Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-22 Thread Andreas Sliwka
Steve Lamb wrote: I don't know, I think if there were a language to start newbies out on, it is perl. Don't have to worry about many of the things that other languages force upon you yet gives you a good gounding in how those other languages work. Heaven, no! I think its quite a

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-22 Thread Mamoun Alissali
Andreas Sliwka wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: I don't know, I think if there were a language to start newbies out on, it is perl. Don't have to worry about many of the things that other languages force upon you yet gives you a good gounding in how those other languages work. Heaven,

RE: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-21 Thread Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren
a) It's closer to the natural language than C and, of course, C++, and all of us think in our own natural language (english, spanish, french, german, etc...) and this is the first language we use when we develope a program. This can also be a disadvantage, because programming _is_ much unlike

RE: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:01:35 +0100, Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren wrote: You can start with any language. For a complete beginner, I would advocate Scheme. Even if you don't want to do big projects in Scheme, you can start very fast. A good book on

RE: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-21 Thread M.C. Vernon
Yes, natural language is quite far from the code of a programm but the first algorithms that one must develope for a programm are much like cooking recipes in natural language. Is there someone out there thinking in C or Pascal? fprintf(HANDS,Me %s,SMILEY); Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn'

RE: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-21 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:01:35 +0100, Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren wrote: You can start with any language. For a complete beginner, I would advocate Scheme. Even if you don't want to do big projects in Scheme, you can start very fast. A good book on

Re: RE: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-21 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bruce Sass ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): How does Python rate as a beginners language? Excellent. The manuals are excellent, free and, for once, you can probably get away without the O'Reilly book. I find it much easier to code cleanly than Perl (which I came from because Perl was the only way

RE: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-21 Thread Harrison, Shawn
How does Python rate as a beginners language? From the little I've looked at it, I'd say it's a good starting place. The syntax is clean, the organization logical, and the new learner can begin using OOP in his or her programming career. One could argue that *any* programming language could

RE: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-21 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Harrison, Shawn wrote: How does Python rate as a beginners language? From the little I've looked at it, I'd say it's a good starting place. The syntax is clean, the organization logical, and the new learner can begin using OOP in his or her programming career.

RE: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-21 Thread William Park
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Bruce Sass wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:01:35 +0100, Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren wrote: You can start with any language. For a complete beginner, I would advocate Scheme. Even if you don't want to do big projects in Scheme,

RE: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-17 Thread Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren
snip I think that it is worth considering skipping the Pascal stage and going straight to C, or equivalent languages. Taking this approach a bit further, I think it is even worth considering going straight to C++, perhaps by talking first about the procedural aspects of C++ and only then, as a

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 05:05:48AM +0100, Antonio A. Rivas Ojanguren wrote: snip I think that it is worth considering skipping the Pascal stage and going straight to C, or equivalent languages. Taking this approach a bit further, I think it is even worth considering going straight to C++,

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-16 Thread Harrison, Shawn
snip I think that it is worth considering skipping the Pascal stage and going straight to C, or equivalent languages. Taking this approach a bit further, I think it is even worth considering going straight to C++, perhaps by talking first about the procedural aspects of C++ and only then, as a

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-15 Thread shaul
But I think Pascal is somewhat easier language to start with. I am aware to the fact that this is the common attitude. But I wonder if this is still valid these days. I mean, today using the computer and even programming is much more embedded in every days routines, especially when young

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-13 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello, What computer languages do I need to learn? As others have said, that depends on what you want to do... If you are looking at particular files you want to understand, use the `file' command to check what they are; or, if the first line starts with #! it tells you directly (eg a file

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-12 Thread Jameson Burt
I did a few searches in user's archives and came up with the book Beginning Linux Programming.' I read a review and it said it was for people who already have programming experience. I have none. I look at files and understand very little. I would like to be able to understand the

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-12 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 06:02:58PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did a few searches in user's archives and came up with the book Beginning Linux Programming.' I read a review and it said it was for people who already have programming experience. I have

Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-11 Thread ktb
I did a few searches in user's archives and came up with the book Beginning Linux Programming.' I read a review and it said it was for people who already have programming experience. I have none. I look at files and understand very little. I would like to be able to understand the phrases in

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-11 Thread Henning Makholm
ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did a few searches in user's archives and came up with the book Beginning Linux Programming.' I read a review and it said it was for people who already have programming experience. I have none. Given that you use Linux you definitely want to program in C.

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-11 Thread Helge Hafting
I did a few searches in user's archives and came up with the book Beginning Linux Programming.' I read a review and it said it was for people who already have programming experience. I have none. I look at files and understand very little. I would like to be able to understand the

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

1999-01-11 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi, Kent! read? What computer languages do I need to learn? In general if someone could point the direction. You've heard quite a few recommendations about C. And I agree with that. But I think Pascal is somewhat easier language to start with. It's based on my teaching experience of