Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-10-02 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:18:38AM +0800, csj wrote: > At Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:09:56 +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > ISTR from http://www.ftdi.com - who make USB-to-some-easier-format > > conversion chips - the answer is 'something straightforward'. Long > > time since I looked at the site though. Chances a

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-10-02 Thread csj
At Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:09:56 +0100, Pigeon wrote: [...] > > How would Linux recognize it? What would be the modem port? > > ISTR from http://www.ftdi.com - who make USB-to-some-easier-format > conversion chips - the answer is 'something straightforward'. Long > time since I looked at the site th

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-10-01 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 28 September 2003 02:35 pm, alex wrote: > Suppose someone wants to put together or buy a computer ---something > that is fully compatible with Linux.no makedo patches such as > for winmodems or other components, etc---how can you make sure > you're getting what you want? Nobody m

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-10-01 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 06:40:07AM +0800, csj wrote: > At Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:53:43 +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > A point about USB and modems is that USB is fast enough to make it > > possible to implement an external winmodem. It may well be > > safer/cheaper to use an RS232 modem with an RS232-to-USB

Boot Knoppix (was Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?)

2003-10-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 06:23:47PM -0500, Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > alex wrote: > > >Suppose someone wants to put together or buy a computer ---something > >that is fully compatible with Linux.no makedo patches such as for > >winmodems or other components, etc---how can you mak

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-10-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 09:27:38AM +0200, Michael Schulz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > No offense, but while I find that companies like HP, Dell, IBM, and > > other major vendors are more than happy to sell servers and > > workstations with Linux, the laptop support absolutely sucks. > > You hav

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-30 Thread John Hasler
csj writes: > The only question should be the kernel version. The NDA-conscious > manufacturer could always code for the latest stable versions of the > kernel.org kernel (the plain, unpatched, official Linus Torvalds vanilla > version of Linux). True for kernel modules and the rare userland prog

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-30 Thread csj
At Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:25:01 -0400, Daniel B. wrote: > > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > > alex wrote: > > ... > > > > > Is there something that prevents manufacturers from clearly > > > stating that a product is fully suitable for Linux? It's > > > done for MS Windows. Is this some kind of legal

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-30 Thread csj
At Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:53:43 +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:11:04AM +0800, csj wrote: > > At Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:43:35 -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > > > As with most questions, ask google. There are numerous sites > > > and hardware compatability lists that have been created. It

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-30 Thread Daniel B.
Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > alex wrote: > ... > > > Is there something that prevents manufacturers from clearly stating that > > a product is fully suitable for Linux? It's done for MS Windows. Is > > this some kind of legal or technical issue, or is it some kind of > > 'business arrangement'? >

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-30 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Pigeon said on Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 02:53:43PM +0100: > A point about USB and modems is that USB is fast enough to make it > possible to implement an external winmodem. It may well be > safer/cheaper to use an RS232 modem with an RS232-to-USB converter. > (having found one of those that's supported

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-30 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:11:04AM +0800, csj wrote: > At Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:43:35 -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > > As with most questions, ask google. There are numerous sites > > and hardware compatability lists that have been created. It is > > a good idea to check the hw compatability lists first

Re: How do you know if it works in Linux?

2003-09-30 Thread David Palmer
Here are all the details. In regional Australia, we encounter problems that our city counterparts never experience. If a phone line happens to go over an electric fence and that fence gets turned on, it creates an electric field and everybody drops a connection except me. I've had one of these f

Re: How do you know if it works in Linux?

2003-09-29 Thread csj
At Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:13:45 +0800, David Palmer. wrote: > > > Quote/This will only work for expensive or really dumb products like > PS/2 keyboards. A case in point: I'm trying to google for > Linux-compatible USB modems (dialup). The only recommendations I > could find are for the ultra-expen

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux? - modems

2003-09-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, csj wrote: > PS/2 keyboards. A case in point: I'm trying to google for > Linux-compatible USB modems (dialup). The only recommendations I experience says a modem is linux compatible if it has a uart chip on it if it doesn't have uart chip on the modem card or o

Re: How do you know if it works in Linux?

2003-09-29 Thread David Palmer.
Quote/This will only work for expensive or really dumb products like PS/2 keyboards. A case in point: I'm trying to google for Linux-compatible USB modems (dialup). The only recommendations I could find are for the ultra-expensive USR modems. With one or two exceptions, I couldn't find any Linu

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-29 Thread csj
At Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:43:35 -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > > On Sunday 28 September 2003 11:35 am, alex wrote: [...] > > What are the indicators that will tell us whether the > > components are fully Linux compatible, whether they are part > > of a ready to run Windows computer, a systemless compu

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-29 Thread Michael Schulz
Hi, On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Not to shoot the messenger, but this is what I found: > > http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/products/clients/clientscert.html > > > Red Hat SuSE > laptops 7.3 7.2 7.1 8.0 7.3

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Michael Schulz wrote: we (HP) do this with Workstations, Business PCs and Laptops. You just should consult the vendors website (in our case www.hp.com/linux) to see if the system is supported (means working with Linux). Of course this isn't valid for every vendor :(. I would also like that to be s

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-28 Thread kmark
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, alex wrote: > Not exactly a Debian only topic but where else is the degree of > experience and expertise available besides this Debian list? > > Suppose someone wants to put together or buy a computer ---something > that is fully compatible with Linux.no makedo patches s

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-28 Thread Roberto Sanchez
alex wrote: Not exactly a Debian only topic but where else is the degree of experience and expertise available besides this Debian list? Suppose someone wants to put together or buy a computer ---something that is fully compatible with Linux.no makedo patches such as for winmodems or other

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-28 Thread Alvin Oga
hi alex > alex wrote: > > > Suppose someone wants to put together or buy a computer ---something > > that is fully compatible with Linux.no makedo patches such as for > > winmodems or other components, etc---how can you make sure you're > > getting what you want? experience and tak

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-28 Thread Kent West
alex wrote: Not exactly a Debian only topic but where else is the degree of experience and expertise available besides this Debian list? Suppose someone wants to put together or buy a computer ---something that is fully compatible with Linux.no makedo patches such as for winmodems or other

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-28 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 28 September 2003 11:35 am, alex wrote: > Not exactly a Debian only topic but where else is the degree of > experience and expertise available besides this Debian list? > > Suppose someone wants to put together or buy a computer ---something

Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Schulz
Hi On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 21:35, alex wrote: > Is there something that prevents manufacturers from clearly stating > that a product is fully suitable for Linux? It's done for MS > Windows. Is this some kind of legal or technical issue, or is it > some kind of 'business arrangement'? > we (H

How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

2003-09-28 Thread alex
Not exactly a Debian only topic but where else is the degree of experience and expertise available besides this Debian list? Suppose someone wants to put together or buy a computer ---something that is fully compatible with Linux.no makedo patches such as for winmodems or other components,