Re: Thanks Mart -- Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-12 Thread Brian
On Tue 12 Mar 2019 at 19:20:34 -0400, deb wrote: > Fortunately Brian has blocked me, Eh? You'll have to explain. -- Brian.

Thanks Mart -- Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-12 Thread deb
On 3/11/19 5:08 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: And yeah, Debian is an upstream distribution, so you will have a lot of people who are being overly purist about Linux solutions, because they have the luxury of working in homogenous environments. Unfortunately a lot of them are lousy communicators.

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-12 Thread David Wright
On Tue 12 Mar 2019 at 15:01:32 (+0100), Mart van de Wege wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: > > >> OP has a point though. The real world happens to have a huge amount of > >> heterogeneous networks, and asking for tools to keep those systems safe > >> is legitimate. > > > > I did not perceive the

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-12 Thread Mart van de Wege
Stefan Monnier writes: >> OP has a point though. The real world happens to have a huge amount of >> heterogeneous networks, and asking for tools to keep those systems safe >> is legitimate. > > I did not perceive the OP's request to be about the case where you > administer lots of machines and

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> OP has a point though. The real world happens to have a huge amount of > heterogeneous networks, and asking for tools to keep those systems safe > is legitimate. I did not perceive the OP's request to be about the case where you administer lots of machines and you want to use a Debian machine

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Mart van de Wege
Stefan Monnier writes: >> re: apt solving all? I understand it recently had a long-time vulnerability >> itself... >> Linux will get hit more as it gets more popular. > > My point is not that APT and/or Debian is bullet-proof (I live under no > delusion in this respect). Just that instead of

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> There is a spectrum of Windows software than runs between evil malware > and legitimate programs, it isn't just black and white, and many Agreed, but I doubt A/V software will know where to draw the line. Stefan

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2019-03-11 Thread Joe
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:53:39 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > re: apt solving all? I understand it recently had a long-time > > vulnerability itself... > > Linux will get hit more as it gets more popular. > > My point is not that APT and/or Debian is bullet-proof (I live under > no delusion in

Re: Mart -- [Solved] [Well, not solved,. but sickened by] Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

2019-03-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> re: apt solving all? I understand it recently had a long-time vulnerability > itself... > Linux will get hit more as it gets more popular. My point is not that APT and/or Debian is bullet-proof (I live under no delusion in this respect). Just that instead of keeping your A/V up-to-date, the

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2019-03-11 Thread deb
On 3/10/19 1:33 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: deb writes: Starting assumption: I do want to run A/V.   * I get that it may actually INCREASE attack surface.   * But I have Windows & Mac stuff going back and forth to Debian 9.8 and just want to check. When you say going back and forth, do