Last time I've checked, this deb-url contained galeon and ximian packages
of mozilla. They use a strange numbering scheme for the libnspr4 package
and are never uptodate.
Take the deb of galeon and install it with dpkg -i galeon.deb.
NB: galeon won't work with mozilla0.9 from kitame. You need to
+ Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com:
Where did you get your .deb's from? The links on the website seem to be
dead!
Craig
Mozilla I'm getting through the standard Debian packages.
Galeon I downloaded from ftp.sourceforge.net:
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 09:00:49PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Hall Stevenson writes:
...you've pretty indicated that *nothing* will satisfy you, even a browser
you've never tried.
??? What's your problem?
oh goody, a flame war! i can't wait to see what productive
traffic THIS generates.
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 07:15:48PM -0500, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Karsten M. Self writes:
Version? Of both Galeon and Mozilla.
0.8.3 and M18-3.
There's no point in persuing this further, though.
Your option. Be aware that the issues you have are addressed in more
recent
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:20:50AM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
I might add that I'm quite pleased with Galeon.
After reading your review and seeing the screeshot (are those tabs what
I think they
GCC? gzip? gopher? :)
On Tue, 15 May 2001, will trillich wrote:
snip
i've never tried galeon, but i have an opinion: who'd wanna
browse with software having G as a first initial? eesh!
:)
--
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Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:14:54AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
Karsten M. Self wrote:
Mozilla I'm getting through the standard Debian packages.
It hasn't changed version since stable. Is that okay?
No need for anything newer?
you need at least 0.8, 0.9 is much better though.
Karsten M. Self writes:
http://home.netcom.com/GNU/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html
I get a 404.
I might add that I'm quite pleased with Galeon.
I wish I was. It still crashes, and it still gives me no control of
images.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, Karsten M. Self
(kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
I've updated my review of GNU/Linux web browsing alternatives, largely
in light of recent advances by the Mozilla and Galeon teams. I'm
looking for feedback, particularly on anything I might have missed.
On Mon, May 14, 2001, ktb wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
I've updated my review of GNU/Linux web browsing alternatives, largely
in light of recent advances by the Mozilla and Galeon teams. I'm
looking for feedback, particularly on anything I might
on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:02:14PM -0500, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Karsten M. Self writes:
http://home.netcom.com/GNU/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html
I get a 404.
I might add that I'm quite pleased with Galeon.
I wish I was. It still crashes, and it still gives me no control
being a bit of a Mozilla advocate i have two small comments;
1) lastest development release is 0.9, nightlies are 0.9.1
2) the screenshot is quite old, mozilla is now on its fourth skin, the one in
the screenshot was its second
i'm not certain if you ve tested the 0.9 release, if not i
Thanks Karsten for the interview, very useful, just some remarks:
1. Opera
Opera is in stable 5.0 now (as of yesterday, at least on the ftp
server, you might want to give it a try, debs available, it is a
very easy call to test)
2. Netscape
It is in 4.77 now, and though not much changed, I
On Tuesday 15 May 2001 07:45, William Leese wrote:
being a bit of a Mozilla advocate i have two small comments;
1) lastest development release is 0.9, nightlies are 0.9.1
oh, one warning: galeon seems to crash very often with 0.9, much more often
than mozilla does.
perhaps instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2001, ktb wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
I've updated my review of GNU/Linux web browsing alternatives, largely
in light of recent advances by the Mozilla and Galeon teams. I'm
looking for feedback,
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
I might add that I'm quite pleased with Galeon.
I am not. Try use it with 64MB of RAM
--
Best regard
hashao
Where did you get your .deb's from? The links on the website seem to be
dead!
Craig
On 14 May 2001 21:36:07 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:02:14PM -0500, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Karsten M. Self writes:
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 06:51:47AM +0100, Viktor Lakics ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Thanks Karsten for the interview, very useful, just some remarks:
1. Opera
Opera is in stable 5.0 now (as of yesterday, at least on the ftp
server, you might want to give it a try, debs available, it is a
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:20:19PM +0800, ha shao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
I might add that I'm quite pleased with Galeon.
I am not. Try use it with 64MB of RAM
I'll give that a shot. Hint: LILO boot parameters
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:07:42PM +1000, Craig Holyoak ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
On 14 May 2001 21:36:07 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:02:14PM -0500, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Karsten M. Self writes:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:41:40PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:20:19PM +0800, ha shao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I am not. Try use it with 64MB of RAM
I'll give that a shot. Hint: LILO boot parameters are your friend. I
once booted a RH box on 16 MB,
http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html
- Original Message -
From: Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Karsten's browser reviews (updated)
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:40:24PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 06:51:47AM +0100, Viktor Lakics ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
3. Sorry, I do not have opinion about Galeon I never tried it.
What?
Wait a minute.
You're a GNU/Linux user, and you *don't* have an
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:20:08PM +0800, ha shao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:41:40PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:20:19PM +0800, ha shao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I am not. Try use it with 64MB of RAM
I'll give that a shot.
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:20:19PM +0800, ha shao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
I might add that I'm quite pleased with Galeon.
I am not. Try use it with 64MB of RAM
Doing same.
Galeon's running with about 17 tabs
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
I've updated my review of GNU/Linux web browsing alternatives, largely
in light of recent advances by the Mozilla and Galeon teams. I'm
looking for feedback, particularly on anything I might have missed.
I wrote:
It still crashes, and it [Galeon] still gives me no control of images.
Karsten M. Self writes:
What image controls do you want?
Netscape lets me turn off images in preferences and then click on
individual image icons to download them. It also has an images command to
download all the
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:49:17AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Isn't w3m a Japanese-oriented invention? Is w3mmee related to w3m?
Yes. w3mmee base on w3m with some code to make i18n correct. :)
oh, I saw people use ulimit to set up a controlled environment.
--
Best regard
hashao
Karsten M. Self wrote:
Mozilla I'm getting through the standard Debian packages.
It hasn't changed version since stable. Is that okay?
No need for anything newer?
http://galeon.sourceforge.net/download.html says we need the
mozilla devel package from
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
I might add that I'm quite pleased with Galeon.
After reading your review and seeing the screeshot (are those tabs what
I think they are???) I decided I had to try it. I changed my mind when
I saw that it depends on GNOME
have you tried skipstone? it's basicaly like galeon, without all the
garbage.
http://muhri.net/skipstone
--
Forrest English
http://truffula.net
When we have nothing left to give
There will be no reason for us to live
But when we have nothing left to lose
You will have nothing left to use
if galeon seems a bit slow... i've had a great time using skipstone on
my laptop. p2 266, 64 megs of ram. works wonderfuly, never has it used
more than 25 megs of ram (with 4 websites open in different tabs).
--
Forrest English
http://truffula.net
When we have nothing left to give
There will
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 09:01:10AM -0700, Forrest English wrote:
have you tried skipstone? it's basicaly like galeon, without all the
garbage.
http://muhri.net/skipstone
Thanks, I'll look in to it.
(looks at screenshots)
It does look nice.
(looks at dependencies)
It looks even better.
noah writes:
I changed my mind when I saw that it depends on GNOME crap. Can't I
install a browser without installing a fscking desktop environment?
Yes. Galeon, for example. Gnome libraries != Gnome desktop
environment.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:22:29AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
noah writes:
I changed my mind when I saw that it depends on GNOME crap. Can't I
install a browser without installing a fscking desktop environment?
Yes. Galeon, for example. Gnome libraries != Gnome desktop
environment.
Not
On 15 May 2001, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:22:29AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
noah writes:
I changed my mind when I saw that it depends on GNOME crap. Can't I
install a browser without installing a fscking desktop environment?
Yes. Galeon, for example.
William Leese wrote:
i'm not certain if you ve tested the 0.9 release, if not i strongly suggest
doing so (performance has *greatly* improved, though there still needs work
to be done on the startup times and ofcourse memory usage) and perhaps also
checking a nightly build so you can attempt
noah writes:
I'm not about to install libglade (wich is used to build the interface),
libxml and every other standard gnome library (quote from the galeon
INSTALL file) just to get a browser.
That's a perfectly good reason not to install Galeon, but it still isn't
true that it requires you to
noah writes:
I'm not about to install libglade (wich is used to build the
interface),
libxml and every other standard gnome library (quote from the
galeon
INSTALL file) just to get a browser.
That's a perfectly good reason not to install Galeon, but it still
isn't
true that it requires
I'd like to endorse the endorsements of Skipstone. For me, it's been
fast, light and dependable (as browsers go). There's a lot that it
doesn't claim or try to do, but for simple browsing, it's the best
solution I've found (I've tried Netscape, Mozilla, and Opera).
And when it crashes, it
Karsten M. Self wrote:
Isn't w3m a Japanese-oriented invention?
It was written by someone from that country, but it is oriented much
more to people who want a small, fast, correct, and excellent text mode
browser.
--
see shy jo
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:07:42PM +1000, Craig Holyoak wrote:
Where did you get your .deb's from? The links on the website seem to be
dead!
Just picked up the Galeon/Mozilla/various libs/kitchen sink package
from a combination of:
deb http://www.markybob.com/mozilla/deb/ ./
and debian
Forrest English wrote:
have you tried skipstone? it's basicaly like galeon, without all the
garbage.
Debian package search results
Release Quality Package (size)
testing100%skipstone 0.7-1 (995.5k)
unstable100%skipstone 0.7-2 (167.7k)
Strange that 0.7-2
Galeon I downloaded from ftp.sourceforge.net:
ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/galeon/
...currently looks like: galeon_0.10.5-1.mozilla.0.8.1_i386.deb
I see only rpm files and tar.gz files there. The download page
says to look in ftp://galeon.ufies.org/pub/galeon/debian
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 07:36:57AM -0500, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I wrote:
It still crashes, and it [Galeon] still gives me no control of images.
Karsten M. Self writes:
What image controls do you want?
Netscape lets me turn off images in preferences and then click on
Karsten M. Self writes:
Settings / Preferences / Advanced / Filtering / Cookie Manager
...brings up a Persistent Data Manger dialog with options for:
There is no 'Filtering' under ' Settings / Preferences / Advanced'. There
is under 'Browsing', but it offers no relevant choices.
You're
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 06:15:40PM -0500, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Karsten M. Self writes:
Settings / Preferences / Advanced / Filtering / Cookie Manager
...brings up a Persistent Data Manger dialog with options for:
There is no 'Filtering' under ' Settings /
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 06:17:10AM -0400, geordie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
I've updated my review of GNU/Linux web browsing alternatives, largely
in light of recent advances by the Mozilla and Galeon teams. I'm
looking for feedback,
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:14:54AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Karsten M. Self wrote:
Mozilla I'm getting through the standard Debian packages.
It hasn't changed version since stable. Is that okay?
No need for anything newer?
Karsten M. Self writes:
Version? Of both Galeon and Mozilla.
0.8.3 and M18-3.
There's no point in persuing this further, though.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:36:42PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:22:29AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
noah writes:
I changed my mind when I saw that it depends on GNOME crap. Can't I
install a browser without installing a fscking desktop environment?
Yes.
* John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010515 20:29]:
Karsten M. Self writes:
Version? Of both Galeon and Mozilla.
0.8.3 and M18-3.
There's no point in persuing this further, though.
Just stick with Netscape Navigator/Communicator... you've pretty
indicated that *nothing* will satisfy you,
Hall Stevenson writes:
...you've pretty indicated that *nothing* will satisfy you, even a browser
you've never tried.
??? What's your problem?
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:55:35AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:20:19PM +0800, ha shao ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I am not. Try use it with 64MB of RAM
Doing same.
Galeon's running with about 17 tabs open. I'm starting to cut into
swap. OK, when
I've updated my review of GNU/Linux web browsing alternatives, largely
in light of recent advances by the Mozilla and Galeon teams. I'm
looking for feedback, particularly on anything I might have missed.
http://home.netcom.com/GNU/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html
I might add that I'm quite pleased
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:34:22PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
I've updated my review of GNU/Linux web browsing alternatives, largely
in light of recent advances by the Mozilla and Galeon teams. I'm
looking for feedback, particularly on anything I might have missed.
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