Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

2004-05-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's another side of the problem. However, my original point still > stands - blacklisting by small sites (even in large numbers) is > unlikely to have much of an impact on the large broadband providers > who do nothing about the garbage spewing from their

Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

2004-05-07 Thread Adam Aube
Steve Lamb wrote: > Adam Aube wrote: >> "If several large sites wholesale blacklisted major broadband providers" > >> Emphasis on "large" - it would take several sites approaching the size of >> AOL or MSN to make a difference. > > You mean the very same companies that are perpetuating the b

Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

2004-05-07 Thread Steve Lamb
Adam Aube wrote: > "If several large sites wholesale blacklisted major broadband providers" > Emphasis on "large" - it would take several sites approaching the size of > AOL or MSN to make a difference. You mean the very same companies that are perpetuating the behavior themselves as well as

Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

2004-05-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > Increase? What increase? What spam? > http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/antispam_postfix/ Apparently at: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/antispam-postfix/ Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

2004-05-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, May 06, 2004 at 02:03:02PM -0700, Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Adam Aube wrote: > > Unfortunately, blacklisting is a much more realistic solution than > > wholesale user education, so yes, blacklisting such providers is > > probably the only workable solution. > > Unfortuna

Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

2004-05-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, May 06, 2004 at 02:52:31PM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It reports spam to the usual suspects. Starting with postmaster/abuse > > addresses, if known. Then IP / domain WHOIS contacts, abuse.net > > contacts, and the

Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

2004-05-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:49:56AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 12:18:10AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Spammer... > > > > *plonk* > > And once again you show the maturity of a spoiled six year old on an > internationally distributed m

Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

2004-05-06 Thread Adam Aube
Steve Lamb wrote: > Adam Aube wrote: >> Unfortunately, blacklisting is a much more realistic solution than >> wholesale user education, so yes, blacklisting such providers is probably >> the only workable solution. > > Unfortunately the reality is unless the blacklisted each other it > wouldn't w

Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o

2004-05-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:49:56AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 12:18:10AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Whilst generally I wouldn't resort to flamage, your statement above > >> > is of such grea