Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-08-12 00:13:31 +, Dale Forsyth wrote: > > From: Pétùr > Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 7:41 PM > To: debian-user > Subject: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 > > Using 'su' generates now an path error when launching programs

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-13 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-08-13 14:06 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > Actually, util-linux is distributed by the Linux Kernel Organization > (i.e. the folks at kernel.org). So, yes, Debian has to match what Red > Hat does inasmuch as Red Hat uses a Linux kernel and so does > Debian. It just makes sense to use the

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-13 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:43:12AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:41:34AM +0200, Pétùr wrote: The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. I did the modification in /etc/login.defs and restore the previous behavior. However I am concern with the

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:41:34AM +0200, Pétùr wrote: > The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. > I did the modification in /etc/login.defs and restore the previous > behavior. However I am concern with the statement " Doing plain 'su' > is a really bad idea for many

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Dale Forsyth
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Pétùr Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2018 7:41 PM To: debian-user Subject: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Using 'su' generates now an path error when launching

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Curt
On 2018-08-11, Pétùr wrote: > Le 11/08/2018 à 16:03, Curt a écrit : >> There was a lengthy discussion, but within it I don't remember anyone >> detailing the numerous reasons (or any reason at all) executing plain >> 'su' is a "really bad idea," (where I'm reading "really bad idea" to >> mean

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Pétùr
Le 11/08/2018 à 13:42, Nicolas George a écrit : > Pétùr (2018-08-11): >> The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. > Maybe learn how to use $PATH? If I modify $PATH for the new "su", I basically re-implement the old behavior of "su". This is exactly what adding

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Pétùr
Le 11/08/2018 à 16:03, Curt a écrit : > There was a lengthy discussion, but within it I don't remember anyone > detailing the numerous reasons (or any reason at all) executing plain > 'su' is a "really bad idea," (where I'm reading "really bad idea" to > mean having unintended and very detrimental

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Samuel Henrique
> > There was a lengthy discussion, but within it I don't remember anyone > detailing the numerous reasons (or any reason at all) executing plain > 'su' is a "really bad idea," (where I'm reading "really bad idea" to > mean having unintended and very detrimental consequences to the > hapless

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Curt
On 2018-08-11, Stefan Krusche wrote: >> >> The first difference is probably the most user visible one. Doing >> plain 'su' is a really bad idea for many reasons, so using 'su -' is >> strongly recommended to always get a newly set up environment similar >> to a normal login. If you want

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Nicolas George
Pétùr (2018-08-11): > The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. Maybe learn how to use $PATH? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Samstag 11 August 2018 schrieb Pétùr: > Using 'su' generates now an path error when launching programs such as > 'shutdown'. The cause is a new behavior described below. --- > util-linux (2.32-0.4) unstable; urgency=medium > > The util-linux implementation of /bin/su is now used, replacing

New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

2018-08-11 Thread Pétùr
Using 'su' generates now an path error when launching programs such as 'shutdown'. The cause is a new behavior described below. --- util-linux (2.32-0.4) unstable; urgency=medium The util-linux implementation of /bin/su is now used, replacing the one previously supplied by src:shadow (shipped