apt-get remove
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:59:23PM -0500, Carlos Williams wrote:
I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for
some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It
appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim. Does
anyone know how I can completely
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 07:01:36AM +1100, Alex Samad wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:59:23PM -0500, Carlos Williams wrote:
[snip]
apt-get remove --purge exim4
[snip]
could this be because you have removed and not purged the package ?
I seemed to have missed the --purge above
On Monday 01 March 2010 13:59:23 Carlos Williams wrote:
I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for
some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It
appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim.
Or any other mail-transport-daemon.
Does
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 14:59 -0500, Carlos Williams wrote:
I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for
some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim.
[...]
I am trying to use Postfix
Yes. Perhaps we need a 'really expert' installation mode, where every
time
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for
some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It
appears that Cron is a default package and depends on Exim. Does
anyone know how I can
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote:
In Lenny (not sure if its changed as of Squeeze), its the standard
system task that installs exim4. Don't install this task and install
your preferred MTA after installation.
In Squeeze if you de-select 'every' task
On Monday 01 March 2010 20:01:36 Alex Samad wrote:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:59:23PM -0500, Carlos Williams wrote:
I am trying to install Debian (Testing) via 'netinst' disk and for
some reason am completely unable to install Debian w/o Exim. It
appears that Cron is a default package and
On Monday 01 March 2010 16:06:59 Carlos Williams wrote:
In Squeeze if you de-select 'every' task possible during the
installer, you still get Exim installed because of Cron. It needs an
MTA (Exim4).
After my fresh new system is up and running, I can install Postfix
(which I did) and it also
Carlos Williams wrote:
[...]
Sadly it leaves all this on my freshly installed system and who knows
what else locate didn't actually find:
It's most probably silly, but might an instance of exim still be running?
If you haven't rebooted and forgot to stop it before purging, maybe there's
some
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
I use nullmailer in these situations
+1
Installing nullmailer will remove exim for you.
I am sorry but I don't understand what you mean by 'install
nullmailer'. Is this something I install before I begin the 'netinst'
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 19:32 -0500, Carlos Williams wrote:
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
I use nullmailer in these situations
+1
Installing nullmailer will remove exim for you.
I am sorry but I don't understand what you mean by 'install
nullmailer'.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote:
It's just another (very simple) MTA. I don't see that installing that
would do anything that installing Postfix doesn't. It's the usual
suggestion for those who claim not to want an MTA at all.
Richard
Oh I see. I
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 3/1/2010 2:28 PM:
Postfix works well in the Debian environment, or so I'm told.
Very well indeed. I've been using it for years and the only real problem
I've run into was the lack of a syslog socket in the chroot. That was fixed
with Lenny/2.5.5. I've no
In 4b8c7c66.6070...@hardwarefreak.com, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
it auto removes Exim4 however still leaves all the
orphaned files and junk.*
I'm not convinced this is a statement of fact, but depending on how the
installer does things it could be accurate.
Take this for what it's worth: On my
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