Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-13 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Thursday 08 April 2004 20:06, Pigeon wrote: ...hack the video card's BIOS, so you get a penguin in POST instead of the video card manufacturer's logo? If you know how would you please tell us? :-) Thanks -- Kind regards Hans du Plooy Newington Consulting Services hansdp at newingtoncs dot

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-13 Thread Andrew Schulman
I always just `make include/linux/version.h` Thanks, that works. I added a mention of it and acknowledged you at http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/troubleshooting.html. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-13 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 02:08:34PM +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2004 20:06, Pigeon wrote: ...hack the video card's BIOS, so you get a penguin in POST instead of the video card manufacturer's logo? If you know how would you please tell us? :-) Well, the actual BIOS hack

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-12 Thread Andrew Schulman
I always just `make include/linux/version.h` Thanks, good suggestion. I'll try it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-11 Thread Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 04:52, Sridhar M.A. wrote: I am facing a problem in installing the nvidia binary driver with the latest kernel 2.6.5. With the earlier kernel versions, I could install the driver without any hassles. I get the following error message when I try to install it with

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-09 Thread Tim Connors
Frédéric Dreier [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:55:20 +0200: That's to be expected. It's the framebuffer. It exists because it works better for some people. Actually I though it was the way to get an higher resolution console. not really a 'must' but console looks better

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-09 Thread csj
On 8. April 2004 at 9:55AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's to be expected. It's the framebuffer. It exists because it works better for some people. Actually I though it was the way to get an higher resolution console. not really a 'must' but console looks better :-) Does it crash

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-09 Thread csj
On 8. April 2004 at 1:02AM -0700, William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:55:20AM +0200, Frédéric Dreier wrote: Actually I though it was the way to get an higher resolution console. not really a 'must' but console looks better :-) I don't use the Framebuffer

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread Frédéric Dreier
Actually I have more 'diffcult' experience with ATI than nvidia... the last time I checked, framebuffer still hangs when I switch from X to consoles with my ATI 9700. Your point? Even Linus tells people not to use framebuffer for anything unless they have to. my point is: In my case,

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frédéric Dreier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually I have more 'diffcult' experience with ATI than nvidia... the last time I checked, framebuffer still hangs when I switch from X to consoles with my ATI 9700. Your point? Even Linus tells people

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread Frédéric Dreier
That's to be expected. It's the framebuffer. It exists because it works better for some people. Actually I though it was the way to get an higher resolution console. not really a 'must' but console looks better :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread William Ballard
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:55:20AM +0200, Frédéric Dreier wrote: Actually I though it was the way to get an higher resolution console. not really a 'must' but console looks better :-) I don't use the Framebuffer because if I'm not in X I usually want to do some serious crunching, and `yes |

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Paul Johnson wrote: csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 6. April 2004 at 10:38AM -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Even Linus tells people not to use framebuffer for anything unless they have to. So how do you get the cute bootup penguin? Who needs a boot penguin when you only

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Andrew Schulman wrote: In kernel 2.6.5, make clean has become more aggressive and now removes some files that you need to build some modules, e.g. nvidia and vmware. If you run make clean after you build your kernel-- and this happens by default if, for example, you build the kernel with

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:55:20AM +0200, Fr?d?ric Dreier wrote: That's to be expected. It's the framebuffer. It exists because it works better for some people. Actually I though it was the way to get an higher resolution console. not really a 'must' but console looks better :-)

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:08:51AM +0800, csj wrote: On 6. April 2004 at 10:38AM -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Even Linus tells people not to use framebuffer for anything unless they have to. So how do you get the cute bootup penguin? ...hack the video card's

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread hugo vanwoerkom
Pigeon wrote: On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 09:55:20AM +0200, Fr?d?ric Dreier wrote: That's to be expected. It's the framebuffer. It exists because it works better for some people. Actually I though it was the way to get an higher resolution console. not really a 'must' but console looks better

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-08 Thread hugo vanwoerkom
Paul Johnson wrote: Frédéric Dreier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Johnson wrote: Steve Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is ATI support better than Nvidia ? As far as I know, both provide binary drivers, and nvidia was at this game much earlier than ati. I had nothing but bad experience

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 07:40:24AM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Gokul Poduval [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Go to http://www.minion.de/ and get the appropriate driver. 2) Realize that nVidia is more trouble than it's worth. 3) Chuck nVidia card, get a video card who

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 12:44, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Is there a good alternative to ati and nvidia that is good and open source friendly at this time in the market, or we are all screwed? Nothing that offers similar performance. If your focus isn't gaming but simply good graphics that

RE: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
To: Frédéric Dreier Cc: Steve Freitas; Gokul Poduval; Debian Users Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver Frédéric Dreier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Johnson wrote: Steve Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is ATI support better than Nvidia ? As far as I know, both provide binary drivers

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 15:07, Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL wrote: How is the ATI xfree driver any better than the NV xfree driver? At least for some cards (everything up to 7500 definitely, and I *think* 8500 and 9x00 series cards as well) have hardware 3D support in the radeon.o driver,

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Werner Mahr
Am Mittwoch, 7. April 2004 01:35 schrieb Miky J: The string (gcc was not found in the /proc/version ^^ So do you see that ? It doesn't see the string gcc while it's written gcc 3.3.3 They can't find (gcc, and I can't see this in your text, too . -- MfG usw. Werner Mahr

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Paul Johnson
This is an English-speaking mailing list. English is read from the top, down by the flow of context, not random order. Even first-year, non-native speakers pick up on this. Please turn your line wraps on, 72 columns is good. Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is the ATI

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 02:50:45PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: This is an English-speaking mailing list. English is read from the top, down by the flow of context, not random order. Even first-year, non-native speakers pick up on this. It's not what you say, so much as how you say it.

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Antony Gelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 02:50:45PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: This is an English-speaking mailing list. English is read from the top, down by the flow of context, not random order. Even first-year, non-native speakers pick up on this. It's not what

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread csj
On 6. April 2004 at 10:38AM -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Even Linus tells people not to use framebuffer for anything unless they have to. So how do you get the cute bootup penguin? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Andrew Schulman
I am facing a problem in installing the nvidia binary driver with the latest kernel 2.6.5. With the earlier kernel versions, I could install the driver without any hassles. I get the following error message when I try to install it with kernel 2.6.5: ERROR: Unable to determine the

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-07 Thread Paul Johnson
csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 6. April 2004 at 10:38AM -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Even Linus tells people not to use framebuffer for anything unless they have to. So how do you get the cute bootup penguin? Who needs a boot penguin when you only have to boot

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Gokul Poduval
1) Go to http://www.minion.de/ and get the appropriate driver. 2) Realize that nVidia is more trouble than it's worth. 3) Chuck nVidia card, get a video card who cares about the Linux community (like, say, ATI). How is ATI support better than Nvidia ? As far as I know, both provide binary

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Gokul Poduval [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Go to http://www.minion.de/ and get the appropriate driver. 2) Realize that nVidia is more trouble than it's worth. 3) Chuck nVidia card, get a video card who cares about the Linux community (like, say, ATI). How is ATI support better than

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Steve Freitas
How is ATI support better than Nvidia ? As far as I know, both provide binary drivers, and nvidia was at this game much earlier than ati. I had nothing but bad experience with Nvidia's binary drivers. They kept locking up my machine completely. The open-source alternative, XFree86's nv

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is ATI support better than Nvidia ? As far as I know, both provide binary drivers, and nvidia was at this game much earlier than ati. I had nothing but bad experience with Nvidia's binary drivers. They kept locking up my machine completely. The

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Frédéric Dreier
Paul Johnson wrote: Steve Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is ATI support better than Nvidia ? As far as I know, both provide binary drivers, and nvidia was at this game much earlier than ati. I had nothing but bad experience with Nvidia's binary drivers. They kept locking up my

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Sebastiaan
High, On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Sridhar M.A. wrote: I am facing a problem in installing the nvidia binary driver with the latest kernel 2.6.5. With the earlier kernel versions, I could install the driver without any hassles. I get the following error message when I try to install it with kernel

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 12:09:32AM -0700, Steve Freitas wrote: I had nothing but bad experience with Nvidia's binary drivers. They kept Can't say that. I never had any problems with the nvidia drivers. driver, is completely pathetic. The XFree86 Radeon driver, on the other hand, has performed

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Paul William
You and everybody else with a 2.6 kernel and an nVidiot card. I can't Nvidias latest drivers work with a 2.6.0 kernel. wait until I have money again so I can see just how far an nVidia card will sail when launched from a skyscraper rooftop. Any pointers? 1) Go to http://www.minion.de/ and

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Åsmund Ødegård
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 11:46, Paul William wrote: [snip] 3) Chuck nVidia card, get a video card who cares about the Linux community (like, say, ATI). I wouldn't say that /-| I have a FireGL card in my laptop, and it is really messy. mvh, -- [simula.research laboratory]

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Paul Johnson wrote: Gokul Poduval [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Go to http://www.minion.de/ and get the appropriate driver. 2) Realize that nVidia is more trouble than it's worth. 3) Chuck nVidia card, get a video card who cares about the Linux community (like, say, ATI). How is ATI support

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Robert L. Harris
Thus spake Paul William ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): You and everybody else with a 2.6 kernel and an nVidiot card. I can't Nvidias latest drivers work with a 2.6.0 kernel. I'm running 2.6.5 on debian unstable with the latest NVidia drivers and they work great. Only problem is every time I reboot

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Kolione
deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia unstable/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia modules-unstable/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia pre/i386/ i just use the stuff there saves time instead of compiling the kernel interface yourself On Mon, 2004-04-05 at

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
I'm having this problem with Toshiba 5105 laptop, kernel-2.6.4 and nvidia driver 1.0-5336 downloaded from Nvidia. There is about a 1/4 inch gap of the screen not being used on the right hand side of the screen running vertically. I used to be able to fix this problem (with kernel-2.4.x) by

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Werner Mahr
Am Dienstag, 6. April 2004 07:09 schrieb Paul William: I think you cannot use the nvidia drivers since 2.6.3. I have 5336 working with 2.6.4 without any modifications. -- MfG usw. Werner Mahr registered Linuxuser: 295882 pgp0.pgp Description: signature

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Werner Mahr
Am Dienstag, 6. April 2004 10:20 schrieb Sebastiaan: yes, nvidia doesn't support 2.6 out of the box. Fortunately there exists a patch. However, you can't use the Debian package, so I suggest to uninstall it first to prevent incorrect apt updates. Both NVidia and VMWare work correctly on my

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Paul William wrote: You and everybody else with a 2.6 kernel and an nVidiot card. I can't Nvidias latest drivers work with a 2.6.0 kernel. That is 5336? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Paul Johnson wrote: Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Go to http://www.minion.de/ and get the appropriate driver. 2) Realize that nVidia is more trouble than it's worth. 3) Chuck nVidia card, get a video card who cares about the Linux community (like, say, ATI). This from nvidia

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Miky J
I unfortunately not have the chance to criticize nvidia's driver since, I cannot make install their driver with their installer i have this message gcc-version-check failed: The string (gcc was not found in the /proc/version string: Linux version 2.6.4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (version gcc 3.3.3

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
Frédéric Dreier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Johnson wrote: Steve Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is ATI support better than Nvidia ? As far as I know, both provide binary drivers, and nvidia was at this game much earlier than ati. I had nothing but bad experience with Nvidia's

Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-05 Thread Sridhar M.A.
I am facing a problem in installing the nvidia binary driver with the latest kernel 2.6.5. With the earlier kernel versions, I could install the driver without any hassles. I get the following error message when I try to install it with kernel 2.6.5: ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-05 Thread Paul William
I think you cannot use the nvidia drivers since 2.6.3. Sridhar M.A. wrote: I am facing a problem in installing the nvidia binary driver with the latest kernel 2.6.5. With the earlier kernel versions, I could install the driver without any hassles. I get the following error message when I try to

Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am facing a problem in installing the nvidia binary driver with the latest kernel 2.6.5. You and everybody else with a 2.6 kernel and an nVidiot card. I can't wait until I have money again so I can see just how far an nVidia card will sail when