Le Mar 5 mars 2013 16:37, Martin McCormick a écrit :
Miles Fidelman writes:
In Linux/Unix in general, we have a concept that is
rather old of output being something you can send where it needs to go
because you may not always predict where somebody will need to send it for
a particular job.
Miles Fidelman writes:
Which leads me to take just a little issue with your comment that younger
people have more useful experience. I'm actually not entirely sure that's
true. If anything, younger people have narrower (or at least different)
experience.
I tend to agree. Lisi is right
On Tuesday 05 March 2013 15:37:31 Martin McCormick wrote:
Miles Fidelman writes:
Which leads me to take just a little issue with your comment that
younger people have more useful experience. I'm actually not entirely
sure that's true. If anything, younger people have narrower (or at least
What I like about *nix is that it builds on the
experience of 3 decades plus a lot more sound theory. Nobody has
scrapped anything that is truly useful to cut corners and that
is what I find impressive.
I don't think anything is served by a battle of the
young guns versus the old
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 10:56:18AM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote:
What I like about *nix is that it builds on the
experience of 3 decades plus a lot more sound theory. Nobody has
scrapped anything that is truly useful to cut corners and that
is what I find impressive.
I don't
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?)
Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it amounts
to the same thing :)
Cheers,
Tom
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On 03/02/2013 11:27 AM, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?)
Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it
amounts to the same thing :)
Cheers, Tom
In pascal,
Lars Noodén wrote:
On 03/02/2013 11:27 AM, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?)
Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it
amounts to the same thing :)
Cheers, Tom
On Thursday 28 February 2013 23:20:08 Miles Fidelman wrote:
Your experience doesn't make your point of reference of any greater value
than anyone else's. Many people go back a long way. You were obviously
in the miltary and/or in the States, since the first commercial computer
this side
Le Ven 1 mars 2013 0:20, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
- those of us who go back a bit date from a time when computer science
was an offshoot of electrical engineering
analog and digital circuitry before ever touching a computer - gives a
very different perspective than starting with programming
I
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:43:13 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Nope ;)
It was the standard IBM keypunch. I spent many hours muttering at it
in 1961.
Ok... definitely a bit before my time. Used keypunches my freshman year
at college (1971)
Morel Bérenger wrote:
Le Ven 1 mars 2013 0:20, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
- also, those of us who date back a few years still think of computers
as things that need some assembly and bring that view to system software
as well
Well, here, let me laugh.
Something which needs some assembly, is
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:33:41 +
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
He
cannot both be around 70 (he usually says he is approaching 70) and
have worked on/with punched cards in 1949. (Do the arithmetic.)
That certainly doesn't tell the whole story. Those same punch cards
or ones
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand, from TTL logic gates. :-)
You had TTL logic
Brian wrote:
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand, from TTL logic gates. :-)
You had TTL
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:33:41 +
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
He
cannot both be around 70 (he usually says he is approaching 70) and
have worked on/with punched cards in 1949. (Do the arithmetic.)
I never claimed to be THAT old.
Parents married day before
--- On Fri, 3/1/13, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
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Subject: Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience --
was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 12:43 PM
Brian wrote:
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand, from TTL logic gates. :-)
You had TTL
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:37:32 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the
On Friday 01 March 2013 08:33:41 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Thirdly, I didn't notice yesterday, but he is not even telling the truth.
He cannot both be around 70 (he usually says he is approaching 70) and
have worked on/with punched cards in 1949. (Do the arithmetic.)
It has been drawn to my
Lisi Reisz wrote:
It has been drawn to my attention off list that I am wrong ...
NOT TO WORRY
If I took myself too seriously I've siblings {and friends}
who would resolve issue ;/
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On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:34:57AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand, from TTL logic gates. :-)
[Sorry, posted previous post too soon! :D]
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 12:23:01PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand,
Brian wrote:
On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic
stupidity) that seems to be the hallmark of the Linux community. In
the Debian
I don't know if he was referring to that FAQ or not.
*HOWEVER*, as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?),
I find the transition unnecessarily annoying.
I used http://goodbye-microsoft.org once and it went very smoothly.
AFAICT this site doesn't exist any more, but I have the
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Lisi
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Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience
to have a valid point of reference without heavy
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience to have a
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience to have a
On 02/28/13 13:09, Miles Fidelman wrote:
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've
Thomas D. Dean wrote:
On 02/28/13 13:09, Miles Fidelman wrote:
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett
wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just
Richard Owlett wrote:
Nope ;)
It was the standard IBM keypunch. I spent many hours muttering at it
in 1961.
Ok... definitely a bit before my time. Used keypunches my freshman year
at college (1971) - in a course that took us from IBM 360 batch, to
360/TSO, to Multics - but after that,
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:09:46 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:58:56 -0600
Cybe R. Wizard cybe_r_wiz...@earthlink.net wrote:
It's a car punch machine:
^
d
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM26.jpg
...caRd punch machine.
Cybe R. Wizard
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On Thursday 28 February 2013 19:31:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
It's a car punch machine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM26.jpg
Car punch?
http://www.forkparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/E-Honda-Car-Punch.jpg
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To
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 19:31:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've enough
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:08:58 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
It's a car punch machine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM26.jpg
Car punch?
http://www.forkparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/E-Honda-Car-Punch.jpg
Heh, I needed that.
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