Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread tomas
should probably be > > > converted to Maildir, unless it's used as an archive and rarely (if > > > ever) changed. (neo)mutt can deal with different formats per folder. > > > > Not my experience. As I said, my main mail folder is roughly 38k

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
y (if > > ever) changed. (neo)mutt can deal with different formats per folder. > > Not my experience. As I said, my main mail folder is roughly 38k > messages (corresponding to 1.1G) and mutt deals extremely well > with that. Moving/deleting messages (which I do regularly) rarely &

Re: Mail Reader (updated)

2021-07-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 08 iul 21, 04:17:25, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-07-07 11:41 p.m., Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > Hi guys (and possibly girls), > > > > I am currently using Thunderbird as a mail reader. > > It did a good job until

Re: Mail Reader (updated)

2021-07-08 Thread Francesco Florian
Hi, I use a combination of three things; I don't think it's the setup you want, but some of them can be replaced with others. 1. offlineimap to fetch the emails from the mail server and store them in Maildir format. As the name suggests, the server only needs to support IMAP. It is available

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread mick crane
On 2021-07-08 04:41, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: What would any of you suggest as a mail reading software ? I could use claws-mail I could use other mail client I could also install a web based mail client on another server and possibly create some local folders (don't know

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread tomas
. Not my experience. As I said, my main mail folder is roughly 38k messages (corresponding to 1.1G) and mutt deals extremely well with that. Moving/deleting messages (which I do regularly) rarely takes more than a couple of seconds, even searching through all the mail bodies for a regexp is reasona

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
fferent storage format. > This won't help much when we talk about problem searching thru my mail > and resources hungry (for Thunderbird) actions. Except for the network interface the storage is the slowest component in a typical computer and the mbox format is notoriously difficult to cha

Re: Mail Reader (updated)

2021-07-08 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-07 11:41 p.m., Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi guys (and possibly girls), > > I am currently using Thunderbird as a mail reader. > It did a good job until now. > I am also using the PGP plugin. > > But I am feeling the limits, it also gets somew

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
s of messages storage which create a file per > message: Maildir, MH, etc.. > Okay, but I have doubt about any type of benefits relating to having either more file or a different storage format. This won't help much when we talk about problem searching thru my mail and resources hungr

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-08 2:40 a.m., john doe wrote: > On 7/8/2021 5:41 AM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Hi guys (and possibly girls), >> >> I am currently using Thunderbird as a mail reader. >> It did a good job until now. >> I am also using the PGP plugin.

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 11:41:25PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi guys (and possibly girls), > > I am currently using Thunderbird as a mail reader. > It did a good job until now. > I am also using the PGP plugin. > > But I am feeling the limits, it also

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 07 juillet 2021 à 23:41 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot- Summerside a écrit : > Hi guys (and possibly girls), > > I am currently using Thunderbird as a mail reader. > It did a good job until now. > I am also using the PGP plugin. Hello, Enigmail, the Thunder

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 11:41:25PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi guys (and possibly girls), > > I am currently using Thunderbird as a mail reader. > It did a good job until now. > I am also using the PGP plugin. > > But I am feeling the limits, it also

Re: Mail Reader

2021-07-08 Thread john doe
On 7/8/2021 5:41 AM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Hi guys (and possibly girls), I am currently using Thunderbird as a mail reader. It did a good job until now. I am also using the PGP plugin. But I am feeling the limits, it also gets somewhat pretty slow (even with a powerful enough

Mail Reader

2021-07-07 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi guys (and possibly girls), I am currently using Thunderbird as a mail reader. It did a good job until now. I am also using the PGP plugin. But I am feeling the limits, it also gets somewhat pretty slow (even with a powerful enough computer) if I need for example delete 100 messages on my

Re: Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 05:36:39PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: If I'm not mistaken, if anything it's actually more of an ancestor; That's right. Quoting the original Markdown page[1]: the single biggest source of inspiration for Markdown’s syntax is the format of plain text email. [1]

Re: Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2021 04:36 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2021-06-13 at 17:30, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: ... Regarding the asterisks, I used them in many text to make emphasis, including in some text that go out in printed form. Started doing so when I was still in university and

Re: Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-13 Thread The Wanderer
; You don't. How the text is rendered depends entirely on the mail >> client the person is using, and potentially on the configuration of >> that client. > > I didn't have in mind that message client could render some > derivative of Markdown. If I'm not mistaken, if anything

Re: Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-06-13 4:50 p.m., The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-06-13 at 16:42, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> How do you make the text bold ? The * is enough ? > > You don't. How the text is rendered depends entirely on the mail client > the person is u

Emphasis notation in plain-text mail (was Re: Server setup)

2021-06-13 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-06-13 at 16:42, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > How do you make the text bold ? The * is enough ? You don't. How the text is rendered depends entirely on the mail client the person is using, and potentially on the configuration of that client. Some clients - including the

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote: > FYI: > > I installed iwatch, and that immediately generated two messages from > /etc/.etckeeper. Then I upgraded: > > apt apt-doc apt-utils bind9-host curl dnsutils exim4 > exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light > firefox-esr firefox-esr-l10n-en-gb gstreamer1.0-gl >

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 03:51:16PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > >> I learned something as well, how to delete mails. First see >> how many mails there are, say there are 756, then type >> t 1-756 RET and then hold down q :) > > That's a slow way. "T iwatch ; d" or "T ~b

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-08 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 May 2021 at 07:26:34 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:32:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > It looks reasonable for determining whether your system files are > > being interfered with. But you just showed one example from the > > log, which was for the

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 03:51:16PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: I learned something as well, how to delete mails. First see how many mails there are, say there are 756, then type t 1-756 RET and then hold down q :) That's a slow way. "T iwatch ; d" or "T ~b iwatch ; d" would be faster (using ;

Re: OT: dotfile generalities (was Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?)

2021-05-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 07, 2021 at 09:46:53AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2021-05-07 at 09:39 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >  - 1 I don't understand (who is .pwd.lock [...]) > I thought that was explained on this list a few days ago [...] Oh, thanks. Must have missed that part :) Cheers - t

Re: OT: dotfile generalities (was Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?)

2021-05-07 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2021-05-07 at 09:39 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >  - 1 I don't understand (who is .pwd.lock and what is she >    doing in my /etc? [1]). I thought that was explained on this list a few days ago (and 17 years ago! [2]). The file is used by lckpwdf() function [3][4] which is used to

Re: OT: dotfile generalities (was Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?)

2021-05-07 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 11:21:14PM -0500, David Wright wrote: [...] > Well, here are the files on my system: > > # find /etc -type f -name '.*' -ls | sort -k 11 > -rwx-- 84357 May 6 08:25 /etc/.etckeeper > -rw--- 932 Apr 3 2020 /etc/.gitignore > -rw-r--r-- 0 Apr 3 2020

Re: OT: dotfile generalities (was Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?)

2021-05-06 Thread David Wright
On Thu 06 May 2021 at 10:46:03 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 02:37:17PM +, davidson wrote: > > > $ shopt -s globstar > > > $ ls /etc/**/.[^.]* > > > > It now occurs to me that this still omits files like /etc/.a and > > /etc/..metadotfile > > It doesn't omit .a .

Re: OT: dotfile generalities (was Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?)

2021-05-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 02:37:17PM +, davidson wrote: > > $ shopt -s globstar > > $ ls /etc/**/.[^.]* > > It now occurs to me that this still omits files like /etc/.a and > /etc/..metadotfile It doesn't omit .a . The * is allowed to match the empty string. > Instead, > > $ ls

OT: dotfile generalities (was Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?)

2021-05-06 Thread davidson
On Thu, 6 May 2021 davidson wrote: [dd] To that end, I can occasionally do something like $ ls -Rp | less and make a point of examining the first couple of things that look unfamiliar. This misses out dotfiles. [dd] So when I look for what I'm missing out on, and do... $ shopt -s globstar

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-06 Thread davidson
On Wed, 5 May 2021 David Wright wrote: [dd] One thing I didn't learn is why .pwd.lock is in /etc/ rather than, say, /run/lock/. Perhaps related, why are there dotfiles in /etc/ anyway. (.git/, .java/, .etckeeper, .gitignore are the others.) What are they hiding from? [dd] I would assume that

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 May 2021 at 12:01:07 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 10:36:53AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > OTOH perhaps monkeysphere has some reason to lock /etc/passwd et al > > during operation. Running strings on its binaries might throw up > > some 'pwd.lock' matches. Or

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 5 May 2021 10:36:53 -0500 David Wright wrote: > [W]hy are there dotfiles in /etc/ anyway. > (.git/, .java/, .etckeeper, .gitignore are the others.) What are they > hiding from? Indeed. And shouldn't one be backing them up? I see that amanda has been backing them up and that "add *" in

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote: > Yes, it was an assumption, and perhaps now we shall never > know. (Sampling the emails didn't appeasr to be an option.) > We also were not told whether 2757 notifications came in > over a week, a month, a year, or since openssh-client was > installed, whenever that was

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
Greg Wooledge wrote: > I interpreted it as literally being thousands of instances > of the *same* file, the one shown in the Subject: header and > in the original message body. They were all from iwatch, but they were so many I don't know if they were exactly the same, and now I don't get any

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 10:36:53AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > OTOH perhaps monkeysphere has some reason to lock /etc/passwd et al > during operation. Running strings on its binaries might throw up > some 'pwd.lock' matches. Or one could inotifywatch the program to > see how often it is run

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 May 2021 at 07:26:34 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:32:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > It looks reasonable for determining whether your system files are > > being interfered with. But you just showed one example from the > > log, which was for the

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:32:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > It looks reasonable for determining whether your system files are > being interfered with. But you just showed one example from the > log, which was for the /etc/.pwd.lock lockfile. I assume you don't > have 2757 of these but, rather,

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote: > Myself, I find inotify-tools more useful: I use inotifywait > in a loop, waiting for a browser to close files in its > cache. I then examine their filetype and copy the ones > I want, giving them sensible (timestamp) names. Very useful > for capturing (typically, live)

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote: > might help determine why you installed iwatch. Oh, so I did? Well then, I'll just remove it! -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-05 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote: > $ aptitude why iwatch i openssh-client Suggests monkeysphere i A monkeysphere Suggests monkeysphere-validation-agent i A msva-perl Provides monkeysphere-validation-agent i A msva-perl Recommends

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread Emanuel Berg
Kushal Kumaran wrote: > The manpage at > https://manpages.debian.org/buster/iwatch/iwatch.1.en.html > shows log output similar to what you see. Check your iwatch > configuration and see what it is doing. Thanks, but I've never heard of iwatch, so I haven't mucked around with its config file. But

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 May 2021 at 04:39:21 (+0200), Emanuel Berg wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > might help determine why you installed iwatch. > > Oh, so I did? > > Well then, I'll just remove it! Myself, I find inotify-tools more useful: I use inotifywait in a loop, waiting for a browser to close

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread Emanuel Berg
>> The "IN_" prefix tells you that this is an inotify event. >> IN_CLOSE_WRITE fires when a process _had_ the specified >> file open for writing, but has just closed it. Perhaps you >> have an "incron" job somewhere? > > I have cron do two very short scripts every @midnight, these > run fine

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 May 2021 at 03:11:53 (+0200), Emanuel Berg wrote: > Kushal Kumaran wrote: > > > The manpage at > > https://manpages.debian.org/buster/iwatch/iwatch.1.en.html > > shows log output similar to what you see. Check your iwatch > > configuration and see what it is doing. > > Thanks, but I've

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 03:11:53AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Kushal Kumaran wrote: > > The manpage at > > https://manpages.debian.org/buster/iwatch/iwatch.1.en.html > > shows log output similar to what you see. Check your iwatch > > configuration and see what it is doing. > > Thanks, but I've

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Tue, May 04 2021 at 11:11:02 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Darac Marjal wrote: > >> The "IN_" prefix tells you that this is an inotify event. >> IN_CLOSE_WRITE fires when a process _had_ the specified file >> open for writing, but has just closed it. Perhaps you have >> an "incron" job somewhere?

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread Emanuel Berg
Darac Marjal wrote: > The "IN_" prefix tells you that this is an inotify event. > IN_CLOSE_WRITE fires when a process _had_ the specified file > open for writing, but has just closed it. Perhaps you have > an "incron" job somewhere? I have cron do two very short scripts every @midnight, these

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread Emanuel Berg
Darac Marjal wrote: >> I get system mail all the time - I've got 2757 at the >> moment - that tells me that >> >> [ 4/Apr/2021 22:11:33] >> IN_CLOSE_WRITE /etc/.pwd.lock >> * /etc/.pwd.lock is closed >> >> Any clues what that

repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread Emanuel Berg
I get system mail all the time - I've got 2757 at the moment - that tells me that [ 4/Apr/2021 22:11:33] IN_CLOSE_WRITE /etc/.pwd.lock * /etc/.pwd.lock is closed Any clues what that problem might be? TIA -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal

Re: repeated system mail, /etc/.pwd.lock ?

2021-05-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On 04/05/2021 07:12, Emanuel Berg wrote: > I get system mail all the time - I've got 2757 at the moment - > that tells me that > > [ 4/Apr/2021 22:11:33] > IN_CLOSE_WRITE /etc/.pwd.lock > * /etc/.pwd.lock is closed > > Any clues what that problem might be? Th

Re: debian-user list information and guidelines : don't use CC mail list

2021-01-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
ere to be different opinions or answers provided. If > > responding to > > someone, be considerate of their time and effort. > > I would like ask opinion on a little proposal to add new rule regrading > using CC with mail list address. > > The reason is, why the sender need to use

Re: debian-user list information and guidelines : don't use CC mail list

2021-01-26 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 11:37:59AM +0800, Robbi Nespu wrote: > Hi hello [...] > I would like ask opinion on a little proposal to add new rule > regrading using CC with mail list address. > > The reason is, why the sender need to use "TO" to original sender / > r

Re: debian-user list information and guidelines : don't use CC mail list

2021-01-25 Thread Robbi Nespu
on this list is provided by volunteers in their own time. It is common for there to be different opinions or answers provided. If responding to someone, be considerate of their time and effort. I would like ask opinion on a little proposal to add new rule regrading using CC with mail list address

Re: retirar e-mail dos envios de e-mails

2020-12-14 Thread Tiago Policarpo
Caríssimo, Relembro, requer confirmação por parte do utilizador, mais informação em https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe On segunda-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2020 13:21:31 WET joao mauricio machado de arujo wrote: > Prezados, > > Bom dia. > > Favor retirar o meu e-m

Re: retirar e-mail dos envios de e-mails

2020-12-14 Thread Paulo
João, Isto vinha no final de cada e-mail, não sei porque sumiu, mas fica em https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/ Lá você pode se desincrever (Unsubscribe). Att, Paulo Correia Em 14/12/2020 10:21, joao mauricio machado de arujo escreveu: Prezados, Bom dia. Favor retirar o meu

retirar e-mail dos envios de e-mails

2020-12-14 Thread joao mauricio machado de arujo
Prezados, Bom dia. Favor retirar o meu e-mail joaomaurici...@gmail.com de todos os e-mails que são enviados. Não gostaria de receber mais e-mails de vocês.] Agradeço desde já a atenção dispensada. Atenciosamente, *João Maurício Machado de Araújo* *Contato: (61) 9 9315-1984 (Claro)/ 3318-7600

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-25 Thread David Wright
On Wed 25 Nov 2020 at 17:56:27 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2020-11-25, David Wright wrote: > > > > There's a big difference between the requirements for your local > > storage when using POP compared with IMAP. When using POP in a > > conventional manner (transfer, and delete at the server end),

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-25 Thread Curt
On 2020-11-25, David Wright wrote: > > There's a big difference between the requirements for your local > storage when using POP compared with IMAP. When using POP in a > conventional manner (transfer, and delete at the server end), you > need reliable local storage. And you also need reliable

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-25 Thread David Wright
On Tue 24 Nov 2020 at 17:17:24 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2020-11-23, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, November 23, 2020 06:15:09 AM Sven Hartge wrote: > >> Joe wrote: > >> > That's why we have IMAP, which doesn't use mbox. > >> > >> The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
names are Alice and Bob. We'll say that Alice works at Foo Corp (email domain foo.corp), and Bob is a student at Bar College (email domain bar.college). Foo Corp and Bar College both use a single Unix server with local user accounts, running a traditional Unix MTA, with mail delivered locally. Ali

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-24 Thread David Wright
On Mon 23 Nov 2020 at 07:24:37 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, November 23, 2020 06:15:09 AM Sven Hartge wrote: > > Joe wrote: > > > That's why we have IMAP, which doesn't use mbox. > > > > The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. I didn't think this thread

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-24 Thread Curt
On 2020-11-23, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, November 23, 2020 06:15:09 AM Sven Hartge wrote: >> Joe wrote: >> > That's why we have IMAP, which doesn't use mbox. >> >> The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. > > Well, they do in a way -- if you use IMAP from your

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 17:38:19 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 23 nov 20, 07:24:37, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, November 23, 2020 06:15:09 AM Sven Hartge wrote: > > > Joe wrote: > > > > That's why we have IMAP, which doesn't use mbox. > > > > > > The IMAP protocal and the

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 23 nov 20, 07:24:37, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, November 23, 2020 06:15:09 AM Sven Hartge wrote: > > Joe wrote: > > > That's why we have IMAP, which doesn't use mbox. > > > > The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. > > Well, they do in a way -- if you

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Didar Hossain wrote: > Dovecot has "single instance attachment storage" (SIS) as well as its > own native mdbox binary format (multiple emails per file indexed > efficiently). > The SIS is a feature that I am really excited about since we have > multiple user receiveing the same email - it

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Didar Hossain
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 07:24:37AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, November 23, 2020 06:15:09 AM Sven Hartge wrote: > > Joe wrote: > > > That's why we have IMAP, which doesn't use mbox. > > > > The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. > > Well, they do in a

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, November 23, 2020 06:15:09 AM Sven Hartge wrote: > Joe wrote: > > That's why we have IMAP, which doesn't use mbox. > > The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. Well, they do in a way -- if you use IMAP from your ISP for example, you don't need local storage on

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Joe wrote: > That's why we have IMAP, which doesn't use mbox. The IMAP protocal and the backend storage have no connection. You can for example use mbox with Dovecot just fine. (Not that anyone would *want* to, but that is a different story.) Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Joe
t;> everybody is free. And surprisingly the OP recompiles the > >>> package. In this case it is enough to just point out the nonsense > >>> of the subject "Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3". > >> > >> Let's assume an average messag

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-23 Thread Flo
disorganised. I don't even try - there are all kinds of people out there - and everybody is free. And surprisingly the OP recompiles the package. In this case it is enough to just point out the nonsense of the subject "Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3". Let's assume an average

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread David Wright
gt; seems so disorganised. > > > > I don't even try - there are all kinds of people out there - and everybody > > is free. And surprisingly the OP recompiles the package. In this case it is > > enough to just point out the nonsense of the subject "Problem > > wi

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread Dan Ritter
Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Flo, > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 06:57:46PM +0100, Flo wrote: > > Let's assume an average message size of 20MB. Then 100 messages are > > enough to make it INBOX file that big. This doesn't necessarily mean > > that this is disorganized. >

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Flo, On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 06:57:46PM +0100, Flo wrote: > Let's assume an average message size of 20MB. Then 100 messages are > enough to make it INBOX file that big. This doesn't necessarily mean > that this is disorganized. The average size of mail I have received in the last

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread deloptes
Flo wrote: > Let's assume an average message size of 20MB. Then 100 messages are > enough to make it INBOX file that big. This doesn't necessarily mean > that this is disorganized. No, it means exactly this, because when mbox was in developed and actively in use there was no message of 20MB in

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-22 Thread Flo
ople out there - and everybody > is free. And surprisingly the OP recompiles the package. In this case it is > enough to just point out the nonsense of the subject "Problem > with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3". > > Let's assume an average message size of 20MB. T

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-21 Thread deloptes
ecompiles the package. In this case it is enough to just point out the nonsense of the subject "Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3".

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Sat 21 Nov 2020 at 08:55:41 (+0100), deloptes wrote: > Flo wrote: > > > I installed dovecot but it didn't really work. Actually only with one > > specific account, the one which produces this big mbox file. And I > > couldn't figure out the reason. > > > > So I recompiled popa3d and it seems

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-20 Thread deloptes
Flo wrote: > I installed dovecot but it didn't really work. Actually only with one > specific account, the one which produces this big mbox file. And I > couldn't figure out the reason. > > So I recompiled popa3d and it seems to work now. Anyway - consider migrating from the mbox format to

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-20 Thread 황병희
Dear Flo, Flo writes: > Hi All, > > I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails. > > The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has > come to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' > doesn't work any

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-20 Thread Flo
On 11/19/20 11:23 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:42:53PM +0100, Flo wrote: The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't work anymore. Does anyone know about

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-20 Thread Flo
On 11/19/20 11:47 PM, Ulf Volmer wrote: On 19.11.20 22:42, Flo wrote: I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails. The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-19 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 19.11.20 22:42, Flo wrote: > I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails. > > The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come > to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't > work anymore. This l

Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-19 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:42:53PM +0100, Flo wrote: > The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come to > that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't work > anymore. > > Does anyone know about this issue? Any hints to so

Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-19 Thread Flo
Hi All, I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails. The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't work anymore. Does anyone know about this issue? Any hints

Re: [HS] recherche boite mail

2020-10-02 Thread david
J'ai (enfin) pris le temps de contacter tous ces hébergeurs, j'ai l'impression que c'est exactement ce que je cherchais, merci ! Le 2020-08-29 18:46, hamster a écrit : Le 29/08/2020 à 12:21, David a écrit : Peut-être l'un d'entre vous a une autre proposition qu'OVH pour héberger un site pour

Re: [HS] recherche boite mail

2020-10-02 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 10/2/20 7:46 PM, david wrote: Oui niveau sûreté c'est top, mais je suppose qu'il faut avoir une connexion internet assez fiable ? Je suis à la campagne, free en dégroupé partiel, donc j'utilise le réseau orange (à ce qu'on m'a dit) Moi je paie quelques euros par mois ma boite mail (et

Re: [HS] recherche boite mail

2020-10-02 Thread david
et un cable micro-usb ;) Certes un petit investissement au départ, mais avec 2W de conso en crête, ca ne coute pas grand chose en électricité 24/7 ;-) Une sauvegarde complète de temps en temps dans son ordi perso... Pourquoi pas Yunohost ( yunohost.org ) pour avoir un petit serveur mail qui

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-10-01 Thread Brian
etc/mailname is Debian specific[2], to be used by > > all softwares (typically MTAs and some MUAs like mutt) that need a > > domain part to construct a full e-mail address, when one isn't provided. > > > > [1] too lazy to check where it's documented, quite likely in Debia

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-30 Thread David Wright
mutt) that need a > domain part to construct a full e-mail address, when one isn't provided. > > [1] too lazy to check where it's documented, quite likely in Debian Policy > [2] as in Debian specific patches to support it Your ¹ is correct. Specifically, from file:///usr/share/doc/d

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
(I use it to set exim's HELO.) So I thought it best to mention it. As far as I recall[1] /etc/mailname is Debian specific[2], to be used by all softwares (typically MTAs and some MUAs like mutt) that need a domain part to construct a full e-mail address, when one isn't provided. [1] too lazy to

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 13:26:54 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 25 sep 20, 00:38:25, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 03:40:16 (+), mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > > > > > Trying to get mutt to send mail I've got this in .muttrc: > > &g

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 01:26:54PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Not necessarily, just very common. However, suddenlink seems to require > the full e-mail address as well. > > https://help.suddenlink.com/knowledge/microsoft-outlook-set-your-suddenlink-email > &g

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 sep 20, 00:38:25, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 03:40:16 (+), mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > > > Trying to get mutt to send mail I've got this in .muttrc: > > > > set smtp_pass="myPasswd" > > # set smtp_url="smtp[s]://[user[

Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-25 Thread mick crane
On 2020-09-25 08:56, Joe wrote: If you haven't done anything yourself, it will be exim4-light. thanks -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-25 Thread Joe
; wrote: > >> mutt is an MUA, not an MTA.  > >> > >> What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be > >> specific. We will have better advice for you once we know > >> exactly what you want to have happen. > >> -dsr- > >>

Re: Mail transfer agent (debian-user-digest Digest V2020 #932)

2020-09-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 03:40:16 (+), mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > Trying to get mutt to send mail I've got this in .muttrc: > > set smtp_pass="myPasswd" > # set smtp_url="smtp[s]://[user[:pass]@]host[:port]" > # set smtp_url="smtp://mikemcclain46:myp

Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-24 Thread mick crane
On 2020-09-24 18:19, Brian wrote: On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 +, mike.junk...@att.net wrote: On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter wrote: mutt is an MUA, not an MTA.  What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be specific. We will have

Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-24 Thread Brian
On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 +, mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter > wrote: > mutt is an MUA, not an MTA.  > > What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be > specific. We will have

Re: Mail transfer agent

2020-09-24 Thread David Wright
On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 13:35:17 (+), mike.junk...@att.net wrote: > On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 09:14:42 PM CDT, Dan Ritter > wrote: > mutt is an MUA, not an MTA.  > > What tasks do you want your mail server to perform? Please be > specific. We will have better advi

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