Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Jeremy == Jeremy Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeremy Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart) Jeremy This is also something fairly important. We need this as we do a Jeremy lot of mass installs. The best way to do that that I've found so far is to set up a box with two

Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Bulent Murtezaoglu
[...] KMH The best way to do that that I've found so far is to set up KMH a box with two removable hard drive racks, install and KMH _configure_ everything on one drive, then use `cfdisk', KMH `mkswap', and `mke2fs' to partition and format the second KMH drive. [...] I do a

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Jeremy Hansen
Most of the answers I've been getting on this subject seem like total hacks, which may work but really are tricks to doing this. I was really looking for something within debian that's built to do kickstart type installations. Although what you suggest may work, it leave little flexibility

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Mike Bilow
Are you aware of this? http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ -- Mike On 2000-05-18 at 13:55 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: It seems a lot of Debian users are developers and in this case I'm sure Debian is perfect, but Red Hat's kickstart allows me to see my wife at night (not

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
I would agree most of the proposed solutions are quick hacks. The fact is, we won't be natively supporting bulk installation until Woody. And even that is in question. As I understand it, the proposed Woody install system is debconf based; moreover, debconf can have different backends for

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Mike Bilow
Agreed that this seems technically sound, but it would be really nice to have this Real Soon Now. I think it might be reasonably possible to backport this from Woody into Potato fairly soon after the release of Potato. The fact is that an automatic installation system will be really hard to test

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 01:55:37PM -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: Most of the answers I've been getting on this subject seem like total hacks, which may work but really are tricks to doing this. I was really looking for something within debian that's built to do kickstart type installations.

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Chris Wagner
At 09:55 PM 5/17/00 -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: copy everything from the master drive to the copy, then run the appropriate Lilo command to make that copy bootable. You can then mount it in another machine and it's ready to go. You have to filter some things out when you copy. See below.

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Pedro Guerreiro
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 05:54:54PM -0400, Mike Bilow wrote: Are you aware of this? http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ Another tool to do this is Replicator. Sorry, but I don't a link nearby. Search for it in google. On 2000-05-18 at 13:55 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: It seems

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Chris Wagner
If kickstart is a red hat package, you can install it on debian using alien. Then you can use red hat's kickstart to install debian. :) At 01:55 PM 5/18/00 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: Most of the answers I've been getting on this subject seem like total hacks, which may work but really are tricks

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Jeremy Hansen
Hmm, I don't agree here. Kickstart is a way of automating the tasks already involved with a manual install. It does what it's supposed to do quite well and actually with the flexibility available, I rarely encounter a situation that requires more custom things. Hacks can be included in

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Jeremy Hansen
Well it's funny you brought that up because I was considering just making one huge rpm of debian and then using kickstart. Kickstart is a part of Red Hat's install, Anaconda, not really an rpm but I get your point. -jeremy If kickstart is a red hat package, you can install it on debian using

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Tril
[Trimmed extraneous debian-isp and debian-dpkg cc:'s, hope that's enough] On Thu, 18 May 2000, Chris Wagner wrote: At 09:55 PM 5/17/00 -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: copy everything from the master drive to the copy, then run the appropriate Lilo command to make that copy bootable. You can

Re: Mass install / Autoinstall (Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.)

2000-05-18 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Craig == Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, I have 20 machines at a co location I need to go install. Right now with Red Hat I can take my laptop, slap a floppy in each machine, turn 'em on, 5 minutes later I have 20 fully configured machines ready to rock.