Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 23 apr 13, 10:06:18, Richard Owlett wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: By the way, you have an unusually brusque way of stating conditions rather than asking questions, which comes across as slightly rude. Apologies, I've just been chastised by relatives and friends for going in the other

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-28 Thread Richard Owlett
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 23 apr 13, 10:06:18, Richard Owlett wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: By the way, you have an unusually brusque way of stating conditions rather than asking questions, which comes across as slightly rude. Apologies, I've just been chastised by relatives and friends for

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 28 April 2013 13:57:02 Richard Owlett wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 23 apr 13, 10:06:18, Richard Owlett wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: By the way, you have an unusually brusque way of stating conditions rather than asking questions, which comes across as slightly rude.

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-27 Thread Richard Owlett
Charles Kroeger wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:10:03 +0200 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: That seems to be his whole approach. Holistic maybe ☺ Yes, with a additional complication of keeping in mind requirements of different sets of machines. Requirements of Set A conflict with

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-27 Thread Jhon Edison Castañeda Lozano
Hi!, Read this documents http://www.pello.info/filez/firewall/iptables.html or this http://www.pello.info/filez/IPTABLES_en_21_segundos.html Explained this quite practical examples. The problem is that this in Spanish, but nothing that google translator can not fix. Greetings. Jhon

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-27 Thread Richard Owlett
Jhon Edison Castañeda Lozano wrote: Hi!, Read this documents http://www.pello.info/filez/firewall/iptables.html or this http://www.pello.info/filez/IPTABLES_en_21_segundos.html Explained this quite practical examples. The problem is that this in Spanish, but nothing that google translator can

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-26 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:10:03 +0200 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: That seems to be his whole approach. Holistic maybe ☺ -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:40:01 +0200 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I have never noticed my free version of 9 updating itself. :-/ That's good, it won't. If you occasionally try: #apt-get autoremove you will probably see it is trying to rid itself of 'acroread' files. If you want to

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 25 April 2013 16:48:53 Charles Kroeger wrote: I have never noticed my free version of 9 updating itself. :-/ That's good, it won't. If you occasionally try: Thanks for the reply, Charles! I am quite happy with things as they are, for now. The OP was worried about his copy of

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 24 April 2013 11:40:17 Richard Owlett wrote: One thing perhaps wasn't clear. I was referring to my Windows experience Sorry, Richard. :-( I didn't take in that you had actually _said_ that. You simply can't use your Windows experience to predict the problems that you will have

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 24 April 2013 11:40:17 Richard Owlett wrote: One thing perhaps wasn't clear. I was referring to my Windows experience Sorry, Richard. :-( I didn't take in that you had actually _said_ that. You simply can't use your Windows experience to predict the problems

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 25 April 2013 17:39:14 Richard Owlett wrote: I think I'm happier for having looked for shoals first. Looking for shoals is one thing. But you are creating them. And I always read manuals first. It isn't that unusual. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Jochen Spieker wrote: [snip] But I still don't completely understand your situation. You said you are on dialup and want to prevent unnecessary traffic. Can't you just disable auto-dialling? Which specific programs use the network without your consent? Auto dialing has been disabled for

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
A little bit OT: On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 04:49 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Adobe Reader Why not using document viewer, aka Evince or something else? I'm not against proprietary software, drivers etc., but I'm using Linux for good reasons and I don't know why I should install any software from

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Jochen Spieker
Richard Owlett: Adobe Reader wants to update itself and I haven't found a way to disable it. If view pdf with it when I also happen be connected it just barges in and consumes my bandwidth. http://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/disable-automatic-updates-acrobat-reader.html :) But I understand

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:28:17AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the internet after explicitly asking for permission.

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Ralf Mardorf wrote: A little bit OT: On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 04:49 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Adobe Reader Why not using document viewer, aka Evince or something else? I'm not against proprietary software, drivers etc., but I'm using Linux for good reasons and I don't know why I should

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Richard Owlett
Jochen Spieker wrote: Richard Owlett: Adobe Reader wants to update itself and I haven't found a way to disable it. If view pdf with it when I also happen be connected it just barges in and consumes my bandwidth. http://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/disable-automatic-updates-acrobat-reader.html

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 24 April 2013 12:13:07 Richard Owlett wrote: I've the free version of 9.00. Listed option to disable updating not available. I have never noticed my free version of 9 updating itself. :-/ Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 24 April 2013 12:13:07 Richard Owlett wrote: I've the free version of 9.00. Listed option to disable updating not available. The Linux version of 9 (I have 9.5.4) has nothing at all of any kind about updating. So far as I can see it is not an option. Are you sure that you are

Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Richard Owlett
I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the internet after explicitly asking for permission. The response to the request may be: No Always YES Ask each occurrence --

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:28:17AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the internet after explicitly asking for permission. The response to the

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Richard Owlett
Dan Ritter wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:28:17AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the internet after explicitly asking for permission. The

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Jochen Spieker
Richard Owlett: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the internet after explicitly asking for permission. The response to the request may be: No Always YES Ask

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 23 April 2013 15:43:23 Dan Ritter wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:28:17AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the internet

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 23 April 2013 16:06:18 Richard Owlett wrote: I want to prevent an app from deciding to update on its schedule not mine. I don't have any applications set to update automatically. That is the simple solution to that problem! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Jochen Spieker
Richard Owlett: Apologies, I've just been chastised by relatives and friends for going in the other direction. Never mind. I was trying to make clear I want only minimal connectivity. As to the per program feature, I want to prevent an app from deciding to update on its schedule not mine.

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:28:17AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the internet after explicitly asking for permission. The response to the

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Wayne Topa
On 04/23/2013 11:06 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:28:17AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Richard Owlett
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 23 April 2013 15:43:23 Dan Ritter wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:28:17AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 23 April 2013 17:32:34 Richard Owlett wrote: I couldn't ask a specific question as I don't know anything about it in the Linux world. The problem is, if you don't ask a specific question, we cannot give a specific answer. The result of what you did ask is that you have had quite a

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Jochen Spieker
Richard Owlett: Lisi Reisz wrote: Also, I had to do a double take to work out which bit was a question, rather than a statement. I think that he is asking us to recommend some reading matter. I intended the subject line to convey request for reading material. Hrmmh, it appears I

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:28:17AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I will be using email, Usenet, browser and occasionally file downloading. Nothing on my system should look/act like a server. I want all programs to access the internet after explicitly asking for permission. The response to the

Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-23 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:20:02 +0200 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: When I had shorewall running the console was flooded with messages about access attempts. I like shorewall, lots of separate configurable files, or if you're lazy just run it configured by way of example