Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
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Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-24 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 24 April 2010 02:38, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 04/22/2010 03:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday user who values stability, and prefers to use released software version. Please let me know where I am mistaken.

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-24 Thread Johan Grönqvist
2010-04-24 20:02, Dotan Cohen skrev: Thanks, Ron. I don't see the contradiction: I want released software, no betas or alphas. I am using the word stable as in not crashy (doesn't fall down), not in the sense of doesn't change. I wondered if Testing or Unstable would provide that. I use

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/24/2010 01:02 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 24 April 2010 02:38, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 04/22/2010 03:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday user who values stability, and prefers to use released software version.

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Liam: Or you could wait for the next stable release, or at least for the freeze announcement. Will it be 4.4 version of KDE in next release? - I thought, 4.3 - that is in testing for now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-23, Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Liam: Or you could wait for the next stable release, or at least for the freeze announcement. Will it be 4.4 version of KDE in next release? - I thought, 4.3 - that is in testing for now. I don't use

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/22/2010 03:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday user who values stability, and prefers to use released software version. Please let me know where I am mistaken. Thanks. stable with current releases is a contradiction. If you want

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-23 Thread Thomas Ferry
Im still learning how to use mailing lists I read alot but I dont reply alot. Testing would be your best bet. If you want current you need debian unstable.. I think you can get the binary's from the experiential repo though On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net

Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
I am looking for KDE 4.4.2 and Open Office 3.2 packages for Lenny. I have found qt-kde.debian, Debian Experimental, Testing, Unstable, and Backports. It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday user who values stability, and prefers to use released software version. Please let me

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for KDE 4.4.2 and Open Office 3.2 packages for Lenny. I have found qt-kde.debian, Debian Experimental, Testing, Unstable, and Backports. It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday user who values stability, and

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 22 April 2010 12:25, Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for KDE 4.4.2 and Open Office 3.2 packages for Lenny. I have found qt-kde.debian, Debian Experimental, Testing, Unstable, and Backports. It looks to me that

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: ---SNIP--- From where to acquire KDE 4.4.2 in a reasonably safe manner? I don't know of any backported binaries, so you would have to compile it yourself. That, however, would be a major undertaking, and presupposes that the latest KDE4 even

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
I don't know of any backported binaries, so you would have to compile it yourself. That, however, would be a major undertaking, and presupposes that the latest KDE4 even compiles against the versions of the various libraries included in lenny. Yes, compiling KDE is not a hassle that I want

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know of any backported binaries, so you would have to compile it yourself. That, however, would be a major undertaking, and presupposes that the latest KDE4 even compiles against the versions of the various libraries included in

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
Unfortunately, the goals of always having the latest KDE and a stable distro are not compatible. Not necessarily. KDE has a regular release schedule, with a point release about once a month. I would consider a distro that included the latest point releases stable in the sense of no (or few)

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Have you asked other KDE contributors about their setups? Yes, there is a lot of favour towards Mandriva and Suse. Kubuntu with Project Timelord is also being mentioned. If I jump ship from a Debian based distro, it will likely be to

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:26:07 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: Unfortunately, the goals of always having the latest KDE and a stable distro are not compatible. Not necessarily. KDE has a regular release schedule, with a point release about once a month. I would consider a distro that included the

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
It's hard for distributions to include the latest KDE SC available *and* deliver it as stable. Rolling distros (such Arch Linux), which are always up-to-date, may fit better into this schema. That is where a third-party repo would come in, such as Backports. Kubuntu, for all it's flaws, does

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:13:49 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: It's hard for distributions to include the latest KDE SC available *and* deliver it as stable. Rolling distros (such Arch Linux), which are always up-to-date, may fit better into this schema. That is where a third-party repo would come

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 04/22/2010 11:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: I am looking for KDE 4.4.2 and Open Office 3.2 packages for Lenny. I have found qt-kde.debian, Debian Experimental, Testing, Unstable, and Backports. It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday user who values stability, and prefers to use

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
Fedora 12 has KDE 4.4 and it's in a pretty stable shape. Also, it's officially supported, as opposed to OpenSUSE. I used Fedora from Core 3 to 6. It got very unstable at that point, FC 6, 7, and 8 were breaking critical packages almost monthly. I am reluctant to go back. That said, I think