Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Friday, March 05, 2021 08:44:26 PM David Wright wrote: > On Fri 05 Mar 2021 at 14:30:30 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, March 05, 2021 11:56:24 AM David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > If a device is sold on

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Fri 05 Mar 2021 at 14:30:30 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 05, 2021 11:56:24 AM David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > If a device is sold on a separate card, it's not necessarily > > enough to know the model

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Friday, March 05, 2021 11:56:24 AM David Wright wrote: > On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > If a device is sold on a separate card, it's not necessarily > enough to know the model number of the card. Many "identical" > models are sold with various different

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 15:47:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, March 04, 2021 12:40:00 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote: > > Brian wrote: '"+1" for what?

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

Brian wrote: >On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 11:40:00 -0600, David Wright wrote: > >> On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> > It would be nicer if there was some person or group that tried to vet >> > them, or >> > maybe even suggesting that something like a requirement

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Thursday, March 04, 2021 12:40:00 PM David Wright wrote: > On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote: > Brian wrote: '"+1" for what? Advertising each and every non-Debian > installer that comes along and is

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 11:40:00 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > It would be nicer if there was some person or group that tried to vet them, > > or > > maybe even suggesting that something like a requirement that at least one

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 10:54:14 (+), Leandro neto wrote: > I volunteer to be [ ] a mirror on Rio de Janeiro Brasil. I build computers > but I don't know about programming leandro AIUI we're not talking about mirrors, but about building the software that might eventually be mirrored. Cheers,

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:36:42 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote: Brian wrote: '"+1" for what? Advertising each and every non-Debian installer that comes along and is uploaded to unofficial?' > > I was under the impression that "The

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

I volunteer to beca mirror on Rio de Janeiro Brasil. I build computers but I don't know about programming leandro Enviado via UOL Mail _ Assunto: Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question] De: rhkra...@gmail.com Enviado em: 3 de março de 2021 12:37

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On 2021-03-03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote: >> I was under the impression that "The Debian Images Team is a small >> team of people working on creating, testing and distributing Debian >> images for [us]", whereas you seem to be describing

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Wednesday, March 03, 2021 06:15:03 PM Brian wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 03, 2021 03:18:25 PM Brian wrote: > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

t; https://www.debian.org/distrib/ > > > > What's the problem? > > I thought the problem was as described in this from Brian: > > Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question] > From: Brian (resent from debian-user@lists.debian.org) > To: debian

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

m was as described in this from Brian: Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question] From: Brian (resent from debian-user@lists.debian.org) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Fri Feb 26 13:41:40 2021 ... A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The probl

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Wed 03 Mar 2021 at 10:27:42 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 06:29:15 PM Brian wrote: > > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500,

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 21:01:09 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 23:29:15 (+), Brian wrote: [...] > > > > "+1" for what? Advertising each and every non-Debian installer that > > > > comes along and is uploaded to unofficial? > > I was under the impression that "The Debian

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 10:01:09 PM David Wright wrote: > I was under the impression that "The Debian Images Team is a small > team of people working on creating, testing and distributing Debian > images for [us]", whereas you seem to be describing something like > a wiki where any Tom, Dick or

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 06:29:15 PM Brian wrote: > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > No. Providing a reasonable explanatory text

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 23:29:15 (+), Brian wrote: > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On 2021-03-02 23:29, Brian wrote: On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > > > "Many

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 16:19:45 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > > > > "Many wireless network cards (and even

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Tuesday, March 02, 2021 02:55:08 PM Brian wrote: > On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > > > non-free firmware to function properly. This

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 08:13:13 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included > > in the standard installation

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 11:29:57 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 28 feb 21, 12:03:31, Celejar wrote: > > > > Snark aside, what's wrong with something like this: > > > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Mon 01 Mar 2021 at 10:23:51 +, David Goodenough wrote: > How is a naive user meant to know whether his hardware required > non-free firmware? That's a very tricky one to give a definitive answer to. It possibly depends on the quality and quantity of research done by the user. Howerever,

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:03:31 PM Celejar wrote: > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included > in the standard installation images, due to Debian's free software > ideals. If the network hardware

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

[Fixed top-posting.] On Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:23:51 + David Goodenough wrote: > On Monday, 1 March 2021 09:29:57 GMT Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 28 feb 21, 12:03:31, Celejar wrote: > > > Snark aside, what's wrong with something like this: > > > > > > "Many wireless network cards (and

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

How is a naive user meant to know whether his hardware required non-free firmware? The only route that seems to be given by this wording is that they install (or try to install) the system using the official image, and then have to work out for themselves what does not work, and from that

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Du, 28 feb 21, 12:03:31, Celejar wrote: > > Snark aside, what's wrong with something like this: > > "Many wireless network cards (and even some wired ones) require > non-free firmware to function properly. This firmware is not included > in the standard installation images, due to Debian's

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 14:27:24 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 19:11:51 + > Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 12:03:31 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 + > > > Brian wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 19:11:51 + Brian wrote: > On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 12:03:31 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 + > > Brian wrote: > > > > > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 26,

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Sun 28 Feb 2021 at 12:03:31 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 + > Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > > > > > [...] > > >

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:49:58 + Brian wrote: > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The >

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:41:40 + Brian wrote: ... > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious escape route is > advertised. Yes, I know - if a site search is

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:49:58PM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page.

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 16:28:56 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > > > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious escape route is >

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 21:15:31 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > > with wireless-only

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:41:40PM +, Brian wrote: [...] > A 64-bit netinstall is prominent on the Debian main page. The > problem with that image is that it is unlikely to suit many users > with wireless-only connectivity. No obvious escape route is > advertised. Yes, I know - if a site

Re: Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Fri 26 Feb 2021 at 13:59:38 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 02:08:26PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > > No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step > > > onto a sticky issue which

Re: Debian install Question

Andrei POPESCU writes: > Try installing in expert mode (if the image boots), as far as I recall > there was an option to enable and use backports. Thanks. Well, the referenced LWN discussion mentioned tethering and indeed, plugging in my phone and enabling USB tethering resulted in a detected

Non-free firmware [was: Debian install Question]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 02:08:26PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step > > onto a sticky issue which has no "nice" solution. The two extremes > > > > (a) Debian should be a

Re: Debian install Question

On Jo, 25 feb 21, 18:30:55, Anssi Saari wrote: > > But what if someone needs a newer kernel than 4.19 too? My chosen HW > needs kernel 5.1 for wifi and 5.9 for ethernet plus FW from Intel and > Realtek. And no, I don't want to install testing or unstable. Or Ubuntu. > > I figured I'll install

Re: Debian install Question

On Jo, 25 feb 21, 11:53:18, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > No worries. Things happen -- and in this case you happened to step > onto a sticky issue which has no "nice" solution. The two extremes > > (a) Debian should be a free distribution. If you're holding a >Debian "CD" [1] on your hands,

Re: Debian install Question

On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 21:05:00 (-0800), Weaver wrote: > On 25-02-2021 14:53, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote: > >> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> > IL Ka wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I

Re: Debian install Question

Anssi Saari (a...@sci.fi) wrote: > Henning Follmann writes: > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > > > Please take the time to read

Re: Debian install Question

Henning Follmann writes: > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that site. I

Re: Debian install Question

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 01:36:58AM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > Please do not do that. > > > > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > >

Re: Debian install Question

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 01:36:58AM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > Please do not do that. > > > > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > >

Re: Debian install Question

On Thursday 25 February 2021 02:23:22 deloptes wrote: > IL Ka wrote: > > If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian > > installation guide somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to > > this wiki to newbies. > > newbies use ubuntu :) Yeah, but it doesn't take long to get over

Re: Debian install Question

Hi, David Wright wrote: > > Take care: this stick will have very strange partitioning. I am preaching against this partition table layout since years. deloptes wrote: > newbies use ubuntu :) ... which eventually switched to a neater layout in the 20.10 ISOs with only one partition table hack

Re: Debian install Question

IL Ka wrote: > If so, I believe this info is worth adding to the Debian installation > guide somewhere in the wiki, so we can give a link to this wiki to > newbies. newbies use ubuntu :)

Re: Debian install Question

On 2021-02-24 14:36, IL Ka wrote: I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to Debian. My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware. This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that needs non-free firmware" I see in

Re: Debian install Question

On 25-02-2021 14:53, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote: >> On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote: >> > IL Ka wrote: >> >> >> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to >> >> Debian. >> >> My idea was to install Debian, and

Re: Debian install Question

On Wed 24 Feb 2021 at 16:44:18 (-0800), Weaver wrote: > On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote: > > IL Ka wrote: > >> > >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to > >> Debian. > >> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware. > > This is

Re: Debian install Question

On 25-02-2021 09:32, Dan Ritter wrote: > IL Ka wrote: >> >> I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to >> Debian. >> My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware. This is quite possible. >> This is the third question about "how to install

Re: Debian install Question

IL Ka wrote: > > I am sorry for giving inadequate advice. Please forgive me as I am new to > Debian. > My idea was to install Debian, and then install non-free firmware. > > This is the third question about "how to install Debian if I have nic that > needs non-free firmware" I see in this list

Re: Debian install Question

On Thu 25 Feb 2021 at 01:36:58 +0300, IL Ka wrote: > > > > Please do not do that. > > > > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > > >

Re: Debian install Question

> > Please do not do that. > > > You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free firmware here: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.8.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > Please take the time to read AND understand the information on that

Re: Debian install Question

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 08:49:32PM +0300, IL Ka wrote: > Hello. > Try to download and install "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" > from here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ > > Please do not do that. You will find a iso here which includes most of the non-free

Re: Debian install Question

On 2021-02-24 09:47, M.R.P. zensky wrote: Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the net with wifi. I have tried the net install iso and it did not work. I think I need the unoficial stable non free firmware included. I select a mirror site but Here I am

Re: Debian install Question

Hello. Try to download and install "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" from here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:48 PM M.R.P. zensky wrote: > Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the > net with wifi. I have

Debian install Question

Hello I am installing Debian on a amd processor computer. I connect to the net with wifi. I have tried the net install iso and it did not work. I think I need the unoficial stable non free firmware included. I select a mirror site but Here I am confused about what iso file I want. I am also

Re: dual-boot install question

Doug wrote: > And disconnect the Windows drive > when you install Linux. completely paranoid approach, but if you are not sure in what you are doing, it is justified. However for the record it is not necessary to do any of this and even not required to have 2 drives, unless you do some windows

Re: dual-boot install question

On 02/09/2017 10:24 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 02/09/2017 05:11 PM, Lori . wrote: /snip/ I'm really confused, if you can and or have the time please guide me for the Dual Boot installation process. I've been a big follower of Debian Linux for 3 years. I don't know why this time I'm

Re: dual-boot install question

On 02/09/2017 05:11 PM, Lori . wrote: Hello, I've been having some problematic issues with the install of Debian 8. I'm trying to do a so called "Dual-Boot" with my Windows 10 dell laptop. I've partitioned my disk and shrunk it to 125gb of free space. I have a FAT32 usb stick that holds 16gb on

Re: dual-boot install question

On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 20:11:55 -0500 "Lori ." wrote: > Hello, I've been having some problematic issues with the install of > Debian > 8. I'm trying to do a so called "Dual-Boot" with my Windows 10 dell > laptop. I've partitioned my disk and shrunk it to 125gb of free > space.

dual-boot install question

Hello, I've been having some problematic issues with the install of Debian 8. I'm trying to do a so called "Dual-Boot" with my Windows 10 dell laptop. I've partitioned my disk and shrunk it to 125gb of free space. I have a FAT32 usb stick that holds 16gb on it. So when I partitioned one of my disk

Re: (SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

On Saturday 14 December 2013 12:06 PM, Kailash Kalyani wrote: On Friday 13 December 2013 02:32 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I experienced that synaptic for *buntu

Re: (SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

Hi. On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:06:15 +0530 Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote: Apt-get gave me the following error: The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools ( 0.110~) but 0.109.1 is to be installed E: Unable to

Re: (SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

On Saturday 14 December 2013 02:22 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:06:15 +0530 Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote: Apt-get gave me the following error: The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools (

(SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

On Friday 13 December 2013 02:32 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's for Debian broken too. Sometimes

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

Hi. On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530 Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports without breaking a stable install. What am I missing? Sure, it is possible. You're just using wrong tool for the task. Try: apt-get

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530 Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports without breaking a stable install. What am I missing? Sure, it is possible. You're

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530 Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports without breaking a

Re: Backported Kernel - install question

Hi. On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's for Debian broken too. Sometimes nothing is inconsistent, but Synaptic

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

Karen Lewellen, 26.06.2012: Hi Lici, That was the nicest way to say...get to the point! Honestly, I cannot speak to how layout appears for others. I actually have the same question when I use, pico, the editor here. In google mail there is an option. Wrap lines to fit displayed area? I use

Re: unique install question?

Hi lisi, Thank you! what your post shows, and what I honestly stopped trying to express is this. There is no such thing as a so called one size fits all blind user. Like every single aspect of the human experience, sight loss is a 100% individual thing. Just like sight presence. to claim

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On Wednesday 13 June 2012 02:47:37 Karen Lewellen wrote: Rob, I do not work in most popular, because this may or may not mean most accessible from a screen reading standpoint, or more flexible from a usability standpoint...in my personal dictionary, there is no such thing as most people. I

Re: unique install question?

On Wednesday 13 June 2012 19:55:19 Julien Claassen wrote: Knoppix did support blind users as well. There is Vinux, which is a Debian version specially compiled for blind users. Julien - Vinux is based on Ubuntu, not Debian, and I do not like it. I am partially sighted, not fully blind, but

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

Hi Lici, That was the nicest way to say...get to the point! Honestly, I cannot speak to how layout appears for others. I actually have the same question when I use, pico, the editor here. In google mail there is an option. Wrap lines to fit displayed area? I always say now, since the displayed

Re: unique install question?

Hi, Julien! On Wednesday 13 June 2012 20:42:04 Julien Claassen wrote: Debian has much more to offer to me as a blnd user and it's more stable. :-) +1 Much better also for a partially sighted user. I use Lenny with KDE 3.5.10, which is highly configurable, and I have configured it for me! I

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On 14/06/12 15:46, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:23 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message pine.bsf.4.64.1206131456410.45...@server1.shellworld.net: snipped but there is only so much possible WITH this present box, Provided you have at least 128MB of RAM there's not much

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:49 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: My primary concern would be whether the audio chipset is going to be supported Those old boards perhaps often use AC'97? It's supported by ALSA. BIOS settings might need a check up, dunno. Google found hits regarding to issues with

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: Claim? Well, there's that other guy trying desperately to find technical evidence against your empircal data, so I employed a word I hoped would demonstrate my scientific objectivity in the matter. curmudgeonly - says

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On 2012-06-13, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Technical evidence that inside the Wheezy installer, in expert mode, prior to partitioning, but after choosing a mirror of the Debian archive, the installer asks which release you wish to install, at which point you may choose Squeeze? I

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: I may be assuming wrong, No. But don't let that stop you from being snide. I'm snide and curmudgeonly. It could be worse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On 14/06/12 17:24, Curt wrote: On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: Claim? Hey - if I made a claim (actually just agreed with the OPs information) what sort of specious allegation do we label the d-i and speakup developers claims? HINT: I believe it

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On 14/06/12 17:46, Curt wrote: On 2012-06-14, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: snipped I'm snide and curmudgeonly. It could be worse. Indeed. Best try and stay sane. If you don't you'd be snide, curmudgeonly, and nuts. Which would make you some sort of a snack

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On 14/06/12 04:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:27:22 +1000, Scott wrote in message 4fd7de6a.6020...@gmail.com: On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote: On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 16:52:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:01:22 +0100, Brian wrote in message

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On 14/06/12 17:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 16:49 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: My primary concern would be whether the audio chipset is going to be supported Those old boards perhaps often use AC'97? Post 1997 - yes (funny that) AC is just Intel's standard (v1 - current

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On Thu 14 Jun 2012 at 13:17:59 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/06/12 19:29, Brian wrote: On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 10:57:42 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/06/12 04:35, a troll wrote: By the time the choosing a mirror stage is reached with a netinst image or the first CD the base

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On Thu 14 Jun 2012 at 13:28:31 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 14/06/12 01:45, Curt wrote: and once an expert you may choose Squeeze as the target distribution. after choosing the mirrors module during the load installer components from cd option (expert mode). Won't work with a Wheezy

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:32:56 +1000, Scott wrote in message 4fd9a1b8.9050...@gmail.com: On 14/06/12 04:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:27:22 +1000, Scott wrote in message 4fd7de6a.6020...@gmail.com: On 13/06/12 04:45, Brian wrote: On Tue 12 Jun 2012 at 16:52:43 +0200,

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

Hi Karen :) I suspect that 30GB won't be enough space to install all packages from all DVDs. Btw. I was a musician too and I was a radio producer too and there's still DR DOS for my Atari's 80286 hardware emulator installed. I guess that having those less things in common I still can forecast

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

PS, OT: I preferred Xfce, but the more up to date Xfce is, the more serious issues do appear on my machine. For Debian stable Xfce still should be reliable, but for current Ubuntu and Arch I experience it as a PITA at the moment. GNOME2 is very good, but even if it should be provided by stable

Re: unique install question?

On Tuesday 12 June 2012 5:55:21 pm Karen Lewellen wrote: ...it is also the bit that does not work, which is why I asked here. Karen, who is playing catch up, and profoundly appreciative of all the wisdom shared here today. Karen, Have you contacted U of Toronto for help with your problem?

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 10:57:42 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/06/12 04:35, Brian wrote: By the time the choosing a mirror stage is reached with a netinst image or the first CD the base files (Stable or Testing versions) have been installed in /target. Instead of just hitting

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 10:29 +0100, Brian wrote: The OP has all the Squeeze CD/DVDs... why on earth do they need to connect to the internet? As is made clear in this thread - she doesn't and it would not benefit her. Since she's willing to install 40 media players, because she's interested

Re: unique install question? (Squeeze audio install using the Wheezy-di from a USB drive)

On Wed 13 Jun 2012 at 10:27:22 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: PLoP will also allow you to boot from a CD/DVD that's not supported by the BIOS (pre-1998 BIOS) Plop claims not be able to boot a USB CD/DVD drive: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/full.html#l_usbinfo However, with a bit of

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