Re: Questions about installing Debian on a laptop

2022-12-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 14:52:22 +0100 Gabor Urban wrote: > What are the most important issues selecting a laptop I should be > mindful about? The first thing I would do, even before buying the thing, is consult Hardware for Linux to see what experience others have reported.

Re: Questions about installing Debian on a laptop

2022-12-04 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 04.12.2022 18:52, Gabor Urban wrote: Hi, I am planning to install Debian on a laptop the first time.That will not be my first installing but I never used notebooks for that. I have found a lot of useful information but I would like to have some guidance at the start. What are the most

Re: Questions about installing Debian on a laptop

2022-12-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 02:52:22PM +0100, Gabor Urban wrote: > Hi, > > I am planning to install Debian on a laptop the first time.That will not be > my first installing but I never used notebooks for that. I have found a lot > of useful information but I would like to hav

Questions about installing Debian on a laptop

2022-12-04 Thread Gabor Urban
Hi, I am planning to install Debian on a laptop the first time.That will not be my first installing but I never used notebooks for that. I have found a lot of useful information but I would like to have some guidance at the start. What are the most important issues selecting a laptop I should

Re: Installing Tomcat 10

2022-11-24 Thread Amn
Yes, you are right. Thanks! Copy and Past, humm, I'll be more careful next time. On 11/24/22 8:06 a.m., Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 9:33 PM Amn wrote: In my Debian 11, I entered this command : wget

Re: Installing Tomcat 10

2022-11-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 9:33 PM Amn wrote: > > In my Debian 11, I entered this command : > wget > https://downloads.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-10/v10.0.18/bin/apache-tomcat-10.0.18.tar.gz > > After that I get this message > > --2022-11-23 21:24:54-- >

Re: Installing Tomcat 10

2022-11-23 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 09:33:13PM -0500, Amn wrote: > In my Debian 11, I entered this command : > /wget > https://downloads.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-10/v10.0.18/bin/apache-tomcat-10.0.18.tar.gz/ > > After that I get this message > // > > /--2022-11-23 21:24:54-- >

Re: Installing Tomcat 10

2022-11-23 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 21:33:13 -0500 Amn wrote: > /*/HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found/**/ > /**/2022-11-23 21:24:54 ERROR 404: Not Found./* Because the file isn't there. Maybe there's a newer version since those instructions were written? Is there any reason not to use the

Installing Tomcat 10

2022-11-23 Thread Amn
In my Debian 11, I entered this command : /wget https://downloads.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-10/v10.0.18/bin/apache-tomcat-10.0.18.tar.gz/ After that I get this message // /--2022-11-23 21:24:54-- https://downloads.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-10/v10.0.18/bin/apache-tomcat-10.0.18.tar.gz//

Re: installing & upgrading backport package & upgrading system

2022-11-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 02 Nov 2022 at 04:52:51 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 04:20:22AM +, jindam, vani wrote: > > * i want to install lo package from bullseye-backports. > > There is no such package name "lo" in bullseye-backports or any other > version of Debian. What are

Re: installing & upgrading backport package & upgrading system

2022-11-01 Thread Andy Smith
ng your apt sources to include bullseye-backports) is the last line. > * for upgrading entire system after > installation of backport lo package? : You do not have to update the entire system after installing one backports package. The backports suites aren't full distributions and you could

installing & upgrading backport package & upgrading system

2022-11-01 Thread jindam, vani
* i want to install lo package from bullseye-backports. * correct method for before installation of backport lo package? : (1) sudo apt -t bullseye-backports update && sudo apt -t bullseye-backports full-upgrade sudo apt -t bullseye-backports install lo (2) sudo apt update && sudo apt

Problem installing gr-gsm from debian repository

2022-10-28 Thread RootSquid01
Using Debian Testing Kernel: 6.0.0-2-amd64 Setting up xtrx-dkms (0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3) ... Removing old xtrx-0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3 DKMS files... Deleting module xtrx-0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3 completely from the DKMS tree. Loading new xtrx-0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3 DKMS

Re: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus

2022-10-25 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 05:34, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I always contact the manufacturer of the screws used in the products > > I buy rather than the company who assembled the product using > > said screws. > > Indeed, Ubiquity uses Debian as part of their devices a bit like other > companies

Re: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus

2022-10-25 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 04:54, chris wrote: > I always contact the manufacturer of the screws used in the products I buy > rather than the company who assembled the product using said screws. > > :) > Lol I don't understand. Regards, Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming Targeted Individual in

Re: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus

2022-10-25 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 04:31, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25 2022 at 09:56:50 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming < > tdtemc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL > > Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Pl

Re: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus

2022-10-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I always contact the manufacturer of the screws used in the products > I buy rather than the company who assembled the product using > said screws. Indeed, Ubiquity uses Debian as part of their devices a bit like other companies use screws. Except AFAIK they don't use Debian as-is, so getting

Re: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus

2022-10-25 Thread chris
t; tdtemc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL > > Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus > > > > Good day from Singapore, > > > > I am posting here because UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus is powered by De

Re: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus

2022-10-25 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Tue, Oct 25 2022 at 09:56:50 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Subject: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL > Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus > > Good day from Singapore, > > I am posting here because UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus is

I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus

2022-10-25 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Subject: I have achieved PARTIAL SUCCESS in installing Godaddy SSL Certificate in UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus Good day from Singapore, I am posting here because UniFi Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus is powered by Debian GNU/Linux 9. I have found many reference guides on installing SSL certificate in UniFi

Re: Reports of boot failure after installing linux-image-5.10.0-19-amd64, on machines with AMD graphics

2022-10-19 Thread Felix Miata
David composed on 2022-10-19 18:40 (UTC-0400): > Just a general warning, for anyone who has not noticed, that > installing the latest kernel (linux-image-5.10.0-19-amd64) on a > machine with AMD graphics is causing numerous people to > report boot failures: > https://bugs.deb

Re: Reports of boot failure after installing linux-image-5.10.0-19-amd64, on machines with AMD graphics

2022-10-19 Thread Dan Ritter
David wrote: > Hello list, > > Just a general warning, for anyone who has not noticed, that > installing the latest kernel (linux-image-5.10.0-19-amd64) on a > machine with AMD graphics is causing numerous people to > report boot failures: > > https://bugs.debian.org/c

Reports of boot failure after installing linux-image-5.10.0-19-amd64, on machines with AMD graphics

2022-10-19 Thread David
Hello list, Just a general warning, for anyone who has not noticed, that installing the latest kernel (linux-image-5.10.0-19-amd64) on a machine with AMD graphics is causing numerous people to report boot failures: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1022025 https://bugs.debian.org

Re: Installing an archive version of Debian

2022-09-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 30 Sep 2022 at 15:47:21 (-0700), David Hoff Jr wrote: > I am attempting to install 32 bit Debian 7 to a old netbook which is the > last version of Debian where the text to speech voice Voxin IBM voice > works correctly in the console.. > In the text installer, when given the choice to

Installing an archive version of Debian

2022-09-30 Thread David Hoff Jr
I am attempting to install 32 bit Debian 7 to a old netbook which is the last version of Debian where the text to speech voice Voxin IBM voice works correctly in the console.. In the text installer, when given the choice to choose a mirror I choose choice number 1 which is to do it manually. I am

Re: installing Linux debian

2022-09-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 12:53:02PM +, jair wey wrote: > Hello , Debian support > > i installed parrot os and later kali Linux on my usb > > when running it I get booted into the busybox ‘smbus is busy cant use it” > I tried looking for answers googling it but nothing of the solution worked

installing Linux debian

2022-09-29 Thread jair wey
Hello , Debian support i installed parrot os and later kali Linux on my usb when running it I get booted into the busybox ‘smbus is busy cant use it” I tried looking for answers googling it but nothing of the solution worked What should I do to solve this problem Should I also provide

Re: Installing Wi-Fi card driver

2022-09-11 Thread john doe
On 9/11/2022 1:16 PM, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 5:11 AM Mansour zermello wrote: Hi Timothy, i appreciate too much your response, but i already installed the debian OS, but install the driver of the wifi card that still blur for me to be honest, i really need to be

Re: Installing Wi-Fi card driver

2022-09-11 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 5:11 AM Mansour zermello wrote: > Hi Timothy, i appreciate too much your response, but i already installed > the debian OS, but install the driver of the wifi card that still blur for > me to be honest, i really need to be guided step by step I'm sure I'll > finish by

Re: Installing Wi-Fi card driver

2022-09-10 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 8:48 AM Mansour zermello wrote: > Hi, I'm a new user in the Linux world especially debian, but i was > interested by debian since very long time but one day I decided to install > it and start to use it, i had difficulties to install it but with a lot of > effort and

Re: Installing Wi-Fi card driver ( completing informations)

2022-09-09 Thread Haines Brown
On Fri, Sep 09, 2022 at 12:39:36PM +, Mansour zermello wrote: > Hi, I'm a new user in the Linux world especially debian, but i was > interested by debian since very long time but one day I decided to > install it and start to use it, i had difficulties to install it but > with a lot of

Re: Installing Wi-Fi card driver ( completing informations)

2022-09-09 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 9/9/22 05:39, Mansour zermello wrote: Hi, I'm a new user in the Linux world especially debian, but i was interested by debian since very long time but one day I decided to install it and start to use it, i had difficulties to install it but with a lot of effort and searches i succeeded,

Re: Installing Wi-Fi card driver ( completing informations)

2022-09-09 Thread Dan Ritter
Mansour zermello wrote: > Hi, I'm a new user in the Linux world especially debian, but i was interested > by debian since very long time but one day I decided to install it and start > to use it, i had difficulties to install it but with a lot of effort and > searches i succeeded, BUT the

Installing Wi-Fi card driver ( completing informations)

2022-09-09 Thread Mansour zermello
Hi, I'm a new user in the Linux world especially debian, but i was interested by debian since very long time but one day I decided to install it and start to use it, i had difficulties to install it but with a lot of effort and searches i succeeded, BUT the problem where I'm stucked is the WIFI

Installing Wi-Fi card driver

2022-09-09 Thread Mansour zermello
Hi, I'm a new user in the Linux world especially debian, but i was interested by debian since very long time but one day I decided to install it and start to use it, i had difficulties to install it but with a lot of effort and searches i succeeded, BUT the problem where I'm stucked is the WIFI

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-30 Thread Nicolas George
Anssi Saari (12022-07-21): > Well, upgrading that to current Debian could be one way forward. There > are tools in Debian you can use to weed out the proprietary stuff if > that's a concern. Upgrades in Debian work in case you're unaware but > follow the release notes. Or I could debootstrap a

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-21 Thread Anssi Saari
nybody have something to suggest? Not really. I had no luck installing Debian on my Raspberry Pi CM3+ with a CM-IO-POE-BOX base board so I went with Ubuntu since it just worked. With Debian I got nothing on the serial port. I think I asked on some mailing list and then was adviced to ask on IRC bu

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
Stefan Monnier (12022-07-19): > I think the issue is that "Debian support" is distinct from "Debian > installer support". So you may need to use some other means to install > Debian than the official Debian installer. The Debian *installer* has: - an announce that this device is now supported:

Re: Installer BoF video link - [WAS Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4]

2022-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
Andrew M.A. Cater (12022-07-20): > > > I think it is usual practice for this kind of video to become > > > available for viewing > > > on demand in the near future. > > > > > > My recollection of the discussion is that Gunnar's work is welcomed > > > by the installer team. And it is hoped and

Installer BoF video link - [WAS Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4]

2022-07-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 06:54:40AM +0200, Christian Britz wrote: > Thank you, very interesting! > > >> I would call it semi-official. Gunnar Wolf is a respected Debian > >> developer and the debian.net domain is a property of the project. I > >> would prefer an official-official installer though.

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Christian Britz
Thank you, very interesting! >> I would call it semi-official. Gunnar Wolf is a respected Debian >> developer and the debian.net domain is a property of the project. I >> would prefer an official-official installer though. > > This was briefly touched on during a livestreamed discussion between

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread David
On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 at 01:26, Christian Britz wrote: > Am 19.07.22 um 17:16 schrieb Nicolas George: > > Christian Britz (12022-07-19): > >> The common way to install Debian on a Raspberry Pi is using one of the > >> images provided at raspi.debian.net. Once you got it installed, it is a > >>

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Nicolas George
Jeremy Ardley (12022-07-20): > In my personal use, I use 'official' debian and armbian, I don't see any > difference in function at all. They are 99.9% the same. The only difference > is the drivers and boot process. > > I use standard debian arm repositories for all software unrelated to the >

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 20/7/22 12:56 am, Nicolas George wrote: Jeremy Ardley (12022-07-20): I have had pretty consistent success with Armbian images - not Rock Pi, but equivalent systems from a variety of vendors. https://www.armbian.com/rockpi4/ Thank you. But this is not official Debian, which is what I am

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Nicolas George
Jeremy Ardley (12022-07-20): > I have had pretty consistent success with Armbian images - not Rock > Pi, but equivalent systems from a variety of vendors. > > https://www.armbian.com/rockpi4/ Thank you. But this is not official Debian, which is what I am trying to achieve. Regards, --

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 19/7/22 10:03 pm, Nicolas George wrote: Hi. I am trying to install Debian on a Rock Pi 4 (v1.73). It is a system-on-chip similar to and mostly compatible with the Raspberry Pi 4 but with an on-board SSD. Does anybody have something to suggest? I have had pretty consistent success with

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Nicolas George
Christian Britz (12022-07-19): > I do not doubt that. I just wanted to point out that at least the boot > system is not so similar. You called your device "similar to and mostly > compatible with the Raspberry Pi 4". At least for the installation > process that is not true. Indeed. I suppose the

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Christian Britz
Am 19.07.22 um 17:16 schrieb Nicolas George: > Christian Britz (12022-07-19): >> If this device really can boot the Debian installer, at least it's boot >> system is fundamentally different to an out of the box Raspberry Pi. > > IIRC, no two ARM systems have the same boot system. > > The RC1

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Nicolas George
Christian Britz (12022-07-19): > If this device really can boot the Debian installer, at least it's boot > system is fundamentally different to an out of the box Raspberry Pi. IIRC, no two ARM systems have the same boot system. The RC1 announcement of Debian installer says this system is

Re: Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Christian Britz
Hi Nicolas, Am 19.07.22 um 16:03 schrieb Nicolas George: > Hi. I am trying to install Debian on a Rock Pi 4 (v1.73). It is a > system-on-chip similar to and mostly compatible with the Raspberry Pi 4 > but with an on-board SSD. [...] > > I have tried the procedure described on: >

Installing on Rock Pi 4

2022-07-19 Thread Nicolas George
Hi. I am trying to install Debian on a Rock Pi 4 (v1.73). It is a system-on-chip similar to and mostly compatible with the Raspberry Pi 4 but with an on-board SSD. I have managed to boot and install one of the Debian images provided by the vendor, but they are obsolete or third-party or both.

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:57:00PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:53:59PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > When linux was first written, the IBM PC was 15 years old. > > *10 > > I'm not sure if it's math or typing that's hard All three of them, actually ;-) Cheers --

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 Jun 2022 at 13:06:40 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 12:20:05 -0400 > gene heskett wrote: > > > Now, I really need a terminal for alt-ctl-F3 that does support the > > mouse. > > charles@hawk:~$ apt show gpm [ … ] > Description: General Purpose Mouse interface >

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:53:59PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: When linux was first written, the IBM PC was 15 years old. *10 I'm not sure if it's math or typing that's hard

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:06:38AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, June 13, 2022 11:35:29 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > Let's get some actual numbers in here. From wikipedia: > > IBM PC with proprietary BIOS introduced: 1981 > Linus Torvalds begins writing Linux: 1991 Efforts started toward EFI (predecessor in some sense of UEFI) -- see below:

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:06:38AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: > > new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when linux > > was first written... > If that is what they taught you in history, Michael, sue the the school.   *sigh* Let's

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread gene heskett
On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when linux was first written... So having

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Anssi Saari
rhkra...@gmail.com writes: > IIRC, the bootable flag is pretty much irrelevant in Linux -- it doesn't have > to be set to boot from a partitions. Am I mis-remembering? I remember I once had an Intel motherboard where the BIOS wouldn't boot a partition if it wasn't set to bootable. But as you

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread mick crane
On 2022-06-12 18:34, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: On Sunday 12 June 2022 12:54:19 pm mick crane wrote: As mentioned before, if it was me, I'd remove everything except the disk thing you want to boot with that has the OS on it and add and get things working one at a time afterwards. Were I

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 12:20:05 -0400 gene heskett wrote: > Now, I really need a terminal for alt-ctl-F3 that does support the > mouse. charles@hawk:~$ apt show gpm Package: gpm Version: 1.20.7-8 Priority: optional Section: misc Maintainer: Axel Beckert Installed-Size: 553 kB Pre-Depends:

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Brian
On Sun 12 Jun 2022 at 17:00:42 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 12:20:05PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > On 6/12/22 10:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: > > > > What I do have is konsole and termit, no

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Saturday 11 June 2022 08:17:26 pm gene heskett wrote: > I tried to do that in gimp before I sent it, but all the menu's are > changed from what I am used to, I could select and save what I wanted, > clear the frame and paste what I'd outlined and saved, but I got the > whole thing back when

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Sunday 12 June 2022 12:54:19 pm mick crane wrote: > As mentioned before, if it was me, I'd remove everything except the disk > thing you want to boot with that has the OS on it and add and get things > working one at a time afterwards. Were I running into these kinds of hassles, that would

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 Jun 2022 at 12:53:31 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 6/12/22 12:34, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 19:41:34 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > Thanks all, I think I'm making progress. But apparently I'm a new bee at > > > raid stuff. Hmmm, I just noted that htop is

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
tions. The one gotcha might be swap - but, then again,you have swap on your RAID and know how to use swapon command. All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater > That's not the important first impression however. Installing without a root > pw, I am prevented from doing anything to the system s

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread gene heskett
On 6/12/22 12:41, Dan Ritter wrote: gene heskett wrote: On 6/12/22 10:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: That's not the important first impression however. Installing without a root pw, I am prevented from doing anything to the system

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 11:42:06AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > If blkid is missing, so is lsblk, unicorn:~$ type blkid blkid is /sbin/blkid unicorn:~$ type lsblk lsblk is /bin/lsblk Betcha it's a PATH thing.

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread mick crane
On 2022-06-12 17:20, gene heskett wrote: I so want you to succeed and I can't be a lot of help. As mentioned before, if it was me, I'd remove everything except the disk thing you want to boot with that has the OS on it and add and get things working one at a time afterwards. mick -- Key ID

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread gene heskett
On 6/12/22 12:34, David Wright wrote: On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 19:41:34 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On Saturday, 11 June 2022 13:32:54 EDT gene heskett wrote: On Saturday, 11 June 2022 11:47:46 EDT gene heskett wrote: Let me go look at synaptic on the remote machine I've been using to see if

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread David Wright
l some gfx just to get x or wayland. > > That's not the important first impression however. Installing without > a root pw, I am prevented from doing anything to the system setup cuz > everything but synaptic wants a root pw, and does not accept my pw as > user 1000 for sudo. Security s

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Dan Ritter
gene heskett wrote: > > On 6/12/22 10:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: > That's not the important first impression however. Installing without a root > pw, I am prevented from doing anything to the system se

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread David Wright
On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 19:41:34 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 13:32:54 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 11:47:46 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > > Let me go look at synaptic on the remote machine I've been using to > > > see if its installable. yes, but

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread David Wright
On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 19:49:03 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 14:49:07 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 01:32:54PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > And I'm back from install 28, booted to the old install, the bios > > > cannot see the drive I just

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 Jun 2022 at 03:53:49 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Thomas Schmitt composed on 2022-06-12 09:21 (UTC+0200): > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> The fact remains that xterm is not in the pulldown menu's, I have konsole > >> and termit, and termit will work from x and give me mouse driven copy/

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread gene heskett
, but in trying to leave out the dependecy hell of broken packages trying to install tde-trinity so I could get back to familiar, bug free services. but I had to install some gfx just to get x or wayland. That's not the important first impression however. Installing without a root pw, I am prevented

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, June 12, 2022 07:53:21 AM gene heskett wrote: > What I do have is konsole and termit, no xterm. For me, konsole does fine -- I can C from it with the mouse (and, presumably, keystrokes).

OT: why (was: Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails)

2022-06-12 Thread rhkramer
I was going to restrain myself and not send this, but I succumbed ... sorry for the noise. On Sunday, June 12, 2022 03:53:49 AM Felix Miata wrote: > Why this tangent to Gene's foibles? I shouldn't do this, but ... (And no criticism intended of anyone, specifically Thomas Schmitt.)

Re: xterm. Was: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, it comes to me that Debian has an official screenshot of one of my xterms. So here is an xterm with -bg wheat -fg black: https://screenshots.debian.net/shrine/screenshot/15899/simage/large-de6e648f9ed3746646ab2120ba5da1f0.png It is a bit higher than usual, to take all lines which i

Re: xterm. Was: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > xterm cannot be found by synaptic or apt either. The package xterm exists and has versions in all current releases of Debian. See: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xterm Try sudo apt-get install xterm or sudo apt install xterm > So I'll repeat, what is this

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 07:53:21AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > gene@coyote:~$ bash: xterm: command not found > > xterm cannot be found by synaptic or apt either. unicorn:~$ apt policy xterm xterm: Installed: 366-1+deb11u1 Candidate: 366-1+deb11u1 Version table: *** 366-1+deb11u1 500

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 07:53:21AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Sunday, 12 June 2022 03:21:50 EDT Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > The fact remains that xterm is not in the pulldown menu's, I have > > > konsole and termit, and termit will work from x and give me

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, 12 June 2022 03:21:50 EDT Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > The fact remains that xterm is not in the pulldown menu's, I have > > konsole and termit, and termit will work from x and give me mouse > > driven copy/ paste. But its a teeny litle thing on this monitors

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > It does have efi, but its disabled in the bios. The "BIOS" of ASUS PRIME Z370-A II is EFI. (Unfortunate naming, indeed, as we normally use "BIOS" for legacy PC-BIOS, the one which boots by executing the x86 code in the MBR.) If you switched to legacy CSM mode (*), then

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Thomas Schmitt composed on 2022-06-12 09:21 (UTC+0200): > Gene Heskett wrote: >> The fact remains that xterm is not in the pulldown menu's, I have konsole >> and termit, and termit will work from x and give me mouse driven copy/ >> paste. But its a teeny litle thing on this monitors screen. >

xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > The fact remains that xterm is not in the pulldown menu's, I have konsole > and termit, and termit will work from x and give me mouse driven copy/ > paste. But its a teeny litle thing on this monitors screen. Execute xterm & in one of the terminal windows which the

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, 11 June 2022 14:53:13 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 07:13:38 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Friday, 10 June 2022 08:23:26 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > > On Friday, 10 June 2022 02:45:20 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Friday, 10 June 2022 00:45:19 EDT David

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, 11 June 2022 13:28:55 EDT Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > And I did try ext2 for an fs choice. Made no difference, it would > > > not set the bootable flag. Tried both fat16 and fat32 too. > > > Spmething would not allow settiing the bootable flag. > > The

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread gene heskett
the latter type of screens > on the remote machine. > > > > > > Graphical expert mode would probably work as well and you could > > > > > save > > > > > the screenshots but I prefer completely text mode to be sure > > > > > not

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, 11 June 2022 14:52:36 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 11:47:46 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:01:48 EDT Andy Smith wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 07:31:36AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:49:57 EDT

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, 11 June 2022 14:49:07 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 01:32:54PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 11:47:46 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:01:48 EDT Andy Smith wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, 11 June 2022 13:32:54 EDT gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 11:47:46 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:01:48 EDT Andy Smith wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 07:31:36AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > On Saturday, 11

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 11:47:46AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:01:48 EDT Andy Smith wrote: > > Gene, come on. You know how to select and paste out of an xterm. It > > does not matter what that xterm is doing, whether it is displaying a > > file of locally

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread David Wright
rm text screens. You've been asked to use the latter type of screens on the remote machine. > > > > Graphical expert mode would probably work as well and you could > > > > save > > > > the screenshots but I prefer completely text mode to be sure not to > >

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread David Wright
On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 07:13:38 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Friday, 10 June 2022 08:23:26 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > On Friday, 10 June 2022 02:45:20 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > > On Friday, 10 June 2022 00:45:19 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > > On Thu 09 Jun 2022 at 23:59:06 (-0400), gene

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread David Wright
On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 11:47:46 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:01:48 EDT Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 07:31:36AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:49:57 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > > > AFAIK, there's no way of recording

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 01:32:54PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 11:47:46 EDT gene heskett wrote: > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:01:48 EDT Andy Smith wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 07:31:36AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > > On Saturday, 11

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, 11 June 2022 11:47:46 EDT gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:01:48 EDT Andy Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 07:31:36AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:49:57 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > > > AFAIK, there's no way

Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And I did try ext2 for an fs choice. Made no difference, it would not set > > the bootable flag. Tried both fat16 and fat32 too. Spmething would not > > allow settiing the bootable flag. The boot flag is set to a partition's description in the partition table, not to

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