On 12/6/13, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:54:43AM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
>> Ralf Mardorf writes:
>> > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
>> > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warni
> acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is
> > apparently unusable with such an X driver.
> >
> > Goodbye, GNOME. Hello, XFCE. I hope Debian will make XFCE the
> > default desktop for the production jessie installer.
>
> You c
On 12/06/2013 02:44 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 14:04 -0800, Gary Roach wrote:
After reading through this topic I find myself ask what happened to KDE.
I know its old and is probably bloated. But, with 500 GB of disk space,
4GB of RAM and a 4 processor CPU, who cares. Its solid
On Friday, December 06, 2013 05:04:49 PM Gary Roach wrote:
> On 12/06/2013 01:56 AM, Reco wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:35:30AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
> with acroread (on start):
>
> (acroread:30504): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in
> module_path:
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 14:04 -0800, Gary Roach wrote:
> After reading through this topic I find myself ask what happened to KDE.
> I know its old and is probably bloated. But, with 500 GB of disk space,
> 4GB of RAM and a 4 processor CPU, who cares. Its solid. I like it and
> have never liked Gno
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 14:04:49 -0800
Gary Roach wrote:
> >
> After reading through this topic I find myself ask what happened to
> KDE. I know its old and is probably bloated. But, with 500 GB of disk
> space, 4GB of RAM and a 4 processor CPU, who cares. Its solid. I like
> it and have never liked
On 12/06/2013 01:56 AM, Reco wrote:
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:35:30AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
with acroread (on start):
(acroread:30504): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in
module_path: "xfce",
The acroread needs i386 libraries from gtk2-engines-xfce package.
If I try to i
On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:57:55 +0200
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 06 dec 13, 08:20:56, Joe wrote:
> >
> > I had used the fallback mode, but I then wandered off and tried Xfce
> > and LXDE, and stayed with the latter. It's a pig to get the Debian
> > menu to display on LXDE, if you use that, and I
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 19:40 +, Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:54:28 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>
> > I'm sorry, I can't contribute more to this thread, since I already
> > pointed everything out.
> >
>
> OK, that's a good one.
And it's meant with a ";)". But I really thought it won
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:54:28 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I'm sorry, I can't contribute more to this thread, since I already
> pointed everything out.
>
OK, that's a good one.
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On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 17:19 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
> That does not mean that I am against graphic output. Ralf's sound
> samples and my graphs and icons are graphical objects. With you can
> have several terminals and copy and paste text among each other.
>
> What I don't like is the posit
On Thu 05 Dec 2013 at 18:24:13 -0500, Bo Lan wrote:
> Although I am not sure if XFCE or LXDE is good or bad, I am kind of
> agree with your opinion about the usability under such an free X driver.
> According to Debian's policy, Debian is an organization that highly
> respects completely free soft
Reco writes:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:54:43AM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
> > Ralf Mardorf writes:
> > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings
Ralf Mardorf writes:
> On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 11:54 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
> > Ralf Mardorf writes:
> > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:54:43AM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf writes:
> > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings,
> > >
> > > I disagree.
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 11:54 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf writes:
> > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings,
> > >
> > > I disagree. My .xse
Ralf Mardorf writes:
> On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings,
> >
> > I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings.
>
> What DE do you u
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:26 +0400, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 12:17:20PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > >
> > >
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 11:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:23 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > I just stay clear of anything that's linked against
> > libgconf.so.
>
> The real issues are caused by libdconf, libgconf is quasi obsolet. I
> already must install libdconf for audio producti
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 12:17 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > > > Very likely that
> > > > even GNOME doesn't continue using GTK
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 12:17:20PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > > > This are not Xfce, KDE
> > > > etc. bugs and they are
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:12:37AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings.
>
> What DE do you use? It's new to me that there aren't those issues
> outside GNOME. There's nothing the other DEs
On Vi, 06 dec 13, 11:12:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > > This are not Xfce, KDE
> > > etc. bugs and they are also not Debian related, this is caused by
> > > GTK/GNOME upstream's ignora
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings,
>
> I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings.
What DE do you use? It's new to me that there aren't those
Le 06/12/2013 10:52, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
> On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 10:35 +0100, François Patte wrote:
>> Le 06/12/2013 09:51, Reco a écrit :
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings,
I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings.
> but GTK also does
> cause really serious issues, if you e.g. launch a GNOME editor with root
> privileges, th
On Vi, 06 dec 13, 12:29:14, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> >
> > Maybe there's a wiki page on the topic? If not, maybe we could start one?
>
> Or debian-ot@... :)
Why off-topic? This is Debian related.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Offtopic discussions among Debia
On Vi, 06 dec 13, 08:20:56, Joe wrote:
>
> I had used the fallback mode, but I then wandered off and tried Xfce
> and LXDE, and stayed with the latter. It's a pig to get the Debian menu
> to display on LXDE, if you use that, and I don't know if Xfce has the
> same trouble.
I seem to recall you me
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:35:30AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
> >> with acroread (on start):
> >>
> >> (acroread:30504): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in
> >> module_path: "xfce",
> >
> > The acroread needs i386 libraries from gtk2-engines-xfce package.
>
> If I try to install t
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 10:35 +0100, François Patte wrote:
> Le 06/12/2013 09:51, Reco a écrit :
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
> >> It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the
> >> choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I
Le 06/12/2013 09:51, Reco a écrit :
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
>> It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the
>> choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I use terminals and cli to
>> launch my stuff, there are a lot of warn
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 12:51 +0400, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
> > It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the
> > choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I use terminals and cli to
> > launch my stuff, there are
Hi.
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 09:39:03AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
> It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the
> choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I use terminals and cli to
> launch my stuff, there are a lot of warnings, for instance:
>
> when I quit evince:
parently unusable with such an X driver.
>
> Goodbye, GNOME. Hello, XFCE. I hope Debian will make XFCE the
> default desktop for the production jessie installer.
It could a nice choice, but there are many things to fix! I made the
choice of xfce at my wheezy install and as I use terminals an
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:13:04 -0500 (EST)
Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:01:37 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will
> > be my DE for a while, but I'm already testing Razor-Qt. It's not
> > that good at the momen
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:07:44 -0500 (EST), Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> ...
>> I hope Debian will make XFCE the
>> default desktop for the production jessie installer.
>
> It is for the time being.
>
> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.g
On 12/6/13, Rick Thomas wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
>> You could do what I did with my install of Wheezy 64-bit (Replacing
>> Fedora 12): Abandon the desktop "environment" entirely, and just use a
>> full-featured window manager and a few utilities. I found Openb
On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> You could do what I did with my install of Wheezy 64-bit (Replacing
> Fedora 12): Abandon the desktop "environment" entirely, and just use a
> full-featured window manager and a few utilities. I found Openbox with
> LXPanel works just fine. L
y unusable with such an X driver.
>
> Goodbye, GNOME. Hello, XFCE. I hope Debian will make XFCE the
> default desktop for the production jessie installer.
You could do what I did with my install of Wheezy 64-bit (Replacing
Fedora 12): Abandon the desktop "environment" entirely
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 18:24 -0500, Bo Lan wrote:
> I am still a new user, and don't know if we can report a bug to Debian
> to say that, GNOME SHELL or Foo Desktop Environment is not usable under
> 2D free video card driver or such. Actually, I hope Debian can patch
> those DE, free drivers, and so
t; apparently unusable with such an X driver.
>
> Goodbye, GNOME. Hello, XFCE. I hope Debian will make XFCE the
> default desktop for the production jessie installer.
>
> --
> .''`. Stephen Powell
> : :' :
> `. `'`
>`-
>
>
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:13 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:01:37 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will be my
> > DE for a while, but I'm already testing Razor-Qt. It's not that good at
> > the moment, but
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:01:37 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will be my
> DE for a while, but I'm already testing Razor-Qt. It's not that good at
> the moment, but since LXDE is similar ok as Xfce is, it might be
> interesting to w
> apparently unusable with such an X driver.
>
> Goodbye, GNOME. Hello, XFCE. I hope Debian will make XFCE the
> default desktop for the production jessie installer.
It is for the time being.
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.git;a=commit;h=dfca406eb694e0ac00ea04b1
t; apparently unusable with such an X driver.
>
> Goodbye, GNOME. Hello, XFCE. I hope Debian will make XFCE the
> default desktop for the production jessie installer.
All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will be my
DE for a while, but I'm already testing R
Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently
no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D
acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is
apparently unusable with such an X driver.
Goodbye, GNOME. Hello, XFCE.
FS partition.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I *believe* how goodbye-microsoft works
> is that it installs a very minimal debian-installer OS (just enough to
> boot the installer) in a file in Windows (just like how Wubi would
> install all of Ubuntu in one file, but smaller).
On 6/3/13, Kailash Kalyani wrote:
> I tried the install a couple of days ago on my laptop. I got an offer to
> resize
> my windows partition. Can't recall getting an option to install inside the
> NTFS partition.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I *believe* how goodbye-micr
ioning needed.
>
> That was not the case for me. I was offered to resize the ntfs
> partition to make room for the Debian partition but there was no option
> to "install within a file inside the ntfs partition".
>
> I remember hearing of such an install method, b
ize the ntfs
partition to make room for the Debian partition but there was no option
to "install within a file inside the ntfs partition".
I remember hearing of such an install method, but AFAIK it was not the
one offered by the goodbye-microsoft thingy. And it stands to reason:
you wouldn&#
Mark Allums writes:
> If you get root on it, you can use it like any *nix machine. Getting
> root is the hard part. I will not assist in this, because it is now
> illegal to root tablets in the US that were not already pwned before Jan
> 1, 2013.
Richard Owlett writes:
> Can you support that bro
Mark Allums wrote:
From: Richard Owlett
Carl Fink wrote:
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:04:20PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
All things considered, everything went quite smoothly.
Cool. Now if only there was an equivalent "goodbye-android.com" for my
tablet ...
AGREED. I bought
> From: Richard Owlett
> Carl Fink wrote:
> > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:04:20PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> >> All things considered, everything went quite smoothly.
> >
> > Cool. Now if only there was an equivalent "goodbye-android.com" f
Carl Fink wrote:
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:04:20PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
All things considered, everything went quite smoothly.
Cool. Now if only there was an equivalent "goodbye-android.com" for my
tablet ...
AGREED. I bought an Android Tablet {Lenovo A2107A-F}
thin
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:04:20PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> All things considered, everything went quite smoothly.
Cool. Now if only there was an equivalent "goodbye-android.com" for my
tablet ...
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Re
"install" link on the goodbye-microsoft.com web
site, win32-loader, initrd, and some grub related files are downloaded
and stored in a folder on Windows' C:. Running win32-loader (from the
Windows Desktop) sets up the system to install Debian. A reboot and
choosing "continue
On Sb, 11 mai 13, 22:30:37, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> The reviews I read said the same or similar, but an Aussie tech
> magazine from 2007 said that after the standard installer starts,
> Debian is installed as a single file on the Windows partition--no
> partitioning needed.
I've done a few win3
On Sun, 12 May 2013, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 09:07:36PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > Been reading about this install method, but can't find anything more
> > current than about 4 or 5 years ago. It seems that "goodbye"
> > installs Debia
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 09:07:36PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Been reading about this install method, but can't find anything more
> current than about 4 or 5 years ago. It seems that "goodbye" installs
> Debian onto Windows' C: drive as a single large file, and t
Been reading about this install method, but can't find anything more
current than about 4 or 5 years ago. It seems that "goodbye" installs
Debian onto Windows' C: drive as a single large file, and that is where
it is run from.
Has anyone use it more recently? I want
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:00:27PM -0400, Hal Vaughan was
heard to say:
> Also, by the time I started using Java, I had learned that many times
> when I write something, I'm revisiting later and have forgotten it, so
> making sure my Javadoc comments were clear enough that I wouldn't have
>
>Given the ghastliness of maintaining Perl code
I've had to maintain perl code at work, so you have my sympathies.
But in Perl's defense, it's not a necessary characteristic of Perl to
be hard to maintain. It's just the inherent flexibility of the
language that makes it easier to write "Write On
Thus spoke Master Foo:
>Uncommented code can be a nightmare in ANY language!
and Nubi was enlightened.
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On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
Hi,
2009/6/25 明覺 :
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this m
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
> Hi,
> 2009/6/25 明覺 :
> > I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> > anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> > debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> > at
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:08:34AM -0500, Allen Meyers wrote:
> I have not followed this thread and getting in only at the end but it
> caught my attention simply because I left Ubuntu for the very same
> reason, but my ire was directed towards the idiots not the experienced
> users.
> I have tried
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Daryl Styrk wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
>> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
>> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
>> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debi
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> attraction to me anymore, I will stop using i
Hi,
2009/6/25 明覺 :
> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
> As I have decalared
明覺 wrote:
> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
> As I have decalared, I will
明覺 wrote:
> As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
> "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
> Good bye! :)
Good luck!
It really is a shame that apparently no one stepped in to help you
reprogram a great part of the debian archives in c/c++. To some
estimations that's jus
Am 2009-06-25 04:26:53, schrieb Oliver Schneider:
> > As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
> > "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
> However, I hope the one language isn't assembler. I really can't
> imagine shell scripting that way - well, if you take "Only One
> Pro
> As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
> "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
However, I hope the one language isn't assembler. I really can't imagine shell
scripting that way - well, if you take "Only One Programming Lanuguage" serious
that is ... ;)
> Good bye! :)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Adriano
Trentini wrote:
> Goodbye, Mr. Shi.
> However, I always received many help from debian users.
>
> --- Em qua, 24/6/09, 明覺 escreveu:
>
> De: 明覺
> Assunto: Goodbye debian
> Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Data: Quarta-feira,
Goodbye, Mr. Shi.
However, I always received many help from debian users.
--- Em qua, 24/6/09, 明覺 escreveu:
De: 明覺
Assunto: Goodbye debian
Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Data: Quarta-feira, 24 de Junho de 2009, 21:26
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore
th a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
>
>
Pleas, don't leaveee!
We need you to enlighten our list!
(Sorry, but I needed to do that)
Goodbye Shi Min Jue.
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I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
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debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and
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On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 01:21:50PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Yuriy Kuznetsov wrote:
> > This link appeared on gmail page. Kind of Micro$oft about Micro$oft
> > propaganda. Nice one ;o)
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/getthefacts/default.mspx
>
> And I knew for sure: that airlin
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> propaganda. Nice one ;o)
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/getthefacts/default.mspx
And I knew for sure: that airline went bankrupt...
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 07:15:14PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
> I am on "my own" machine and I am able to write to local drives. I've
> successfully installed Opera, but I can't install Openoffice (because
> that requires root -- oops, "administrator" privileges) nor cygqin
> (because its can't go throu
I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
> certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
> administered Debian box to a locked-up, preinstalled all-M$ Dell thing.
> M$ Office, M$IE, Lotus Notes 6 (soon to be migrated to Outlook Express
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 07:15:14PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:57:30AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
> > portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
> > faster that way, in fact, at the unive
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 07:18:38AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Coporate IT is driven by sweetheart deals from suppliers to IT
> management. It is full of fiefdoms and "not invented here" syndromes.
> It is a meca to the power hungry and the control freaks. It has little
> to do with helping th
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:57:30AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
> portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
> faster that way, in fact, at the university I copy portable firefox to
> the machine I'm sitting at an
On 27/02/2008, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Of course I read Dilbert. And I am full aware of the corporate IT
> > environment. But I'm still 30-young and think that I can change the
> > world by trying. I'm so naive that I encourage others to do the same.
> > I know that I'm doo
Dan H. wrote:
I know cygwin, and it is on my to-be-installed list. I can't live
without find and grep and xargs and... well, a lot of good grep will
do me in a world full of Word documents.. ;-)
There was a .DOC to text filter prog, Antiword that could be used in a
pipe with grep ;)
--
Jami
* Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Feb 26 08:00 -0600]:
> Of course I read Dilbert. And I am full aware of the corporate IT
> environment. But I'm still 30-young and think that I can change the
> world by trying. I'm so naive that I encourage others to do the same.
> I know that I'm doomed to
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:22:31AM -0600, Chuck Rhode wrote:
> By my count that six arguments anti to two pro. IT wins!
...in the context of duplicating processes which are mission-critical
and/or changing the location of sensitive data.
Most of those anti arguments don't really apply to such th
Dotan Cohen wrote this on Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:53:51PM +0200. My
reply is below.
> If using a portable app makes no permanent changes to the machine,
> why should it not be allowed?
This is the old, old End-User Programming argument, isn't it?
... so let's say you are a clerk (flunky) who kn
On 26/02/2008, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> *** Major snip ***
>
> > I'm setting an example.
>
>
> Let's not break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.
>
> More people then you think are doing the same thing you claim to be
> doing - thus, you are NOT setting an ex
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 08:34:23AM -0600, Chris wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> *** Major snip ***
> >I'm setting an example.
>
> Let's not break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.
>
> More people then you think are doing the same thing you claim to be
> doing - thus, you are NOT setting an ex
On 26/02/2008, Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:54:06PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >
> > My attitude has gotten my university and my local green club to send
> > documents in PDF instead of Word, and I write to sites that do not
> > display prop
Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Additionally, they can see that running these programs are important
> to the user. Remember, IT is there to HELP the user do what he needs,
> not prevent him from doing what he needs.
In a perfect world, perhaps.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:54:06PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
[...]
>
> My attitude has gotten my university and my local green club to send
> documents in PDF instead of Word, and I write to sites that do not
> display properly in Firefox. I write to software houses (Adobe)
> requesting they port
On Tuesday 26 February 2008 06:38:31 am Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Coporate IT is driven by sweetheart deals from suppliers to IT
> > management. It is full of fiefdoms and "not invented here" syndromes.
> > It is
Dotan Cohen wrote:
*** Major snip ***
I'm setting an example.
Let's not break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.
More people then you think are doing the same thing you claim to be
doing - thus, you are NOT setting an example.
You're not that important to claim such a remark/comment.
On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Additionally, they can see that running these programs are important
> > to the user. Remember, IT is there to HELP the user do what he needs,
> > not prevent him from doing what he needs.
>
> In a perfect world, perhaps. In real life,
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Coporate IT is driven by sweetheart deals from suppliers to IT
> management. It is full of fiefdoms and "not invented here" syndromes.
> It is a meca to the power hungry and the control freaks. It has little
> to do
* Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Feb 26 06:59 -0600]:
> On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
> > > portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
> > > faster that way, in fact, at
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