Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-23 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-07-18 12:04:35, schrieb Steve C. Lamb: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:01:31PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: I do not believe it, since I am admin a Courier-Imap Server with 73.000 users ith 2.8 million legitim messages and 8 million spams per day. And a d-u troll. I would

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-18 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-07-13 14:06:51, schrieb Steve Lamb: My apologies to Ron, I slapped reply and not reply-to-all and trim. :( Ron Johnson wrote: That's qmail's fault, not that of Maildir. No, that is a design problem in Maildir. Granted I wouldn't want my MTAs I do not believe it, since I

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-18 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:01:31PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: I do not believe it, since I am admin a Courier-Imap Server with 73.000 users ith 2.8 million legitim messages and 8 million spams per day. And a d-u troll. I would never use mbox for such stuff... and of course, a

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: Maybe it's because I keep d-u messages is semi-annual history folders so directories never get above 10,000 files, but what problems do Maildirs have? Needing to open many files instead of one? Needing to deal with that many files in any capacity, ever. I've had the

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/08 04:14, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Maybe it's because I keep d-u messages is semi-annual history folders so directories never get above 10,000 files, but what problems do Maildirs have? Needing to open many files instead of

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 08:31:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/10/08 12:38, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/09/08 13:26, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] try a different MUA? This is why IMAP should be the standard

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-13 Thread Steve Lamb
My apologies to Ron, I slapped reply and not reply-to-all and trim. :( Ron Johnson wrote: That's qmail's fault, not that of Maildir. No, that is a design problem in Maildir. Granted I wouldn't want my MTAs using a flat file for all its traffic, it makes no sense there for how short

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-12 Thread Nate Duehr
On Jul 10, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Steve C. Lamb wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:38:21AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/09/08 13:26, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: This is why IMAP should be the standard mail store, not

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-12 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Nate Duehr wrote: We really gotta get you over to Maildir someday, Steve. ;-) Then you can back up mail directories with thinks like rdiff and not pull in the whole mbox file into the backup again. Just the new mail. (GRIN) While I do think Maildir is a lot better than mbox, applications

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-12 Thread Steve Lamb
Nate Duehr wrote: We really gotta get you over to Maildir someday, Steve. ;-) Uh, no, thanks. I far prefer mbox's problems to maildir's. Then you can back up mail directories with thinks like rdiff and not pull in the whole mbox file into the backup again. Just the new mail. (GRIN)

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/08 18:46, Steve Lamb wrote: Nate Duehr wrote: We really gotta get you over to Maildir someday, Steve. ;-) Uh, no, thanks. I far prefer mbox's problems to maildir's. Maybe it's because I keep d-u messages is semi-annual history

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-11 Thread Wackojacko
Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Of course, it drops mails directly into Maildir folders, so you'd have to tell Dovcot to use Maildir instead of mbox. But that should not be hard. I was talking about the filters from the client more than the subfolders. Dovecot doesn't do sieve.

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Wackojacko wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: Dovecot doesn't do sieve. There is a plug-in for sieve. http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve HTH Hell yeah it helps. Hm, they're compiled in by default in Ubuntu, wonder if that means Debian too. Also...

IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/09/08 13:26, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] try a different MUA? This is why IMAP should be the standard mail store, not mboxes in proprietary locations. second that. THe convenience is incredible. Case in point:

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-10 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:38:21AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/09/08 13:26, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: This is why IMAP should be the standard mail store, not mboxes in proprietary locations. second that. THe

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-10 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:51:01PM -0400, Steve C. Lamb wrote: The only thing I miss in that setup, really, is the ability to configure filters from inside the client and subfolders. I know both are possible if I switch to another IMAP server. However I would lose the flexibility of

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/08 12:51, Steve C. Lamb wrote: [snip] The only thing I miss in that setup, really, is the ability to configure filters from inside the client and subfolders. I know both are possible if I switch to another IMAP server. However I

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/08 12:38, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:38:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/09/08 13:26, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] try a different MUA? This is why IMAP should be the standard mail store, not

Re: IMAP is teh r0x0rz! [was: Re: getting copies of own posted messages; was: Re: ??: Stunned by aptitude.]

2008-07-10 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: Of course, it drops mails directly into Maildir folders, so you'd have to tell Dovcot to use Maildir instead of mbox. But that should not be hard. I was talking about the filters from the client more than the subfolders. Dovecot doesn't do sieve. signature.asc