Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-17 Thread Ilya Martynov
ES == Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ES if you have enough $$ go with ibm 390 (or whatever the number is) ES otherwise try wmware (or other similar product), if you require ES completely virtual machines (hw and all) you need a virtual machine, I ES guess there's no way

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-16 Thread Ilya Martynov
CC == Colin Cashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No. chroot is not safe enough. I want to create virtual boxes in which I can give root rights to other people and I want to be sure that they can't break other boxes. AGAIK if you have root you can escape chroot'ed

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-16 Thread Erik Steffl
if you have enough $$ go with ibm 390 (or whatever the number is) otherwise try wmware (or other similar product), if you require completely virtual machines (hw and all) you need a virtual machine, I guess there's no way around it, chroot and I suspect jail (I don't know jail) would not cut it.

Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-15 Thread Ilya Martynov
Hi, I'm interested if there is exists some software which allows to implement virtual boxes under Linux (something that provide simular capabilities as FreeBSD's jails). The only thing I know about is user-mode linux kernel. Does anybody had experience with it? How stable is it? Is there any

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-15 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 05:03:16PM +0300, Ilya Martynov wrote: I'm interested if there is exists some software which allows to implement virtual boxes under Linux (something that provide simular capabilities as FreeBSD's jails). The only thing I know about is user-mode linux kernel. Does

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-15 Thread Ilya Martynov
DS == Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DS On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 05:03:16PM +0300, Ilya Martynov wrote: I'm interested if there is exists some software which allows to implement virtual boxes under Linux (something that provide simular capabilities as FreeBSD's

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-15 Thread Ray Percival
Not knowing about *BSD's jails I'm not sure if you want to restrict a user to only one part of the filesystem why not use chroot? -- Original Message -- From: Ilya Martynov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 15 Mar 2001 17:03:16 +0300 Hi, I'm interested if there is

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-15 Thread Phil Brutsche
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... No. chroot is not safe enough. I want to create virtual boxes in which I can give root rights to other people and I want to be sure that they can't break other boxes. The closest Linux

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-15 Thread Colin Cashman
No. chroot is not safe enough. I want to create virtual boxes in which I can give root rights to other people and I want to be sure that they can't break other boxes. AGAIK if you have root you can escape chroot'ed directory. Another problems that root can have direct access to devices. I

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-15 Thread Joey Hess
Colin Cashman wrote: VSD creates replicas of a working GNU Linux file system and uses this as a template for Virtual Servers. The replica files (not the entire OS) are 'hardlinked' to the original image, and share the same inode as the original file (which saves disk space). Each replica is

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-15 Thread brian moore
On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:15:57AM -0700, Ray Percival wrote: Not knowing about *BSD's jails I'm not sure if you want to restrict a user to only one part of the filesystem why not use chroot? Because root can break out of a chroot(). Trivially. It's not related to devices, like some seem to

Re: Functionality simular to FreeBSD's jails

2001-03-15 Thread Bud Rogers
On Thursday 15 March 2001 08:03, Ilya Martynov wrote: Hi, I'm interested if there is exists some software which allows to implement virtual boxes under Linux (something that provide simular capabilities as FreeBSD's jails). The only thing I know about is user-mode linux kernel. Does anybody