Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-12 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 17:19 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 12 November 2016 15:45:28 Brian wrote: > > The behaviour of your aptitude is presumably because you have adjusted > > the default behaviour in some way. The new behaviour is not a bug. > > No, I haven't. This is a temporary

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 12 November 2016 15:45:28 Brian wrote: > The behaviour of your aptitude is presumably because you have adjusted > the default behaviour in some way. The new behaviour is not a bug. No, I haven't. This is a temporary machine, which I have not been using long. I have adjusted very

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-12 Thread Brian
On Sat 12 Nov 2016 at 13:45:38 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 11 November 2016 21:58:58 Brian wrote: > > Not installing a recommended package on a default Debian would be a bug. > > Aptitude on my current almost vanilla temporary Jessie install doesn't > install > recommends. But it

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 11 November 2016 21:58:58 Brian wrote: > Not installing a recommended package on a default Debian would be a bug. Aptitude on my current almost vanilla temporary Jessie install doesn't install recommends. But it makes a big point of telling me a) that they are recommended and b) that

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 16:45:40 (-0800), Joseph Loo wrote: > On 11/11/2016 04:39 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:36:15 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Friday, November 11, 2016 04:58:41 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >>> Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : >

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Joseph Loo
On 11/11/2016 04:39 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:36:15 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Friday, November 11, 2016 04:58:41 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote: >>> Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:36:15 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, November 11, 2016 04:58:41 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > > > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > > > ones in one of the primary partitions.

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Felix Miata
rhkra...@gmail.com composed on 2016-11-11 18:36 (UTC-0500): Pascal Hambourg wrote: Thomas Schmitt composed: > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > ones in one of the primary partitions. Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited. Ok, just to be

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, November 11, 2016 04:58:41 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > > ones in one of the primary partitions. > > Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited. Ok, just to be

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 23:22:36 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > > > ones in one of the primary partitions. > > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited. > > You are

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > > ones in one of the primary partitions. Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited. You are right. Must have been some mislead memory from old experience with partitioning

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 20:18:59 (+), Brian wrote: > On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 20:53:17 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > > Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > > > Any reference. You see, I find label a very slippery word. > > > You can label a disk at almost every level: a

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical ones in one of the primary partitions. Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited.

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 15:03:57 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > The problem was missing mtools. When I had used Synaptic to install Gparted > it had pulled in dostools but not mtools. Is that a "bug" or "annoyance"? Not installing a recommended package on a default Debian would be a bug. Not

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/11/2016 9:38 PM, Doug wrote: /snip/ Gparted needs external software to enable some features. According to , mtools is required to change the label on a FAT filesystem. I wonder if there is a LIVE disk that includes the various external

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Doug
/snip/ Gparted needs external software to enable some features. According to , mtools is required to change the label on a FAT filesystem. I wonder if there is a LIVE disk that includes the various external software files? It would be handy to have

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > So I'm unsure what you mean by a partition label, where it's > stored, and how it differs from a filesystem label. See "Partition name (36 UTF-16LE code units)" in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Partition_entries This describes the GPT partition

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/11/2016 1:51 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 11/11/2016 09:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Several years ago I purchased an external 1 TB USB connected drive for backups. The base of the enclosure says it is a Seagate drive. Partitions: #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/11/2016 7:30 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/11/2016 01:07 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/11/2016 à 16:47, Richard Owlett a écrit : Partitions: #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Doug
On 11/11/2016 01:42 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 19:30:51 -0600, Doug wrote: On 11/11/2016 01:07 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: /snip/ Gparted needs external software to enable some features. According to , mtools is required to change

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 14:45:16 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 11/11/2016 1:22 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:59:29 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: > >>Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, Brian a écrit : > >>>gparted for labelling a partition is overkill. Use dosfslabel. > >>

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/11/2016 1:22 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:59:29 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, Brian a écrit : gparted for labelling a partition is overkill. Use dosfslabel. dosfslabel label will not label a partition, it will label a filesystem.

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/11/2016 11:57 AM, Brian wrote: On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 09:47:40 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Several years ago I purchased an external 1 TB USB connected drive for backups. The base of the enclosure says it is a Seagate drive. Partitions: #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 20:53:17 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > > Any reference. You see, I find label a very slippery word. > > You can label a disk at almost every level: a sticky label, > > True, but not really relevant. > > > a

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 13:51:41 -0600, Michael Milliman wrote: > On 11/11/2016 09:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >Several years ago I purchased an external 1 TB USB connected drive for > >backups. > >The base of the enclosure says it is a Seagate drive. > >Partitions: > > #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > Any reference. You see, I find label a very slippery word. > You can label a disk at almost every level: a sticky label, True, but not really relevant. > a disklabel (partition table), This is BSD slang. But this was what I was

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Seeker
On 11/11/2016 5:30 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/11/2016 01:07 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/11/2016 à 16:47, Richard Owlett a écrit : Partitions: #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Michael Milliman
On 11/11/2016 09:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Several years ago I purchased an external 1 TB USB connected drive for backups. The base of the enclosure says it is a Seagate drive. Partitions: #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" #2 is extended partition for

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 20:32:52 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > > Does a partition have a label? > > Yes, depending on the partition scheme. Any reference. You see, I find label a very slippery word. You can label a disk at almost every

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 19:30:51 -0600, Doug wrote: > > On 11/11/2016 01:07 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >Le 11/11/2016 à 16:47, Richard Owlett a écrit : > >>Partitions: > >> #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" > >> #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive >

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > Does a partition have a label? Yes, depending on the partition scheme. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Doug
On 11/11/2016 01:07 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/11/2016 à 16:47, Richard Owlett a écrit : Partitions: #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB used] with no label (...) I

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:59:29 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, Brian a écrit : > > gparted for labelling a partition is overkill. Use dosfslabel. > > dosfslabel label will not label a partition, it will label a filesystem. Does a partition have a label?

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 20:07:24 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 11/11/2016 à 16:47, Richard Owlett a écrit : > >Partitions: > > #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" > > #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive > > #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB used] with

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:52:06 + Brian wrote: > On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 21:33:58 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > As for the original problem - gparted is a GNOME application, so it's > > expected to silently refuse doing potentially dangerous operations. > > And yet

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/11/2016 à 16:47, Richard Owlett a écrit : Partitions: #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB used] with no label (...) I attempted to label partition 5 with Gparted, but the

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 21:33:58 +0300, Reco wrote: > As for the original problem - gparted is a GNOME application, so it's > expected to silently refuse doing potentially dangerous operations. And yet gparted(8) and the manual at http://gparted.org/display-doc.php%3Fname%3Dhelp-manual

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:59:29 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, Brian a écrit : > > gparted for labelling a partition is overkill. Use dosfslabel. > > dosfslabel label will not label a partition, it will label a filesystem. gparted

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, Brian a écrit : > gparted for labelling a partition is overkill. Use dosfslabel. dosfslabel label will not label a partition, it will label a filesystem. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 09:47:40 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Several years ago I purchased an external 1 TB USB connected drive for > backups. > The base of the enclosure says it is a Seagate drive. > Partitions: > #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" > #2 is