Was this a compilation error? Shouldn't have failed, as that is the
correct and documented way of doing it. What was the error message? (I
remember a friend who tried compiling and it didn't work because he didn't
have bin86 installed. Would cut out because it couldn't find as86.)
Of course,
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 20:53, Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:42:29AM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
I'm still very much getting used to Debian, however, and the long time
between releases is stopping my Dad from switching, since he wants to
switch to the most updated
I definitely came to debian after two other distributions (Red Hat and
SuSE). Part of it is that Debian is not seen on many Store shelves. I
had to seek it out based on reputation. Part of it also is that the
initial installation is not slick. For me that is now part of its
attraction. I should
MS == Mark Suter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MS My estimate of 2/5 is based on an understanding of all members,
MS a fair few of whom don't bring their boxes to the meetings and
MS treat the meetings as social occasions.
*cough* Are you sure they've not just cottoned on to the fact,
At 12:48 2000/07/31 +0900, you wrote:
Adam Scriven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, for him to go to 2.2, and get the upgrades that he wants, he
needs to reinstall. He has no problem with this, and I've recommend
Debian, but no matter how stable the frozen version is, it IS
STILL frozen, and
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:03:57PM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
Also, as you mentioned, kernel 2.4 is out now, however many known
problems it has, it is out.
it is not the final version. it has many problems right now, the
current 2.4-kernels are still beta...
moritz
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To: Olaf Meeuwissen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Is Debian the last OS ? (Long reply)
At 12:48 2000/07/31 +0900, you wrote:
Adam Scriven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, for him to go to 2.2, and get the upgrades
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:03:57PM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
Also, as you mentioned, kernel 2.4 is out now, however many known
problems it has, it is out. 2.2 has known problems as well, it just has
less of them.
However, 2.2 in some incarnations has proven useful and stable. The
evidence
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:09:28PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
If I am right, then to keep users, you should try to update kernels in
minor releases.
The kernel is upgraded in point releases when justified (an exploit
for example). However, there's no way Debian can release a new major
kernel
Quoting Art Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I definitely came to debian after two other distributions (Red Hat and
SuSE).
I first tried linux with slackware, but only because it offered
installation with umsdos and I had a 500MB 486 with W3.1.
X wouldn't do much more than crash in 8MB, leaving me
Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:09:28PM -0600, Art Edwards
wrote:
> If I am right, then to keep users, you should try to update kernels
in
> minor releases.
The kernel is upgraded in point releases when justified (an exploit
for example). However, there's no way Debian can
Adam Scriven wrote:
At 20:53 2000/07/30 -0500, you wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:42:29AM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
I'm still very much getting used to Debian, however, and the long time
between releases is stopping my Dad from switching, since he wants to
switch to the most
Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:09:28PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
If I am right, then to keep users, you should try to update kernels in
minor releases.
The kernel is upgraded in point releases when justified (an exploit
for example). However, there's no way Debian
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 09:50:45AM -0600, Arthur H. Edwards wrote:
The question was Why is Debian the last, rather than the first,
distribution? To a large degree your response is the answer. People brand
new to Linux eat kernels, they don't compile them. So, if you don't want it
to be the
montefin wrote:
Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:03:57PM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
Linux is a wonderful tool. We all know it. But it IS just that, a
tool. If a distribution, no matter how good it's intentions, can't keep
up, then it will be relegated to the
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 11:03:50AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
1) The switch from RedHat to Debian is a reinstall. Going from RedHat
5.2 to 6 is a reinstall. One's not a whole lot harder than the other,
as far as I know.
Going from one version to another, even in a point release, in
Adam Scriven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kernel sources are *always* available at www.kernel.org.
They are, but he's not advanced enough yet to compile his own kernel.
He's a very bright guy, and he'll figure it out eventually, but it's a very
minor hobby for him right now, and he just hasn't
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:03:57PM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
But, because of the slow updates, and because it is now 2 releases behind,
Not from my perspective. Remember, you always have the choice of
upgrading to a frozen or unstable whenever you like if you /really/ like
the bleeding
no effect on that goal,
| and we're not in competition with anyone but ourselves.
I agree. And we should enjoy all those newbies going on RedHat and
others. They are learning and if motivated they will turn on debian. Yes,
debian is the last OS... to switch to :)
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On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 12:28:26AM +1000, Mark Suter wrote:
Folks,
How common is the Debian last practice, that is, try other
distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
to stay?
You know, this reminds me of one of Murphy's Laws:
What you are looking for is
Arthur H. Edwards wrote:
The question was Why is Debian the last, rather than the first,
distribution? To a large degree your response is the answer. People
brand new to Linux eat kernels, they don't compile them. So, if you
don't want it to be the last distribution, perhaps you shouldn't
I learned Debian as, basically, a complete newbie to Unix/Linux. I think
it's mostly a matter of visibility. Newbies are just not aware of
Debian.
I don't know what you'll think, but perhaps the way we Debian users
could
promote Debian to our colleagues is by referring the old W95 way,
Folks,
How common is the Debian last practice, that is, try other
distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
to stay?
Within Humbug[1], approximately 2/5 of the membership are now
Debian users; however, only a few went straight to Debian.
For me, Debian is the high point in
I could not get Debian installed beyond the base system three years ago because
it was confusing, so Debian could not be my first Linux. I went to Caldera
OpenLinux and used that for a year, then I tried Debian again and got it
installed. I liked Caldera, but Debian is much better for me. I
At 00:28 2000/07/31 +1000, you wrote:
How common is the Debian last practice, that is, try other distributions
(including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian to stay?
I started out as a user on a X-friend's Yggrassil (sp?) system. Then we
switched to SlackWare, and that was also my first
. anonymous
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Most newcomers to Linux will (understandably) start with a commercial
distribution that they can find shrink wrapped on the shelves. That
pretty much rules Debian out for them, but those who discover it later
on tend to stick with it.
Completely new to Linux/Unix, I started with Redhat 4.1, and
- Original Message -
From: I. Tura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark Suter [EMAIL PROTECTED];
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Is Debian the last OS ?
On the other hand... I've never seen any stastics telling what are the
most used GNU distros. I
Mark Suter wrote:
Folks,
How common is the Debian last practice, that is, try other
distributions (including non-GNU/Linux) and then come to Debian
to stay?
cut snip
While the Debian last practice is probably the most common way that
users become Debian users, it's in my opinion the
When my friends at school freshmen year all bagered me for using windows, I
agreed to
let them install linux on my machine. The first go was slackware, but because
my
computer was all brand new hardware, there wasn't any support in linux for it.
So
that didn't go very far. We then tried
Being relatively new to Linux (only year and 1/2), my first go at Debian
was slink. Recommended to me by a friend (an ISP), it seemed the way to
go. I'd just started Uni, and had a brand new laptop, that for the life
of me, I couldn't configure X on, so Debian got dumped in favour of
Redhat, which
when I was last at humbug (about 6 months ago) everyone was using
redhat! what happened??
Did people like Ashley, matt and the like convert some people!?!?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:49:50 Peter Good wrote:
Being relatively new to Linux (only year and 1/2), my first go at Debian
was slink.
Patrick,
when I was last at humbug (about 6 months ago) everyone was using
redhat! what happened??
Did people like Ashley, matt and the like convert some people!?!?
My estimate of 2/5 is based on an understanding of all members,
a fair few of whom don't bring their boxes to the meetings
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:42:29AM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
I'm still very much getting used to Debian, however, and the long time
between releases is stopping my Dad from switching, since he wants to
switch to the most updated release possible if he switches, but even
Potato's just
At 20:53 2000/07/30 -0500, you wrote:
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:42:29AM -0400, Adam Scriven wrote:
I'm still very much getting used to Debian, however, and the long time
between releases is stopping my Dad from switching, since he wants to
switch to the most updated release possible if he
Adam Scriven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, for him to go to 2.2, and get the upgrades that he wants, he
needs to reinstall. He has no problem with this, and I've recommend
Debian, but no matter how stable the frozen version is, it IS
STILL frozen, and not the officially released version, so
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