Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:32:37 -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wim De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're looking at it wrong. Nobody really wants them to open source their driver. Okay maybe

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

Wim De Smet wrote: On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:32:37 -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wim De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're looking at it wrong. Nobody really wants them to open source their driver. Okay

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:56:57 -0400, Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wim De Smet wrote: On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:32:37 -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wim De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

Thank you! That was my point. Which is why I asked where I could find a board made by a company that isn't as selfish and petty as Microsoft. Frankly I think nvidia should get a clap on the back for making a driver. So its not Open Source, well frankly you are never going to get totally

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

Please don't modify your reply-to header to exclude the list. I'm interpreting the header as a wish to be CCed, which I respect; I expect my signature to be treated with the same courtesy. On Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 18:26, Caveman wrote: Frankly I think nvidia should get a clap on the back for

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:22:48 -0400, Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 02 October 2004 08:29, Wim De Smet wrote: linux support sooner). Now GPL-ing their drivers isn't going to happen. Drivers need to know certain things about the hardware that these companies just aren't willing

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

Alex Nordstrom wrote: Now, I'm not sure how well Matrox meets the requirements of the OP in terms of price and 3D game performance. They seem, however, not to be quite as intent on being altogether evil as ATI and Nvidia, and they should be great fun if you like triple-head setups, but I do

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

Wim De Smet wrote: On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:22:48 -0400, Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not why NVIDIA cannot open their driver. It's been said by them time and time again that the drive contains 3rd party code that they have a limited license for, and as such, cannot expose that code to

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

#secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wim De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're looking at it wrong. Nobody really wants them to open source their driver. Okay maybe because it's easier. But people really want to be able to write their own driver. And

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

#secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frankly I think nvidia should get a clap on the back for making a driver. So its not Open Source, well frankly you are never going to get totally open source. Not with that attitude,

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:26:41 +1000, Caveman wrote: Frankly I think nvidia should get a clap on the back for making a driver. A kick in the front for being completely closed. So its not Open Source, well frankly you are never going to get totally open source. I may never get totally open

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

Hi, On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:41:06 -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Johnson wrote: #secure method=pgp mode=sign Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I would like to do

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

On Saturday 02 October 2004 08:29, Wim De Smet wrote: linux support sooner). Now GPL-ing their drivers isn't going to happen. Drivers need to know certain things about the hardware that these companies just aren't willing to share with their competitor. Tough luck, start your own graphics card

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:22:48 -0400, Brendan wrote: That's not why NVIDIA cannot open their driver. It's been said by them time and time again that the drive contains 3rd party code that they have a limited license for, and as such, cannot expose that code to non-licensees. This is a

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 04:22:48PM -0400, Brendan wrote: On Saturday 02 October 2004 08:29, Wim De Smet wrote: linux support sooner). Now GPL-ing their drivers isn't going to happen. Drivers need to know certain things about the hardware that these companies just aren't willing to share

Re: If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

#secure method=pgp mode=sign -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jules Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a disingenuous excuse, if indeed Nvidia has made it. They have refused, time and time again, to release details of the programming interface for their cards. It's a bad

If ATI and nVidia don't support their own products, who does?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Johnson wrote: #secure method=pgp mode=sign Roberto Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I would like to do is get an nVidia card. Mistake du jour! You'll only spend more on the nVidia for even