Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-09-07 Thread Paul Scott
Cousin Stanley wrote: John Haggerty wrote: I would ask would a static ip really be able to allow the machines to reach the outer network? Why not? As long as the outer fixed IP is routable which it would be. OTOH dyndns.org and others provide a way to tell the outside world

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-09-07 Thread Cousin Stanley
OTOH dyndns.org and others provide a way to tell the outside world what your current IP is. These services are free for personal use. I do most of what you are doing. Paul Are you using qwest dsl ? Yes. Paul Thanks for the acknowledgement I may try

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-31 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: To me disallowing running servers is pretty close to the issue of net-neutrality, so I prefer to stay away from such ISPs. It isn't usually the customer who is running a server: he doesn't know what it is. It's the botnet herder who controls the machine that runs the servers.

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-31 Thread Siggy Brentrup
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 07:15 -0500, John Hasler wrote: Stefan writes: To me disallowing running servers is pretty close to the issue of net-neutrality, so I prefer to stay away from such ISPs. It isn't usually the customer who is running a server: he doesn't know what it is. It's the

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-31 Thread Raquel
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:57:28 -0400 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: That's true. But at least around where I live, those ISPs that offer static IPs for a small surcharge are smaller, cheaper, and offer better service. Then again, those tend to not filter any ports even with

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-31 Thread Cousin Stanley
John Haggerty wrote: I would ask would a static ip really be able to allow the machines to reach the outer network? Why not? As long as the outer fixed IP is routable which it would be. OTOH dyndns.org and others provide a way to tell the outside world what your current IP

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
To me disallowing running servers is pretty close to the issue of net-neutrality, so I prefer to stay away from such ISPs. It isn't usually the customer who is running a server: he doesn't know what it is. It's the botnet herder who controls the machine that runs the servers. As long as

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-31 Thread John Haggerty
I guess based on the feedback so far (which I think is good for a worse case scenario) what I am wondering if replacing the switches with routers would do anything about getting access to the system? On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.cawrote: To me

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-31 Thread John Haggerty
I checked the prices here http://www.qwest.net/help/static_ips.html#howmuch it seems that we are looking at the following *# of IP Addresses**Monthly Rate**One Time Charge* 1 (1 useable)$5.95$25.00 8 (5 useable)$14.95$50.00 16 (13 useable)$29.95$75.00 32 (29 useable)$59.95 $150.00 64 (61

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-31 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: Do you really think that botnets can only run their servers on port 80? I said nothing about port numbers. In any case, in the quoted paragraph, I'm not talking about blocking ports, but about contract clauses that say thou shalt not run a server. Which let an ISP block ports

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread John Haggerty
I would ask would a static ip really be able to allow the machines to reach the outer network? On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Cousin Stanley cousinstan...@hotmail.comwrote: Ok so here is the issue I have a desire to run my own linux server as an rt box and to do wiki web serving plus

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Cousin Stanley
I run off of a qwest dsl setup that is feeding 4 computers I would ask would a static ip really be able to allow the machines to reach the outer network ? John In all honesty, I don't know as I haven't tried outside connections through my qwest dsl with a static ip

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Paul Scott
John Haggerty wrote: I would ask would a static ip really be able to allow the machines to reach the outer network? Why not? As long as the outer fixed IP is routable which it would be. OTOH dyndns.org and others provide a way to tell the outside world what your current IP is. These

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread John Haggerty
Is there a particular brand of router? Is the multi-tiered switch configuration preventing this? On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Paul Scott psl...@ultrasw.com wrote: John Haggerty wrote: I would ask would a static ip really be able to allow the machines to reach the outer network? Why

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
Ok so here is the issue I have a desire to run my own linux server as an rt box and to do wiki web serving plus email. This requires outside machines to be able to connect to your server on port 80 by default. It's fairly common for ISPs to block port 80 specifically because they don't want

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-30 21:43, Stefan Monnier wrote: [snip] Of course, a static IP would probably work as well, not by its nature but because your ISP probably doesn't block port 80 for their static IPs (since that would defeat the main purpose of having a static IP). Some ISPs only have a small

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
Of course, a static IP would probably work as well, not by its nature but because your ISP probably doesn't block port 80 for their static IPs (since that would defeat the main purpose of having a static IP). Some ISPs only have a small surcharge for static IPs, but others only offer them to

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-27 Thread Cousin Stanley
Ok so here is the issue I have a desire to run my own linux server as an rt box and to do wiki web serving plus email. I run off of a qwest dsl setup that is feeding 4 computers that are all getting internet 6. I am looking for the best option for the money I like cheap and

Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-26 Thread John Haggerty
Ok so here is the issue I have a desire to run my own linux server as an rt box and to do wiki web serving plus email. I run off of a qwest dsl setup that is feeding 4 computers that are all getting internet in the following configuration dsl non wireless model modem-switch-[a]windows xp