Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-11-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 01 oct 11, 16:39:12, Ken Heard wrote: By the way the Lenovo repair service was excellent; the problems with the optical drives were caused by the manufacturer rather than the laptop assembler. That R61 dating from 1998 is still going strong. I have an R61i myself and love it, but 13

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-10-10 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:01:00 +0100 Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: ... Having said that, I'm moderately impressed with Acer, I have a five-year-old laptop which was the cheapest available then, and which is still going strong, albeit with a bit more RAM and a bigger drive than it started

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-10-01 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony Campbell wrote: Having used both Thinkpads and HP, I'd never again choose a laptop that only had a touchpad. I find it almost impossible to avoid hitting the thing accidentally,. with unexpected results. The little joystick on the

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-30 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 29 Sep 2011, Camaleón wrote: [snip] My preferred brands for laptops are Toshiba and HP (the ones I have tested) and also have good references from Lenovo's (though not directly tried). Having used both Thinkpads and HP, I'd never again choose a laptop that only had a touchpad. I find

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-30 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
2011/9/29 Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt: 2011/9/29 mforestier mforest...@free.fr: Bonjour a toutes et tous! C'est mon premier message sur cette liste! Hopefully it's also the last in french; there's another list for that: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/ As for laptops,

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-30 Thread Joel Roth
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:50:46AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: 2011/9/29 Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt: As for laptops, i favour Toshiba (just bought one but keeping Windows for the moment) and Asus. You should really keep windows on your toshiba for the moment. I had to

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Lisi: On Thursday 29 September 2011 10:05:49 Nuno Magalhães wrote: some say nice things about Thinkpads, others say they're not built as they used to be. Those 2 statements are not necessarily contradictory. Thinkpads may still be good, whilst

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-30 Thread Lisi
On Friday 30 September 2011 20:47:56 Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Lisi: On Thursday 29 September 2011 10:05:49 Nuno Magalhães wrote: some say nice things about Thinkpads, others say they're not built as they used to be. Those 2 statements are not

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Роман Новиков
2011/9/29 Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr For a friend of mine, I am going to by a laptop/ In my country (france), it is impossible to get computer without $W exccept if you get acer.So she want to buy this one: eMachines G443-E352G32Mn - Ordinateur Portable 17,3'' - AMD E-350 (1,6

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread mforestier
Bonjour a toutes et tous! C'est mon premier message sur cette liste! C'est juste pour dire que je possede ce netbook: lemote-yeeloong 8101B que j'ai installe gNewSense, debian versions stable, testing et unstable dessus, que tout fonctionne tres bien, libre,... Et me tiens a disposition pour

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Nuno Magalhães
2011/9/29 mforestier mforest...@free.fr: Bonjour a toutes et tous! C'est mon premier message sur cette liste! Hopefully it's also the last in french; there's another list for that: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/ As for laptops, i favour Toshiba (just bought one but keeping Windows

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 29 September 2011 10:05:49 Nuno Magalhães wrote: some say nice things about Thinkpads, others say they're not built as they used to be. Those 2 statements are not necessarily contradictory. Thinkpads may still be good, whilst not being as good as they used to be. (I rather get

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread mforestier
I'm very sorry for my first message, in french! :-( So, I try traduce because it serves presentation too... I answered about netbook Lemote: It was just to say I have this netbook: lemote-yeeloong 8101B. I'm install gNewSense, debian versions stable, testing and unstable on different partitions.

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Роман Новиков
2011/9/29 mforestier mforest...@free.fr I'm very sorry for my first message, in french! :-( So, I try traduce because it serves presentation too... I answered about netbook Lemote: It was just to say I have this netbook: lemote-yeeloong 8101B. I'm install gNewSense, debian versions stable,

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Роман Новиков
2011/9/29 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com On Thursday 29 September 2011 10:05:49 Nuno Magalhães wrote: some say nice things about Thinkpads, others say they're not built as they used to be. Those 2 statements are not necessarily contradictory. Thinkpads may still be good, whilst not being as

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Joe
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:29:27 +0200 Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr wrote: For a friend of mine, I am going to by a laptop/ In my country (france), it is impossible to get computer without $W exccept if you get acer.So she want to buy this one: eMachines G443-E352G32Mn - Ordinateur

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
The problem to pay for an unwanted software from $M is one thing (whereat it is difficult to estimate the cost). But if you need a $W-OS to update the BIOS (e.g., with my HP Pavilion DV7) is IMHO a much bigger drawback. Check and clarify this point somehow before bying. -- Best regards,

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Thursday 29 September 2011 15:22:50 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: The problem to pay for an unwanted software from $M is one thing (whereat it is difficult to estimate the cost). But if you need a $W-OS to update the BIOS (e.g., with my HP Pavilion DV7) is IMHO a much bigger drawback. Check and

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:29:27 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: For a friend of mine, I am going to by a laptop/ In my country (france), it is impossible to get computer without $W exccept if you get acer. JFYI, HP also ships laptops (company/enterprise based) with SLED 11 and/ or FreeDOS:

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-09-29 a las 10:32 -0700, devadmin escribió: (this e-mail reached my inbox but I'm not sure it was just intended to me as I already said I like HP based notebooks -and also their netbooks, desktop computers and servers- so resending to the list...) DO NOT PURCHASE AN HP LAPTOP THEY ARE

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-09-29 a las 20:01 +0200, Erwan David escribió: (sending back to the list) On 29/09/11 18:51, Camaleón wrote: My preferred brands for laptops are Toshiba and HP (the ones I have tested) and also have good references from Lenovo's (though not directly tried). I got a lenovo T510

OT: laptop choice

2011-09-28 Thread Thierry Chatelet
For a friend of mine, I am going to by a laptop/ In my country (france), it is impossible to get computer without $W exccept if you get acer.So she want to buy this one: eMachines G443-E352G32Mn - Ordinateur Portable 17,3'' - AMD E-350 (1,6 GHz) - 320 Go - RAM 2048 Mo - AMD Radeon HD 6310 -

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-12-08 Thread Bob
8 8 snip 8 8 fx threadjacks /fx On a more general note, is there a laptop with good OS drivers for everything, that has a DVI port and SPDIF out (in would be nice but not essential) as well as all the normal USB, FireWire, WiFi, lan, etc... ? Defiantly want OS graphics drivers so I think

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
Intel Celeron M 420 I'd recommend against any Celeron CPU. It's slow and not energy efficient. A Turion64 ML-something is OK but an Turion64 MT-something is more energy efficient, so check the details. W.r.t GNU/Linux support I've come to the conclusion that it's a question of luck more

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-27 Thread ChadDavis
Don't buy an HP/Compaq. Two reasons: 1. They never perform as good as the hardware suggest. This has been my observation over several years dealing with clients who buy nothing but HP. 2. HP of late has a filthy habit of boobytrapping their notebooks to not take generic components. My

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-27 Thread Jeff Goodman
Hans du Plooy wrote: On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 17:32 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: Compaq Presario ($399.98 US) [snip] HP ($379.99 US) Don't buy an HP/Compaq. Two reasons: 1. They never perform as good as the hardware suggest. This has been my observation over several years dealing with

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-27 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:13 -0800, Jeff Goodman wrote: 2. HP of late has a filthy habit of boobytrapping their notebooks to not take generic components. My nx6125, for example, will not work with any hard disc other than the 80GB Seagate (with HP firmware) that it came with. Sure you

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-25 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 17:32 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: Compaq Presario ($399.98 US) [snip] HP ($379.99 US) Don't buy an HP/Compaq. Two reasons: 1. They never perform as good as the hardware suggest. This has been my observation over several years dealing with clients who buy nothing but HP.

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Marc Shapiro wrote: Baz wrote: Thinkpad - it's the standard by which all others are measured... Yes, but I still can't afford to pony up the price of a new Thinkpad. I adviced my girlfriend to buy a used thinkpad. It's not a current model, but was good value for money. She's never had

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Marc Shapiro wrote: For those who have already finished their turkey, or reside outside the US and don't celebrate Thanksgiving, or for whatever reason are actually reading debian-user today... I finally have some spare cash and so am looking to replace my aged IBM Thinkpad 390. All the

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-24 Thread Baz
Johannes - Which model was it? If it's any relief, my model is three months old and I'm having the some of the same problems. Don't the developers know? Do they even care? or are they just elitists? - Sebastian

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Sebastian, Baz wrote: Which model was it? If it's any relief, my model is three months old and I'm having the some of the same problems. Sorry, I should have written that more clearly. The other laptop was NOT a Thinkpad. It was a Transtec laptop (I don't recall the model, by now at least

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-24 Thread Marc Shapiro
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: For those who have already finished their turkey, or reside outside the US and don't celebrate Thanksgiving, or for whatever reason are actually reading debian-user today... I finally have some spare cash and so am looking to replace my aged IBM

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-24 Thread Nick Boyce
Baz wrote: Thinkpad - it's the standard by which all others are measured... My 2p on that: I've used two Thinkpads at work (but not with Linux), a T20 and a T21. Good points: very physically sturdy (a Dell Latitude seems flimsy by comparison), and have a nice security feature (or scary feature

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Nick Boyce wrote: My 2p on that: I've used two Thinkpads at work (but not with Linux), a T20 and a T21. Good points: very physically sturdy (a Dell Latitude seems flimsy by comparison), and have a nice security feature (or scary feature depending on your point of view) in that if you set a

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Baz wrote: So, you have Etch running? Yes. More information can be found here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=396411 Installation went very smooth and took about an hour, including more than 4 GB worth of packages downloaded :-) Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Laptop choice?

2006-11-23 Thread Marc Shapiro
For those who have already finished their turkey, or reside outside the US and don't celebrate Thanksgiving, or for whatever reason are actually reading debian-user today... I finally have some spare cash and so am looking to replace my aged IBM Thinkpad 390. All the sale flyers came in

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-23 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toshiba Satellite ($299.99 US) Intel Celeron M 420 512 MB DDR2 RAM 80 GB HD CD-RW/DVD 802.11 a/b/g I have one of these. It uses the ipw2100 wifi card internally. I got fed up with it so I now use a PCMCIA D-Link AirPlus AG

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-23 Thread John L Fjellstad
Can't give you specific advice on the laptops you showed, but I would check http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and see if those models are there and how much problems people have setting up their laptops. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes --

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-23 Thread Baz
Thinkpad - it's the standard by which all others are measured... On 11/23/06, John L Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't give you specific advice on the laptops you showed, but I would check http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and see if those models are there and how much problems people have

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-23 Thread Marc Shapiro
Baz wrote: Thinkpad - it's the standard by which all others are measured... Yes, but I still can't afford to pony up the price of a new Thinkpad. -- Marc Shapiro No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What?! Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around

Re: Laptop choice?

2006-11-23 Thread Baz
Marc - Don't be so sure. I bought mine - regular $1400 for $1000 back in August. Check Lenovo's clearance section. They were trying - so I read - to empty the warehouses for the new models. Also, it was delivered one day late - and, I got them to knock $50.00 more off. - Sebastian On

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-10-31 Thread roberto
On 9/10/05, Tim Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a Dell Latitude D600. Works awesome! Tim i also currently hold D600, but i would like to upgrade to latest stable kernel-source package; which one are you using? does it correctly manage your hardware? i did not find any 2.6.x (x8)

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-12 Thread anoop aryal
On Saturday 10 September 2005 05:41 am, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Brian Kimball wrote: Antonio Rodriguez wrote: I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? A good recommendation

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-12 Thread Dr. Steven A. Sola
I'm thinking of getting an asus z71v notebook. has anyone had any experience with this or similar models? TIA lao -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Brian Kimball wrote: Antonio Rodriguez wrote: I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? A good recommendation that I don't see very often is to check which machines linux

Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Florian Dorpmueller
I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? With http://tuxmobile.org and http://www.linux-laptop.net/ you can make your mind up. A fairly good ML is available für Thinkpads:

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 07:11:02AM -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? Quick answer: IBM Thinkpad X40 Longer answer: check the

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 11:55:14AM +, Florian Dorpmueller wrote: A fairly good ML is available f?r Thinkpads: http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad Yes, and a good wiki too: http://thinkwiki.org/ -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Olive
Antonio Rodriguez wrote: I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? Toshiba has a website where it documents the compatibility of their computer with linux. They document also

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Josh Battles
Antonio Rodriguez said: I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? I've got to agree with the others here that the IBM ThinkPad is a wonderful laptop to run Debian on. I

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Craig M. Houck
I have put debian on two think pads a T20 and a new one. I also put it on a Dell 6000? Sound isn't working on the 6000, but I think it is a hardware problem. RbtBotL Craig - oBU SysAdmin /|\ 607 777 6827 ^ Tot Ziens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 03:07:56PM +0100, antgel wrote: I've got to agree with the others here that the IBM ThinkPad is a wonderful laptop to run Debian on. I installed Ubuntu on my T42 and it detected everything right out of the box and configured it all correctly. The only thing I had

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Josh Battles
antgel said: Josh Battles wrote: I've got to agree with the others here that the IBM ThinkPad is a wonderful laptop to run Debian on. I installed Ubuntu on my T42 and it detected everything right out of the box and configured it all correctly. The only thing I had to do was manually setup

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Jonathan Kaye
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Antonio Rodriguez wrote: I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? Hi Antonio, My girlfriend just installed debian etch in her Acer

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Clive Menzies
On (09/09/05 17:44), Jonathan Kaye wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Antonio Rodriguez wrote: I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? Hi Antonio,

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Greg Madden
On Friday 09 September 2005 07:39 am, Josh Battles wrote: antgel said: Josh Battles wrote: I've got to agree with the others here that the IBM ThinkPad is a wonderful laptop to run Debian on. I installed Ubuntu on my T42 and it detected everything right out of the box and configured it

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Joan Tur
Es Divendres, 9 de Setembre de 2005 13:55, en Florian Dorpmueller va escriure: | With http://tuxmobile.org and http://www.linux-laptop.net/ you can make | your mind up. It's http://tuxmobil.org (without the e) ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Brian Kimball
Antonio Rodriguez wrote: I am planning to buy a laptop for my self in the near future for travels, stinks not having with you a debian system. Any good recommendations by any chance? A good recommendation that I don't see very often is to check which machines linux laptop vendors choose to

Re: Laptop choice to run debian

2005-09-09 Thread Tim Jordan
Joan Tur wrote: Es Divendres, 9 de Setembre de 2005 13:55, en Florian Dorpmueller va escriure: | With http://tuxmobile.org and http://www.linux-laptop.net/ you can make | your mind up. It's http://tuxmobil.org (without the e) ;) I use a Dell Latitude D600. Works awesome! Tim -- To

Re: Laptop choice, first boot issues

2004-11-26 Thread Victor Munoz
Thanks to all for the very useful comments. I feel now much better informed. Regards, Victor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Laptop choice, first boot issues

2004-11-25 Thread Raphaël Berbain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK, ntfs partitions can be resized. Maybe not all partition editors can do it, but I think Knoppix's can. Ubuntu can't right now, be it is on the roadmap. It's safest to use native tools to repartition. Well, not in my experience. I used to think that way,

Re: Laptop choice, first boot issues

2004-11-24 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 24 Nov 2004, Victor Munoz wrote: Hello. I'm thinking of buying a new laptop. I don't know much about the subject (I've only had one old laptop, which I bought from a friend, and he had already installed sid). From what I've learned googling, IBM Thinkpads seem to be one of the best

Re: Laptop choice, first boot issues

2004-11-24 Thread Raphaël Berbain
Victor Munoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Currently I'm considering R50, T41, T42 models, but I'm open to suggestions! I had the opportunity to play with a T42p just yesterday. h/w-wise, I am impressed. I still have the machine available for some time, so if there are specific points worrying

Re: Laptop choice, first boot issues

2004-11-24 Thread j64669
I'll just add a few comments based on my experience with an A31 ThinkPad: On (24/11/04 14:42), Raphaël Berbain wrote: Victor Munoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Currently I'm considering R50, T41, T42 models, but I'm open to suggestions! ... I've read that one has to be very careful when first

Laptop choice, first boot issues

2004-11-23 Thread Victor Munoz
Hello. I'm thinking of buying a new laptop. I don't know much about the subject (I've only had one old laptop, which I bought from a friend, and he had already installed sid). From what I've learned googling, IBM Thinkpads seem to be one of the best options. I live in Japan, and Japanese brands

Re: Laptop choice, first boot issues

2004-11-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 7:54 pm, Victor Munoz wrote: It will probably not be possible to buy a laptop without XP installed. I believe CTL will sell you a laptop without an OS. http://www.ctl.info/ There's also the issue of the special recovery partition somewhere in the hard disk. And

Re: Laptop choice, first boot issues

2004-11-23 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
Victor, You are well prepared for your linux thinkpad journey. I have a T41 with dual boot debian. Absolutely get a thinkpad. The T series are really slim. Thinkpads are top rated for Linux installation. After you get your thinkpad call and ask for the rescue CD's. It will be free. It won't

Re: Laptop choice, first boot issues

2004-11-23 Thread Victor Munoz
After you get your thinkpad call and ask for the rescue CD's. It will be free. It won't be exactly the same as what is on the restore Thanks for the tip. license. Create a VFAT or M$ FAT to share. Read the grub manual on the knoppix CD, great idea if you are new to linux. Not the