Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-13 Thread Jiri Baum
Eliezer Figueroa: > Packeges in non-us means that they are not in english? It means that the US government would like to keep cryptography out of the hands of its citizens and the only almost-legal way they have is to pretend that they are worried about foreign terrorists. Well, either that

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-13 Thread Julian R Fondren
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Richard Harran wrote: > I think that it is still an export thing: the difference is that the > international version has weaker encryption, which is not covered by > the export laws (and is less secure: probably the which ever agency it > is can crack it). > However, I'm Engli

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-12 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : John Hasler dixit: : > Horacio writes: : > > There are some restriction laws on importing and : > > exporting crypto into/out of the U.S. : > : > The US has no laws restricting the importation of crypto. : : I believe downloading any of the

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-11 Thread John Hasler
Richard Harran writes: > I think that it is still an export thing: the difference is that the > international version has weaker encryption, which is not covered by > the export laws (and is less secure: probably the which ever agency it > is can crack it). No. The international version of pgp in

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-11 Thread Roland E. Lipovits
On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 12:46:08PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > export). Thus, so far as PGP is concerned, pgp-us and pgp-i should be the > same (with the exception of the RSAREF issue, which I'm not sure what it > means, since the international versions do deal with RSA keys). I don't know

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-11 Thread homega
As Garrick said, the code from PGP was scanned and taken out of the States in hard print (therefore bypassing the bann on "electronic crypto code" export). Thus, so far as PGP is concerned, pgp-us and pgp-i should be the same (with the exception of the RSAREF issue, which I'm not sure what it mean

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-11 Thread Garrick Chien Welsh
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, J.H.M. Dassen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 21:01:48 +1100, Garrick Chien Welsh wrote: > > I've never heard anything to suggest it was illegal for anyone in America > > to use an international version of that software. > > Quoting from the description of the "rsaref" packa

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-11 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 21:01:48 +1100, Garrick Chien Welsh wrote: > I've never heard anything to suggest it was illegal for anyone in America > to use an international version of that software. Quoting from the description of the "rsaref" package: : RSAREF is a cryptographic toolkit developed by

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-11 Thread Richard Harran
I think that it is still an export thing: the difference is that the international version has weaker encryption, which is not covered by the export laws (and is less secure: probably the which ever agency it is can crack it). However, I'm English, so what would I know? Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-11 Thread Garrick Chien Welsh
Coming from Australia On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Hasler dixit: > > Horacio writes: > > > There are some restriction laws on importing and > > > exporting crypto into/out of the U.S. > > > > The US has no laws restricting the importation of crypto. > > I believe download

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-11 Thread homega
John Hasler dixit: > Horacio writes: > > There are some restriction laws on importing and > > exporting crypto into/out of the U.S. > > The US has no laws restricting the importation of crypto. I believe downloading any of the `international' versions of a crypto based program is illegal within

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-11 Thread John Hasler
Horacio writes: > There are some restriction laws on importing and > exporting crypto into/out of the U.S. The US has no laws restricting the importation of crypto. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-10 Thread homega
Eliezer Figueroa dixit: > Packeges in non-us means that they are not in english? I think it means that they cannot be used in the U.S. since they include some cryptographic code. There are some restriction laws on importing and exporting crypto into/out of the U.S. (shouldn't this apply

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-10 Thread John Hasler
Eliezer Figueroa writes: > Packeges in non-us means that they are not in english? No. It means the they cannot be distributed from sites in the US for legal reasons. Non-us contains mostly cryptographic software that it is illegal to export from the US (yes, I know this makes no sense)

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-10 Thread Ian Keith Setford
It means that the server is not located in the US, excepting it from US encryption laws. -Ian On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Eliezer Figueroa wrote: > Packeges in non-us means that they are not in english? > > __ > Get Your Private, Free E

Re: NON-US means?

1999-02-10 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Eliezer Figueroa wrote: > Packeges in non-us means that they are not in english? > No, it means that export restrictions prevent them from being made available for download from a site in the USA. For example, there are laws in

NON-US means?

1999-02-10 Thread Eliezer Figueroa
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