Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-22 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:59:33 -0400, Celejar posted: [...edit just to save bandwidth] But this equivalence between insecure systems and those likely to fall victim to an accidental rm -rf / breaks down for the above case, since accidents become much less likely, but a virus can still do

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-21 Thread Thorny
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:09:13 +, Avi Greenbury posted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus#Threats Good grief, since when has wikipedia become the ultimate resource. Do you notice how many of the references are to anti-virus labs, who have a vested interest in selling software?

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-21 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:57:50 +0800, 明覺 posted: you are right, it should not be a viruses, maybe it's because my harddisk is broken, how to check my harddisk? now I have installed a new system on it and it is working fine now, but I'm afraid it will be broken suddenly again after a few days,

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-21 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:58:13 -0700 Thorny thorntreeh...@gmail.com wrote: ... Naturally any of this is opinion on both sides. It isn't really possible for me to give data that shows something doesn't exist. And, you have no reason to believe me or anyone else but will you please review this

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-20 Thread Thorny
[T] A simple answer is that Linux virus exist as a proof-of-concept, there aren't any in the wild. If you think about it, there isn't a mechanism for propagation. You don't run as root do you? You can find out lots more about the concept with your favourite search engine. [C] While they

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-20 Thread Thorny
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:37:56 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. posted: While they have been seen in the wild, ... Please cite examples and/or documentation so I may learn. I know from your other posts that you give good advice but I am not willing to accept this statement on that basis. -- To

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-20 Thread Avi Greenbury
Thorny wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:37:56 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. posted: While they have been seen in the wild, ... Please cite examples and/or documentation so I may learn. I know from your other posts that you give good advice but I am not willing to accept this statement on that

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-20 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:51:53 -0700 Thorny thorntreeh...@gmail.com wrote: [T] A simple answer is that Linux virus exist as a proof-of-concept, there aren't any in the wild. If you think about it, there isn't a mechanism for propagation. You don't run as root do you? You can find out

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-20 Thread Alex Infantes
On Jueves 19 Marzo 2009 01:01:04 明覺 escribió: It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i restarted my machine, it ccould not shutdown for it said it's a readonly file system. then i pressed reset to force

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread David Fox
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:01 PM, 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote: It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i restarted my I had a box that would frequently not be able to find its boot disks, got error 17s

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Thorny
It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i restarted my machine, it ccould not shutdown for it said it's a readonly file system. then i pressed reset to force it restart, then it stopped at grup

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread 明覺
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Thorny thorntreeh...@gmail.com wrote: It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i restarted my machine, it ccould not shutdown for it said it's a readonly file system.

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Thorny
[...] If it's not a virus, why my computer suddenly become broken, I do not understand, i guess it should be a virus. A simple answer is that Linux virus exist as a proof-of-concept, there aren't any in the wild. If you think about it, there isn't a mechanism for propagation. You don't run as

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Jochen Schulz
明覺: It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. What's in /var/log/syslog? then i restarted my machine, it ccould not shutdown for it said it's a readonly file system. then i pressed reset to force it

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Bob Cox
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 16:42:07 +0800, 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Thorny thorntreeh...@gmail.com wrote: It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:50:29 -0700 Thorny thorntreeh...@gmail.com wrote: ... A simple answer is that Linux virus exist as a proof-of-concept, there aren't any in the wild. If you think about it, there isn't a mechanism for propagation. You don't run as root do you? You can find out lots more

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread 明覺
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: 明覺: It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. What's in /var/log/syslog? I installed a new system in another partition, and use

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 6a8fced30903190142s7a96df91y4dbfcfc0649f1...@mail.gmail.com, 明覺 wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Thorny thorntreeh...@gmail.com wrote: It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i restarted my

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 6a8fced30903190657k188d6c39nfbcbbd12a284a...@mail.gmail.com, 明覺 wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: 明覺: It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i

Re: Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-19 Thread Eric Gerlach
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:57:50PM +0800, ?...@k4 wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: First: today's viruses generally don't destroy their hosts anymore. Instead, they use their host as a platform for criminal behaviour. You don't earn any

Help! Grub is broken

2009-03-18 Thread 明覺
It all happened suddenly. I was editing a file in gedit 3 minutes ago, and when I was saving it, it said readonly filesystem. then i restarted my machine, it ccould not shutdown for it said it's a readonly file system. then i pressed reset to force it restart, then it stopped at grup loading.