Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Dan B.
Tom H wrote: ... NM's only controversial because there are people who oppose change not matter why it might be. ... So are you lumping people who oppose having things break out from under them, such as, say, someone installing a new release and finding that standard Unix(?)/Linux networking com

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Dan B.
Bob Proulx wrote: Tom H wrote: Dan B. wrote: ... How does one take an interface down on squeeze? The expected tool on a GNOME system would be by using the NetworkManager GUI with the mouse or as Tom writes, 'nmcli' from the command line. Something like this: # nmcli conn down id 'Auto et

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Tom H writes: >> [main] >> plugins=ifupdown,keyfile >> >> [ifupdown] >> managed=false >> >> That does mean that ifupdown is not in charge .. right? > > No. It means that ifupdown is in charge rather than NM - as long as you > have the interfaces listed in "/etc/network/interfaces". See my pre

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:28:37 -0500, Tom H wrote: (...) > NM's only controversial because there are people who oppose change not > matter why it might be. The NM developers haven't done themselves any > favors by not providing server-type features like bonding... (...) Just a quick "okay, but...

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> NM's only controversial because there are people who oppose change not >> matter why it might be. The NM developers haven't done themselves any >> favors by not providing server-type features like bonding... No, it's also controversial for other reasons. In my case, I have issues with it becau

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Tom H wrote: > >> Dan B. wrote: > >> > On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used > >> > to (on my old Debian system). > > > > This is because by default with a GNOME desktop installed Debian has > > switched away from ifupdown and over

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Tom H writes: >> >> You can also use "nmcli" to take down and bring up your NIC. > > Can you show a usage of bringing up/down the network? > > With this in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf > > [main] > plugins=ifupdown,keyfile > > [

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> Dan B. wrote: >> > On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used >> > to (on my old Debian system). > > This is because by default with a GNOME desktop installed Debian has > switched away from ifupdown and o

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Tom H writes: > You can also use "nmcli" to take down and bring up your NIC. Can you show a usage of bringing up/down the network? With this in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main] plugins=ifupdown,keyfile [ifupdown] managed=false That does mean that ifupdown is not in cha

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > Dan B. wrote: > > On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used > > to (on my old Debian system). This is because by default with a GNOME desktop installed Debian has switched away from ifupdown and over to NetworkManager because GNOME by default specifies Netw

Re: How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-06 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Dan B. wrote: > > On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used > to (on my old Debian system). > > When ifconfig lists an interface "eth0", neither "ifdown eth0" nor > "ifdown eth" takes the interface down.  The attempts yield: >  "ifdown: int

How to "ifdown ..." on squeeze?

2011-11-06 Thread Dan B.
On a new installation of squeeze, ifdown no longer works as it used to (on my old Debian system). When ifconfig lists an interface "eth0", neither "ifdown eth0" nor "ifdown eth" takes the interface down. The attempts yield: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" and "ifdown: interface eth n