Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

Le 04/01/2018 à 05:32, Michael Stone a écrit : No, it's a pretty common shorthand to say "routable" to mean "routable on the public internet", especially where there's no real possibility of confusing it with specifically non-routable blocks like 127.0.0.0/8. This is still a mistake. In

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 07:04:46PM -0600, David Wright wrote: (In view of https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/01/msg00126.html do you mean public?) No, it's a pretty common shorthand to say "routable" to mean "routable on the public internet", especially where there's no real

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On Wednesday, January 03, 2018 01:39:14 PM Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:36:32AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >I've read in this thread) that traceroute may provide a way forward: > In general, no. Many ISPs use RFC1918 space internally, so you need to > skip an unknown

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On Wed 03 Jan 2018 at 13:39:14 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:36:32AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >I've read in this thread) that traceroute may provide a way forward: > > In general, no. Many ISPs use RFC1918 space internally, so you need > to skip an unknown

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

Le 03/01/2018 à 03:19, David Wright a écrit : For example, and sticking to unroutable addresses, they might be on 192.168.… in one place, 10.… in another etc. Private addresses are routable. They are just not routed over the public internet. Link local addresses (169.254.0.0/16) are not

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:36:32AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I've read in this thread) that traceroute may provide a way forward: In general, no. Many ISPs use RFC1918 space internally, so you need to skip an unknown number of hops before you get to a routeable IP, at which point you

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

rhkra...@gmail.com (2018-01-03): > I hope the OP is still "listening". If he is, he is probably enjoying the time wasted by his nonsensical question. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On Wednesday, January 03, 2018 07:54:06 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > At the moment, he's already been told how to get "ip" to resolve > hostnames (in his other thread -- "ip -r route"), seems he didn't like > that answer; and made a new one. I hope the OP is still "listening". (And I'm not the OP.)

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 11:15:16 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> > Max Power wrote: >> > > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] >> >

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Max Power wrote: >> > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] >> >

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On Tue 02 Jan 2018 at 11:15:16 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Max Power wrote: > > > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] > > > before starting browsing or any remote connection... > > > > Checking

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Max Power wrote: > > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] > > before starting browsing or any remote

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Max Power wrote: >> > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] >> > before starting browsing or any remote connection... >> >> Checking the hostname of an RFC1918 address will

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 02:47:39PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Hi, Max. I don't know what your intentions are in repeating your qualms after two solutions were offered to you. Either get along with the new "ip" or just install the old net-tools. They are not going away (at least not as long

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 04:03:46PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Max Power wrote: > > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] > > before starting browsing or any remote connection... > > Checking the hostname of an RFC1918 address will nearly never provide > you with

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Max Power wrote: > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] > before starting browsing or any remote connection... Checking the hostname of an RFC1918 address will nearly never provide you with an ISP's name, even if you

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 01:05:58PM +, Curt wrote: [...] > There just was another thread around here initiated by Max Power, the > current OP, I do believe [...] Indeed, it was Max (cc'ing him/her just in case). I didn't remember, but checked

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote: My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] before starting browsing or any remote connection... With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal! With le last release 'Stretch' the net-tools packet

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

On 2018-01-02, wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote: >> My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] >> before starting browsing or any remote connection... >> With the 'route' command it was so easy '#

Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote: > My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] > before starting browsing or any remote connection... > With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal! >

Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT] before starting browsing or any remote connection... With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal! With le last release 'Stretch' the net-tools packet is not installed by default. But if this command was so