Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-21 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hmmm... Am Do, den 18.12.2003 schrieb Micha Feigin um 15:14: try checking host your hostname and dig -x your ip check in your mail headers exactly what hostname is used. If you set it using /etc/hostname then it won't match the one given by the isp and thus the two checks would differ and

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-21 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Fr, den 19.12.2003 schrieb Adam um 20:30: On Tuesday 16 December 2003 20:20, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: The solution is - lots of exceptions in exim.conf (bad) - using the proviers smarthost (good) My parents' ISP is now blocking my ISP's SMTP servers but not their whole IP

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-21 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 01:00:12PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Hmmm... Am Do, den 18.12.2003 schrieb Micha Feigin um 15:14: try checking host your hostname and dig -x your ip check in your mail headers exactly what hostname is used. If you set it using /etc/hostname then it won't

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-21 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Am So, den 21.12.2003 schrieb Micha Feigin um 16:02: On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 01:00:12PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Do, den 18.12.2003 schrieb Micha Feigin um 15:14: try checking host your hostname and dig -x your ip check in your mail headers exactly what hostname is used. If

Re: DynIP mail blocking considered harmful (was: Re: My email is rejected by some sites)

2003-12-19 Thread Adam
On Thursday 18 December 2003 21:40, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: You share a network neighbourhood with _others_. Your machine start connections to my machine, and when my machine want's to answer your machine half an hour later, _your_ machine is gone, or another machine is answering, or...,

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-19 Thread ben_foley
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 10:09:26PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Hi, Am Do, den 18.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 02:56: In practice, most dynamic IPs are in use by 24/7 connections which will hold that IP for days, weeks, or months at a time. Incorrect. Most german providers

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-19 Thread Adam
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 20:20, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: The solution is - lots of exceptions in exim.conf (bad) - using the proviers smarthost (good) My parents' ISP is now blocking my ISP's SMTP servers but not their whole IP range. So if I had followed your advice about mailrouting,

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-18 Thread Adam
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 20:20, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: The solution is - lots of exceptions in exim.conf (bad) medium - using the proviers smarthost (good) bad -- That's just given in to the arrogant people. Good: add exceptions to exim.conf when you have to, then send polite (very

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-18 Thread Adam
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 20:30, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Hi, Am Mo, den 15.12.2003 schrieb Adam um 09:06: On Sunday 14 December 2003 21:40, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: everyone should be forced to use a providers machine as smarthost. But it is not right to punish the innocent as

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-18 Thread Adam
On Friday 12 December 2003 01:50, Antonio Rodr wrote: From that description I suspect you may be trying to e-mail to domains that use dynablock.easynet.nl -- a blacklist of dynamically allocated IP addresses. Fortunately (according to http://abuse.easynet.nl/dynablocker.html) that

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-18 Thread Richard Kimber
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:04:58 GMT Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: important!) e-mails to the admins of those domains explaining why you need to route your own mail and stating that they are contravening the end-to-end principles of the internet and punishing the innocent with the guilty. If

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-18 Thread Adam
On Thursday 18 December 2003 12:00, Richard Kimber wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:04:58 GMT Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: important!) e-mails to the admins of those domains explaining why you need to route your own mail and stating that they are contravening the end-to-end principles of the

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-18 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Do, den 18.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 02:56: In practice, most dynamic IPs are in use by 24/7 connections which will hold that IP for days, weeks, or months at a time. Incorrect. Most german providers cancel the connection every 24 hours to force a new DynIP on the machine.

Re: DynIP mail blocking considered harmful (was: Re: My email is rejected by some sites)

2003-12-18 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Do, den 18.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 03:11: on Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:37:09PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Mi, den 17.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 01:21: - There are highly specific filters and methods which can effectively discriminate between spam

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-18 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:39:51PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Wednesday 17 December 2003 21:36, ScruLoose wrote: And, given the popularity of online blacklists that track IPs that are _actually__used_ by spammers, how does it make any sense to move

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 10:09:26PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, Am Do, den 18.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 02:56: In practice, most dynamic IPs are in use by 24/7 connections which will hold that IP for days, weeks, or months at a time. Incorrect.

Re: DynIP mail blocking considered harmful (was: Re: My email is rejected by some sites)

2003-12-17 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 01:21, Karsten M. Self wrote: This isn't acceptable for general-purpose communications, however.  And I'd suggest you look into common carrier laws as well (I'm somewhat familiar with US statutes) as to showing preferences by customer.  I see little distinction

Re: DynIP mail blocking considered harmful (was: Re: My email is rejected by some sites)

2003-12-17 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Magnus von Koeller: Content-Description: signed data On Wednesday 17 December 2003 01:21, Karsten M. Self wrote: This isn't acceptable for general-purpose communications, however.  And I'd suggest you look into common carrier laws as well (I'm And if you don't like your ISP's

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-17 Thread Richard Kimber
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:09:18 + Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's turn this around: why should *I* be forced to accept mail coming from a dynamic IP, when statistically such mail appears much more likely to be spam or viruses? Who are you to tell me that I have to accept such

Re: DynIP mail blocking considered harmful (was: Re: My email is rejected by some sites)

2003-12-17 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Thanks for your useful mail. This thread started to fill my killfile... :-) Am Mi, den 17.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 01:21: - There are highly specific filters and methods which can effectively discriminate between spam and non-spam content. Activity-based lists,

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-17 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:13:35PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Di, den 16.12.2003 schrieb ScruLoose um 21:36: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:08:12PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: A mailserver can harm _others_. I said that yesterday, and today I find this mailinglist full

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-17 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 21:36, ScruLoose wrote: And, given the popularity of online blacklists that track IPs that are _actually__used_ by spammers, how does it make any sense to move backwards from something that's more accurate, in favour of something that's much, MUCH less accurate?

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-17 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Magnus von Koeller: Content-Description: signed data On Wednesday 17 December 2003 21:36, ScruLoose wrote: And, given the popularity of online blacklists that track IPs that are _actually__used_ by spammers, how does it make any sense to move backwards from something that's

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:39:51PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Wednesday 17 December 2003 21:36, ScruLoose wrote: And, given the popularity of online blacklists that track IPs that are _actually__used_ by spammers, how does it make

Re: DynIP mail blocking considered harmful (was: Re: My email is rejected by some sites)

2003-12-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:37:09PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, Thanks for your useful mail. This thread started to fill my killfile... :-) Am Mi, den 17.12.2003 schrieb Karsten M. Self um 01:21: - There are highly specific filters and methods which can

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Am Mo, den 15.12.2003 schrieb Wesley J Landaker um 02:55: Local software is childish, dangerous and nonsense. Local software can destroy (your) local stuff. A mailserver can harm _others_. I said that yesterday, and today I find this mailinglist full of nonsense since one guy is not able to

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Magnus von Koeller um 23:02: On Sunday 14 December 2003 22:46, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: There's no alternative. You can't block open relays on dynamic IPs, since they are _dynamic_ IPs. Yes, what's happening to you is unfair. Any better ideas? I don't

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Mo, den 15.12.2003 schrieb Adam um 09:06: On Sunday 14 December 2003 21:40, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: everyone should be forced to use a providers machine as smarthost. But it is not right to punish the innocent as well as the guilty. It's not a question of morale. :-) With

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Debian User
maybe i missed something in a previous post... isn't it the purpose to soecify hosts you are allowing to relay w/ the host_accept_relay setting in exim.conf? this will allow you not to be an open relay eventhough you have a dynamic IP address. At Tuesday, 16 December 2003, Joerg Rossdeutscher

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 1:08 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Mo, den 15.12.2003 schrieb Wesley J Landaker um 02:55: Local software is childish, dangerous and nonsense. Local software can destroy (your) local stuff. Exactly my point--a mail server is local software. Just another good

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:08:12PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Mo, den 15.12.2003 schrieb Wesley J Landaker um 02:55: Local software is childish, dangerous and nonsense. Local software can destroy (your) local stuff. A mailserver can harm _others_. I said that yesterday, and

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread charlie derr
Debian User wrote: maybe i missed something in a previous post... isn't it the purpose to soecify hosts you are allowing to relay w/ the host_accept_relay setting in exim.conf? this will allow you not to be an open relay eventhough you have a dynamic IP address. I think what you missed is that

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Debian User
but using a smarthost is a way around this. or, just tell your friends who are using aol, earthlink, snet, etc. , that you cannot send email to them because their isp is uptight ;) At Tuesday, 16 December 2003, charlie derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian User wrote: maybe i missed

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Di, den 16.12.2003 schrieb Wesley J Landaker um 21:34: On Tuesday 16 December 2003 1:08 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Mo, den 15.12.2003 schrieb Wesley J Landaker um 02:55: Local software is childish, dangerous and nonsense. Local software can destroy (your) local stuff.

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 06:27:09PM -0800, Raquel Rice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have a block of static IPs. I have the blessings of my provider. I was even asked to stop using their servers as a smart host. Yet, my IP numbers are listed as being a range used as Cable, DSL Dial Ups and

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:34:03PM -0700, Wesley J Landaker wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2003 1:08 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: A mailserver can harm _others_. I totally agree. Which is why I'm all for only allowing arbitrary entities to determine who can and can not run a mail server.

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Debian User
interesting articles. realisically, as i have some business domains on my server, i cannot prevent users from receiving email from aol et. al. accounts. furthermore, i have to use a friend's open relay as smarthost to get aol-bound email off my server. is there no other way to stop aol et.

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Di, den 16.12.2003 schrieb ScruLoose um 21:36: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:08:12PM +0100, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Mo, den 15.12.2003 schrieb Wesley J Landaker um 02:55: A mailserver can harm _others_. I said that yesterday, and today I find this mailinglist full of

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 1:56 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Di, den 16.12.2003 schrieb Wesley J Landaker um 21:34: On Tuesday 16 December 2003 1:08 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Local software can destroy (your) local stuff. Exactly my point--a mail server is local software.

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Debian User
wow ... so, if you don't have exposure to the joys and sorrows of running your own server on the net, how can you really learn? then, the net and everyone who uses it should be licensed like ham radio operators? afterall, the net is just a transmission medium like rf is a transmission medium.

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 2:09 pm, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:34:03PM -0700, Wesley J Landaker wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2003 1:08 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: A mailserver can harm _others_. I totally agree. Which is why I'm all for only allowing arbitrary

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 2:34 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Di, den 16.12.2003 schrieb Wesley J Landaker um 22:15: On Tuesday 16 December 2003 1:56 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Don't do somethink risky if you not /really/ need that. And you absolutely don't need a mailserver at

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:33:59PM -0700, Wesley J Landaker wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2003 2:09 pm, Colin Watson wrote: Let's turn this around: why should *I* be forced to accept mail coming from a dynamic IP, when statistically such mail appears much more likely to be spam or viruses?

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Debian User: or, just tell your friends who are using aol, earthlink, snet, etc. , that you cannot send email to them because their isp is uptight ... And their ISP is uptight because in the past, they've been blacklisted left and right for having _sent_ spam. AOHell has been

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 21:56, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: A DDoS attack is something you _want_ to do. You will not do that accidently. Are you sure? Look at this: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hob-27.11.03-000/default.shtml [Site's in German, though.] -- --- Magnus von Koeller

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 22:12, Debian User wrote: i have to use a friend's open relay as smarthost to get aol-bound email off my server. That probably won't work long... Just wait till that server gets on the Open Relay block lists and then nobody'll get your email anymore. Apart from

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Ken Gilmour
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:32:10 -0500, Antonio Rodr wrote:  I have exim set in my sid machine, with mutt as MUA. Some isps are  rejecting my emails. I have looked at the reason provided, it seems  that some have blocked the ips in my block, or that they are  blocking all dinamic ips. Some isps are

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:42:07PM -0500, charlie derr wrote: Debian User wrote: maybe i missed something in a previous post... isn't it the purpose to soecify hosts you are allowing to relay w/ the host_accept_relay setting in exim.conf? this will allow you not to be an open relay

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Paul Morgan
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:15:43 -0700, Wesley J Landaker wrote: * No one should be allowed to eat more than one meal a day. And no asking for seconds, Oliver. Wesley, I've thoroughly enjoyed the wit which you've brought to this thread. Thank you very much. -- paul

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Debian User
that point is/was not lost on me ... i just did not articulate. At Tuesday, 16 December 2003, ScruLoose [EMAIL PROTECTED] ca wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:42:07PM -0500, charlie derr wrote: Debian User wrote: maybe i missed something in a previous post... isn't it the purpose to soecify

DynIP mail blocking considered harmful (was: Re: My email is rejected by some sites)

2003-12-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:09:18PM +, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:34:03PM -0700, Wesley J Landaker wrote: On Tuesday 16 December 2003 1:08 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: A mailserver can harm _others_. I totally agree. Which is why I'm all for

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:07PM -0500, Debian User ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At Tuesday, 16 December 2003, Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: on Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 06:27:09PM -0800, Raquel Rice ([EMAIL PROTECTED] net) wrote: I have a block of static IPs. I have the

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-16 Thread Antonio Rodr
Local software is childish, dangerous and nonsense. Yes cause, flooding mail servers, writing DDoS attacks, etc! Which is why my proposal specifically called for not allowing users to own or use their own machines. In fact, attempting to subvert this should be punishable by death.

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-15 Thread Adam
On Sunday 14 December 2003 21:50, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Adam um 12:57: On Saturday 13 December 2003 09:50, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: There's nothing wrong with fetching mail - immediately after every dial in - every 10 minutes when being online -

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-15 Thread Adam
On Sunday 14 December 2003 21:40, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Running and maintaining a mailserver is a difficult job. Configuring a mailserver to route mail outward from a firewalled LAN is not difficult. Incorrect configured mailservers can cause a lot of problems to others. That's

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-15 Thread Christian Schnobrich
On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 22:41, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: This is even easier. Your local mailserver should not immediately deliver to the recipient, but to your providers smarthost. The mail will But how could I do this? Sorry if I'm capturing a thread here... I've posted my quetsions to that

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Adam
On Saturday 13 December 2003 09:50, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: I agree to that. Not everyone should use a private mailserver. Hobbyists and Freaks should not run such service, it's a job for professionals, and those have a static ip. I'm really tired of writing a lot in mailinglists an get

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Al Davis
On Thursday 11 December 2003 03:56 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Yes, many ISPs do that, and it's a good thing. We all would drown in spam if they accepted mail from everywhere. There is absolutely nothing you can do except to use your providers mailserver. On Saturday 13 December 2003

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Sunday 14 December 2003 17:21, Al Davis wrote: It is worth putting up with some spam to get a free, uncensored, fast email system. Free, uncensored and worthless would be a better description for my email account if it wasn't for my Spam filtering - considering that 95% of my email is

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Al Davis
On Sunday 14 December 2003 12:41 pm, Magnus von Koeller wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2003 17:21, Al Davis wrote: It is worth putting up with some spam to get a free, uncensored, fast email system. Free, uncensored and worthless would be a better description for my email account if it

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:26:07 -0500, Al Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually ... I have several email addresses, and my mail comes in from several paths. MY spam filtering seems to be nearly 100% effective on the freeelectron address, which I control. It

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Al Davis um 17:21: On Thursday 11 December 2003 03:56 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Yes, many ISPs do that, and it's a good thing. We all would drown in spam if they accepted mail from everywhere. There is absolutely nothing you can do except to use your

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Adam um 12:57: On Saturday 13 December 2003 09:50, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: There's nothing wrong with fetching mail - immediately after every dial in - every 10 minutes when being online - every 3 hours no matter if already online Works fine here.

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Raquel Rice um 03:27: Blocking an IP range just without knowing they are open relays or sending out spam is no better than arresting a black man because the police officer has some idiot belief that black men commit all crimes. There's no alternative. You can't

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Sunday 14 December 2003 22:46, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: There's no alternative. You can't block open relays on dynamic IPs, since they are _dynamic_ IPs. Yes, what's happening to you is unfair. Any better ideas? I don't see one. And I don't want to receive spam from millions of open

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Joerg Rossdeutscher: Censorship? Nonsense. Blah, blah, blah. *plonk* -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread Wesley J Landaker
On Sunday 14 December 2003 2:37 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Al Davis um 17:21: On Thursday 11 December 2003 03:56 pm, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Yes, many ISPs do that, and it's a good thing. We all would drown in spam if they accepted mail from

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-14 Thread ben_foley
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:41:59PM +0100, Magnus von Koeller wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Sunday 14 December 2003 17:21, Al Davis wrote: It is worth putting up with some spam to get a free, uncensored, fast email system. Free, uncensored and worthless would be a better

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-13 Thread Mihalis I. Tsoukalos
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 02:48:25PM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: Quoting Antonio Rodr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have exim set in my sid machine, with mutt as MUA. Some isps are rejecting my emails. I have looked at the reason provided, it seems that some have blocked the ips in my block, or

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-13 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Do, den 11.12.2003 schrieb Adam um 23:26: On Thursday 11 December 2003 21:10, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Am Do, den 11.12.2003 schrieb Antonio Rodr um 21:32: I have exim set in my sid machine, with mutt as MUA. Some isps are rejecting my emails. I have looked at the reason

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-13 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Do, den 11.12.2003 schrieb Thanasis Kinias um 21:51: AOL was the first that I encountered to do this; over the summer, they started blocking all e-mail originating from Cox IP addresses. Not long thereafter, Cox blocked all outbound SMTP except to their own mailserver, so I had to go

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-13 Thread Antonio Rodr)
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:29:05 -0800 Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * TR ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031212 04:02]: Somebody whose attribution has been removed wrote: Well, really you'll just need one such router, with the bad domains listed on that domains = line. Me, I'd use a filename

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-13 Thread Adam
On Saturday 13 December 2003 10:00, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Hi, Am Do, den 11.12.2003 schrieb Thanasis Kinias um 21:51: AOL was the first that I encountered to do this; over the summer, they started blocking all e-mail originating from Cox IP addresses. Not long thereafter, Cox blocked

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-13 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 at 09:46 GMT, Joerg Rossdeutscher penned: I agree to that. Not everyone should use a private mailserver. Hobbyists and Freaks should not run such service, it's a job for professionals, and those have a static ip. I'm really tired of writing a lot in mailinglists an get

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-12 Thread Adam
On Friday 12 December 2003 01:50, Antonio Rodr wrote: Please do post an example. I think I need one. Thanks. This example is from an Exim 4 config file, but I think it will work in Exim 3 too. (Could someone please correct this if it's wrong?) The following stanza goes in the ROUTERS

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-12 Thread TR
My isp killed me again, when I tried to email to my self a test after changing exim.conf as indicated So, let me ask a couple of questions: * Thanasis Kinias ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031211 13:03]: # For AOL... aol: driver = domainlist domains = aol.com

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-12 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit TR: * Thanasis Kinias ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031211 13:03]: # For AOL... aol: driver = domainlist domains = aol.com transport = remote_smtp route_list = * smtp.west.cox.net Is there a space between the * and smtp? Yes,

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-12 Thread Vineet Kumar
* TR ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031212 04:02]: Somebody whose attribution has been removed wrote: Well, really you'll just need one such router, with the bad domains listed on that domains = line. Me, I'd use a filename there and that way be able to just edit the file whenever I felt like it

My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Antonio Rodr
I have exim set in my sid machine, with mutt as MUA. Some isps are rejecting my emails. I have looked at the reason provided, it seems that some have blocked the ips in my block, or that they are blocking all dinamic ips. Some isps are accepting my emails without problems. At some point I thought

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Antonio Rodr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have exim set in my sid machine, with mutt as MUA. Some isps are rejecting my emails. I have looked at the reason provided, it seems that some have blocked the ips in my block, or that they are blocking all dinamic ips. Some isps are accepting my

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Antonio Rodr: I have exim set in my sid machine, with mutt as MUA. Some isps are rejecting my emails. I have looked at the reason provided, it seems that some have blocked the ips in my block, or that they are blocking all dinamic ips. Some isps are accepting my emails without

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Do, den 11.12.2003 schrieb Antonio Rodr um 21:32: I have exim set in my sid machine, with mutt as MUA. Some isps are rejecting my emails. I have looked at the reason provided, it seems that some have blocked the ips in my block, or that they are blocking all dinamic ips. Yes, many

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Antonio Rodr
You will need to set this up for each obnoxious mail domain. Or, you can give up entirely and relay everything, like I was forced to do. Then add something like this as the very first entry in the section: coxsucks: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Antonio Rodr: You will need to set this up for each obnoxious mail domain. Or, you can give up entirely and relay everything, like I was forced to do. Then add something like this as the very first entry in the section: coxsucks: driver = domainlist

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Adam
On Thursday 11 December 2003 20:40, Antonio Rodr wrote: I have exim set in my sid machine, with mutt as MUA. Some isps are rejecting my emails. I have looked at the reason provided, it seems that some have blocked the ips in my block, or that they are blocking all dinamic ips. Some isps are

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Adam
On Thursday 11 December 2003 21:10, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: Hi, Am Do, den 11.12.2003 schrieb Antonio Rodr um 21:32: I have exim set in my sid machine, with mutt as MUA. Some isps are rejecting my emails. I have looked at the reason provided, it seems that some have blocked the ips in

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Adam: Which may or may not be reliable. My ISP's mailservers are reliable _most_ of the time -- but when they are not, they do not return warning messages until they bounce the mail after 48 hours on the queue. Try Cox. In their latest episode of incompetence, there was no

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Antonio Rodr
From that description I suspect you may be trying to e-mail to domains that use dynablock.easynet.nl -- a blacklist of dynamically allocated IP addresses. Fortunately (according to http://abuse.easynet.nl/dynablocker.html) that blacklist will go out of commission soon. I hope responsible

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Thanasis Kinias ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031211 13:03]: # For AOL... aol: driver = domainlist domains = aol.com transport = remote_smtp route_list = * smtp.west.cox.net You will need to set this up for each obnoxious mail domain.[...] Well, really

Re: My email is rejected by some sites

2003-12-11 Thread Thanasis Kinias
scripsit Vineet Kumar: * Thanasis Kinias ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031211 13:03]: # For AOL... aol: driver = domainlist domains = aol.com transport = remote_smtp route_list = * smtp.west.cox.net You will need to set this up for each obnoxious