On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:00:27PM -0400, Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com was
heard to say:
Also, by the time I started using Java, I had learned that many times
when I write something, I'm revisiting later and have forgotten it, so
making sure my Javadoc comments were clear enough that I
Given the ghastliness of maintaining Perl code
I've had to maintain perl code at work, so you have my sympathies.
But in Perl's defense, it's not a necessary characteristic of Perl to
be hard to maintain. It's just the inherent flexibility of the
language that makes it easier to write Write
Am 2009-06-25 04:26:53, schrieb Oliver Schneider:
As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
Only One Programming Lanuguage way.
However, I hope the one language isn't assembler. I really can't
imagine shell scripting that way - well, if you take Only One
Programming
明覺 wrote:
As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
Only One Programming Lanuguage way.
Good bye! :)
Good luck!
It really is a shame that apparently no one stepped in to help you
reprogram a great part of the debian archives in c/c++. To some
estimations that's just
明覺 wrote:
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
As I have decalared, I will
Hi,
2009/6/25 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
As
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Daryl Styrkdarylst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this mailing
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:08:34AM -0500, Allen Meyers wrote:
I have not followed this thread and getting in only at the end but it
caught my attention simply because I left Ubuntu for the very same
reason, but my ire was directed towards the idiots not the experienced
users.
I have tried 6
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
Hi,
2009/6/25 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian
On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
Hi,
2009/6/25 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian
Thus spoke Master Foo:
Uncommented code can be a nightmare in ANY language!
and Nubi was enlightened.
--
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =.
b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_))
ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-'
http://iguanasuicide.net/
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and
2009/6/24 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
As I
Goodbye, Mr. Shi.
However, I always received many help from debian users.
--- Em qua, 24/6/09, 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com escreveu:
De: 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com
Assunto: Goodbye debian
Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Data: Quarta-feira, 24 de Junho de 2009, 21:26
I do not have time to read your
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Adriano
Trentiniadriano_trent...@yahoo.com.br wrote:
Goodbye, Mr. Shi.
However, I always received many help from debian users.
--- Em qua, 24/6/09, 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com escreveu:
De: 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com
Assunto: Goodbye debian
Para: debian-user
As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
Only One Programming Lanuguage way.
However, I hope the one language isn't assembler. I really can't imagine shell
scripting that way - well, if you take Only One Programming Lanuguage serious
that is ... ;)
Good bye! :)
Bye,
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Yuriy Kuznetsov wrote:
This link appeared on gmail page. Kind of Micro$oft about Micro$oft
propaganda. Nice one ;o)
http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/getthefacts/default.mspx
And I knew for sure: that airline went bankrupt...
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On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 01:21:50PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Yuriy Kuznetsov wrote:
This link appeared on gmail page. Kind of Micro$oft about Micro$oft
propaganda. Nice one ;o)
http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/getthefacts/default.mspx
And I knew for sure: that airline went
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 07:15:14PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
I am on my own machine and I am able to write to local drives. I've
successfully installed Opera, but I can't install Openoffice (because
that requires root -- oops, administrator privileges) nor cygqin
(because its can't go through a
On 27/02/2008, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course I read Dilbert. And I am full aware of the corporate IT
environment. But I'm still 30-young and think that I can change the
world by trying. I'm so naive that I encourage others to do the same.
I know that I'm doomed to
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:57:30AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
faster that way, in fact, at the university I copy portable firefox to
the machine I'm sitting at and
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 07:18:38AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
Coporate IT is driven by sweetheart deals from suppliers to IT
management. It is full of fiefdoms and not invented here syndromes.
It is a meca to the power hungry and the control freaks. It has little
to do with helping the
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 07:15:14PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:57:30AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
faster that way, in fact, at the university
actually opera does have tabs (since before firefox) and does have a wand
which remembers passwords. Before firefox, i used it as
the best alternate to explorer when I have to use a windows machine. But why
not load firefox? If you got opera on, firefox should be doable. If loading
is an issue,
* Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Feb 25 19:03 -0600]:
Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
faster that way, in fact, at the university I copy portable firefox to
the machine I'm sitting at and
On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
faster that way, in fact, at the university I copy portable firefox to
the machine I'm sitting at and
* Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Feb 26 06:59 -0600]:
On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
faster that way, in fact, at the
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Coporate IT is driven by sweetheart deals from suppliers to IT
management. It is full of fiefdoms and not invented here syndromes.
It is a meca to the power hungry and the control freaks. It has little
to do with
On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Additionally, they can see that running these programs are important
to the user. Remember, IT is there to HELP the user do what he needs,
not prevent him from doing what he needs.
In a perfect world, perhaps. In real life, not so
On Tuesday 26 February 2008 06:38:31 am Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Coporate IT is driven by sweetheart deals from suppliers to IT
management. It is full of fiefdoms and not invented here syndromes.
It is a meca to
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:54:06PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
[...]
My attitude has gotten my university and my local green club to send
documents in PDF instead of Word, and I write to sites that do not
display properly in Firefox. I write to software houses (Adobe)
requesting they port to
Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Additionally, they can see that running these programs are important
to the user. Remember, IT is there to HELP the user do what he needs,
not prevent him from doing what he needs.
In a perfect world, perhaps. In
Dotan Cohen wrote:
*** Major snip ***
I'm setting an example.
Let's not break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.
More people then you think are doing the same thing you claim to be
doing - thus, you are NOT setting an example.
You're not that important to claim such a remark/comment.
On 26/02/2008, Richard Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:54:06PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
[...]
My attitude has gotten my university and my local green club to send
documents in PDF instead of Word, and I write to sites that do not
display properly in
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 08:34:23AM -0600, Chris wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote:
*** Major snip ***
I'm setting an example.
Let's not break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.
More people then you think are doing the same thing you claim to be
doing - thus, you are NOT setting an example.
On 26/02/2008, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote:
*** Major snip ***
I'm setting an example.
Let's not break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.
More people then you think are doing the same thing you claim to be
doing - thus, you are NOT setting an example.
Dotan Cohen wrote this on Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:53:51PM +0200. My
reply is below.
If using a portable app makes no permanent changes to the machine,
why should it not be allowed?
This is the old, old End-User Programming argument, isn't it?
... so let's say you are a clerk (flunky) who
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:22:31AM -0600, Chuck Rhode wrote:
By my count that six arguments anti to two pro. IT wins!
...in the context of duplicating processes which are mission-critical
and/or changing the location of sensitive data.
Most of those anti arguments don't really apply to such
* Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Feb 26 08:00 -0600]:
Of course I read Dilbert. And I am full aware of the corporate IT
environment. But I'm still 30-young and think that I can change the
world by trying. I'm so naive that I encourage others to do the same.
I know that I'm doomed to the
Dan H. wrote:
I know cygwin, and it is on my to-be-installed list. I can't live
without find and grep and xargs and... well, a lot of good grep will
do me in a world full of Word documents.. ;-)
There was a .DOC to text filter prog, Antiword that could be used in a
pipe with grep ;)
--
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 04:12:31PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
Boy, what a piece of crap. It boggles the mind. This is how the world's
office workers get their work done? Or do they?
It seems implausible, doesn't it?
I used to be fairly efficent on Windows, but it took a lot of tweaking.
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On 02/25/08 05:22, Misko wrote:
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 04:12:31PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
Boy, what a piece of crap. It boggles the mind. This is how the world's
office workers get their work done? Or do they?
It seems implausible, doesn't
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:22:58PM +0100, Misko wrote:
Now that MS is going open source (it was on evening national TV news in my
country) things are surely going to be better :)
As mentioned news was not very clear can somebody explain what did
MS actually made available? Is it source code or
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 04:18:03PM -0600, Elf Dmitryi wrote:
Here's a couple things...
http://mcnlive.org/ - MCN Live, a live CD that can also be installed on
a flash drive. There's Knoppix, too. http://www.knopper.de
http://www.sysresccd.org/ - another live CD that can edit Windows NT
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 07:15:27AM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
Well, you have just begun. Wait till you experience the real horrors of
windows, aka viruses, spyware, adware, etc, though with your unix like
browsing habits, you may be less prone to be fooled by malware sites.
Yeah,
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 09:15:47PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
Remember everything you've noted when the Microsofties remind you that
Linux is not ready for the desktop.
I must admit though that I was pretty annoyed when my wife wanted to use
sound on our home Debian box and it took me quite
Portable Apps allow running everything off the flash drive and have the
app/user data saved on the flash drive, too. So basically it's what it
says - e. g. Firefox is portable on a flash drive with all the
bookmarks, history and settings. A properly set-up flash drive with all
the portable apps
This link appeared on gmail page. Kind of Micro$oft about Micro$oft
propaganda. Nice one ;o)
http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/getthefacts/default.mspx
Dan H. wrote:
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 09:15:47PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
Remember everything you've noted when the Microsofties remind you that
Linux is not ready for the desktop.
I must admit though that I was pretty annoyed when my wife wanted to use
sound on our home Debian box and
On 25/02/2008, Elf Dmitryi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Portable Apps allow running everything off the flash drive and have the
app/user data saved on the flash drive, too. So basically it's what it
says - e. g. Firefox is portable on a flash drive with all the
bookmarks, history and settings.
Dan H. wrote:
Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
administered Debian box to a locked-up, preinstalled all-M$ Dell thing.
M$
I can't live without find and grep and xargs and ...
well, a lot of good grep will do me in a world
full of Word documents.. ;-)
Haven't tried Windows Grep myself,
but it might at least be worth a look
http://www.wingrep.com/
--
Stanley C. Kitching
Human Being
Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
administered Debian box to a locked-up, preinstalled all-M$ Dell thing.
M$ Office, M$IE,
Here's a couple things...
http://mcnlive.org/ - MCN Live, a live CD that can also be installed on
a flash drive. There's Knoppix, too. http://www.knopper.de
http://www.sysresccd.org/ - another live CD that can edit Windows NT
passwords.
http://portableapps.com/ has a collection of Firefox,
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:52:00PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
administered Debian box to a
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Dan H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
administered Debian
Dan H. wrote:
Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
administered Debian box to a locked-up, preinstalled all-M$ Dell thing.
M$
* Dan H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Feb 24 15:57 -0600]:
WTF? Am I missing something here?
Nope. You're right on the mark.
Remember everything you've noted when the Microsofties remind you that
Linux is not ready for the desktop.
- Nate
P.S. Sounds like you went to work for the company I work
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