Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/25/2010 10:17 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/25/2010 09:56 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] You might want to try Help - Migration Assistant - Use Original Toolbar That might be more familiar to you. I'd already done that, but decided to take another look at MA, and

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-26 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Ross wrote: Reply to List button (which I know was available as an add-on before) You remember what the add-on is called? Searching for reply to list in add-ons didn't give me anything. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9

RE: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-26 Thread Kevin Ross
From: clivemcbar...@web.de [mailto:clivemcbar...@web.de] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:14 PM Kevin Ross wrote: Reply to List button (which I know was available as an add-on before) You remember what the add-on is called? Searching for reply to list in add-ons didn't give me anything.

RE: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-26 Thread Kevin Ross
From: Kevin Ross [mailto:ke...@familyross.net] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:31 PM From: clivemcbar...@web.de [mailto:clivemcbar...@web.de] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:14 PM Kevin Ross wrote: Reply to List button (which I know was available as an add-on before) You

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread James P. Wallen
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote: [snip] PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa. I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 25 April 2010 02:50, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote: [snip] PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa. I don't think I've hated a program

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/25/2010 08:02 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 25 April 2010 02:50, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote: [snip] PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread godo
It's different for *no ascertainable reasons*. Fix what *is* broken, not what's not broken. The same with FireFox/Iceweasel. Major UI and add-on redesigns in an upcoming version, but the UI is fine just like it is. That's true! I also hate cosmetics changes. After upgrade I was scared that

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/25/2010 09:29 AM, godo wrote: It's different for *no ascertainable reasons*. Fix what *is* broken, not what's not broken. The same with FireFox/Iceweasel. Major UI and add-on redesigns in an upcoming version, but the UI is fine just like it is. That's true! I also hate cosmetics

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
Lots of other issues, such as the message header being huge, are taken care of in addons. And lots of Tb2 bugs are fixed in Tb3 (such as the invalid server cert issue). But Tbird/ID 2.0.x (the layout and UI) was *not* broken! What is broken? What would you say if an Ubuntard posted saying

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread godo
That's true! I also hate cosmetics changes. After upgrade I was scared that it mess all my sub folders. But at least in Thunderbird/Icedove it is possible to turn back on old way. How? I've minimized the damage, but still don't like it. When it is first time opened afther upgrade there is

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/25/2010 09:56 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: Lots of other issues, such as the message header being huge, are taken care of in addons. And lots of Tb2 bugs are fixed in Tb3 (such as the invalid server cert issue). But Tbird/ID 2.0.x (the layout and UI) was *not* broken! What is broken? What

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/25/2010 10:17 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/25/2010 09:56 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] You might want to try Help - Migration Assistant - Use Original Toolbar That might be more familiar to you. I'd already done that, but decided to take another look at MA, and thus disabled Smart

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
Why else would they have made the radical UI changes unless they thought the traditional UI was broken (i.e. substantialy flawed)? Maybe not broken, but could be improved. Jeez, everyone know that *my* opinion is the only one that counts! :) Not in v3.6, but it's coming.

Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote: [snip] PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa. I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird 3.0. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember?

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of nv ...)

2010-04-24 Thread Kevin Ross
On 4/24/2010 4:50 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote: [snip] PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa. I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird