Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-18 Thread Henrik Enberg
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, I should add one extremely annoying and frustrating problem I > have recently had in xemacs21-gtk/Gnus: > > I can select data in another X window, and paste into a Gnus > message. That is good, normal, defacto X behaviour. > > However, if somebody sen

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-15 Thread Brian May
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> The main limitations of Gnus for me, I guess are: won't Brian> check SSL server key, and won't cache IMAP data (unless you Brian> manually tell it to, but then it won't delete the messages Brian> when they are erased fro

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-15 Thread Brian May
> "Eric" == Eric E Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eric> Not sure what you want here. You can set it up with a Eric> backend that uses a standard unix mbox format to keep the Eric> mail, which then you could feed to mailsync or something... I seem to remember (from a while ago)

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-15 Thread Brian May
> "Joseph" == Joseph Dane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joseph> one way you might be able to accomplish this is to use Joseph> 'levels'. you can set a mail (or news) group at a certain Joseph> level, and when you check for new mail gnus will only Joseph> fetch for groups at or b

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on , July 13, John S. J. Anderson did write: > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:31:23 -0500 (CDT), Richard Cobbe <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> said: > > Richard> I'm a fan of VM, because I'm used to the Emacs keybindings, > Richard> and it's the only MUA I've found which lets you edit messages > R

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Erik Steffl
Jason Rashaad Jackson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm personally using a combination of fetchmail-ssl, procmail, and kmail. > Handles everything I need it to, and a lot more! > > > - Must be able to handle multiple IMAP-based accounts. (not necessarily > > on

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Joseph Dane
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> However, Gnus seems to perform badly (IMHO) when accessing Brian> remote mail: Brian> - on startup, it tries to check for mail on every folder. This Brian> is slow and time consuming (I only have a shared 28.8kbps Brian> Internet

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Jason Rashaad Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm personally using a combination of fetchmail-ssl, procmail, and kmail. Handles everything I need it to, and a lot more! > - Must be able to handle multiple IMAP-based accounts. (not necessarily > on the same server) fetchmail. Check out the we

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Eric E Moore
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> - Gnus doesn't support storing mail (on local computer as Brian> opposed to IMAP) in any shared location. Instead, it will pull Brian> all mail out of the Maildir or mbox file, and insert it into Brian> its own private spool. This makes

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread John S. J. Anderson
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:31:23 -0500 (CDT), Richard Cobbe <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> said: Richard> I'm a fan of VM, because I'm used to the Emacs keybindings, Richard> and it's the only MUA I've found which lets you edit messages Richard> that you receive in-place. FWIW, Gnus does that too.

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Matti Airas
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 09:13:37AM +0200, Paul Huygen wrote: > You *could* do that, because VMware is a sophisticated program that > seems to work very well. However, to continuously run an application > like Outlook, Vmware seems not very suitable. VMware shares the > processor cycles evenly betw

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Erik Steffl
Kurt Lieber wrote: > > OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about > MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape > off the bottom of your shoe. > > I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux > MUA that meets my n

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Paul Huygen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You could also run vmware (http://www.vmware.com) on your machine, and just > run outlook on top of that. You *could* do that, because VMware is a sophisticated program that seems to work very well. However, to continuously run an application like Outlook, Vmware seems

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-13 Thread Brian May
> "Charles" == Charles Sebold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charles> Except for calendaring - Emacs + Gnus + BBDB + Charles> gnus-pers.el to enable one to switch "accounts" easily Charles> while composing posts/emails. Emacs has calendaring but Charles> currently can't share mee

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: kl> OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on kl> about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that kl> you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. ... kl> If there isn't, then I hope the person who stated

RE: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Thursday, July 12, Kurt Lieber did write: > I'm wedded to the way Outlook displays information. With one look at > the main Outlook screen, I can tell how many unread messages I have in > each account, the content of the first unread message in my primary > account (via the preview pane) a

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Brian Nelson
Brendon Leese wrote: If you wish to use GNU/Linux nonetheless then perhap you could use wine (www.winehq.com). "Wine is animplementation of the Windows 3.x and Win32 APIs on top of X and Unix. Think of Wine as a Windows compatibility layer". Simply mount your old Windows partition containing O

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Martin Rowe
On Thursday 12 July 2001 17:28, Kurt Lieber wrote: > OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on > about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you > scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I'm tempted to drop the from the sentence ;-) > I, for

RE: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread List Manager
ECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:51 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!) On Thursday 12 July 2001 19:35, Brian Nelson wrote: > Kurt Lieber wrote: > > OK, I've read with great amus

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 01:35:42PM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote: | Why on earth would you want a single application to do all of that? Do This was my reaction also. Just for the record I used to be a full-time windows user, before I was introduced to Unix and Linux. I have tried a lot of differe

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Charles Sebold
On 21 Tammuz 5761, Eric E. Moore wrote: > I was going to suggest gnus, but seems I was beaten to it. (I wasn't > sure about the preview pane/show fisst 3 lines) One could manage something, using a combination of window reconfiguration and a custom variable to steal the first three lines of the b

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Alan Shutko
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why on earth would you want a single application to do all of that? Because he's an Emacs fan? 8^) It doesn't sound as if he necessarily wanted a single program to do all that, but did want a single solution. (Check the references to "integrate into an

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Brendon Leese
On Thursday 12 July 2001 19:35, Brian Nelson wrote: > Kurt Lieber wrote: > > OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about > > MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape > > off the bottom of your shoe. > > > > I, for one, am brand-spanking new

MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Kurt Lieber
OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs. I really do like Linux and

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Andrew Dixon
Brian Nelson wrote: > > Kurt Lieber wrote: > > > If there isn't, then I hope the person who stated "anyone who uses MS > > email products is ignorant" will reconsider their statement. > > That's not an accurate quote, but... > > Why on earth would you want a single application to do all of t

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Michael B. Taylor
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:28:41AM -0700, Kurt Lieber wrote: > OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about > MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape > off the bottom of your shoe. > > I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have ye

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread DvB
Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs. I rea

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Craig Dickson
Hall Stevenson wrote: > The best part is, many people who bash > Microsoft products have never used them, or at least not > recently. I'm by no means defending their stuff (I'm using MS > Outlook Express to send this, by the way, no gurus need to > examine the mail headers to "expose" me). It's si

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Eric E Moore
> "Charles" == Charles Sebold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charles> On 21 Tammuz 5761, Kurt Lieber wrote: >> So, here's a list of my requirements and I'm hoping you guys can >> point me to an MUA that meets them. If so, I'll gladly switch over >> to Linux full-time and forswear Microsoft forev

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Brian Nelson
Kurt Lieber wrote: OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my needs. I rea

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Hall Stevenson
> OK, I've read with great amusement all the > chest-thumping going on about MUAs, MTAs > and how Microsoft email products are things > that you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. > > I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and > have yet to find a Linux MUA that meets my > needs. At first, I

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Jimmy Richards
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:28:41AM -0700, Kurt Lieber wrote: > OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on about > MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that you scrape > off the bottom of your shoe. > > I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have ye

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Craig Dickson
Kurt Lieber wrote: > I, for one, am brand-spanking new at Linux and have yet to find a Linux > MUA that meets my needs. I really do like Linux and would like to > transition over to it for my desktop machine, but because of it's > weakness on the MUA side, I haven't been able to do so. ("weaknes

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Charles Sebold wrote: > On 21 Tammuz 5761, Kurt Lieber wrote: > > > So, here's a list of my requirements and I'm hoping you guys can point > > me to an MUA that meets them. If so, I'll gladly switch over to Linux > > full-time and forswear Microsoft forever. :) > But you seem very wedded to t

RE: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Kurt Lieber
job is. So far, the best tool is Outlook for my needs, but I'm hoping that y'all can show me something different. --kurt -Original Message- From: Charles Sebold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:15 AM To: Kurt Lieber Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subj

Re: MUAs that compare with Outlook (your chance to show how much better Linux is than MS!!)

2001-07-12 Thread Charles Sebold
On 21 Tammuz 5761, Kurt Lieber wrote: > So, here's a list of my requirements and I'm hoping you guys can point > me to an MUA that meets them. If so, I'll gladly switch over to Linux > full-time and forswear Microsoft forever. :) Except for calendaring - Emacs + Gnus + BBDB + gnus-pers.el to ena