Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 12 nov 12, 16:24:04, David Guntner wrote: Ok, try this just for grins. Edit your /etc/mtab file, and add the following line: /dev/ad6s1 /mnt/ad6s1 ext2fs ro 0 0 Just for the archives: this might be dangerous (if at all possible) on recent Debian GNU/Linux: $ ls -l /etc/mtab

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-13 Thread David Guntner
William A. Mahaffey III grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 11/12/12 18:24, David Guntner wrote: Ok, try this just for grins. Edit your /etc/mtab file, and add the following line: /dev/ad6s1 /mnt/ad6s1 ext2fs ro 0 0 (I'm following your example from ad4s1; ordinarily with a Linux kernel that

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:50:20AM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 593 # mount -t ext3 /dev/ad0s1 /mnt mount: /dev/ad0s1 : No such device [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 594 # mount -t ext3 /dev/ad6s1 /mnt mount: /dev/ad6s1 : No

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
On 11/12/12 11:10, Tom Furie wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:50:20AM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 593 # mount -t ext3 /dev/ad0s1 /mnt mount: /dev/ad0s1 : No such device [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 594 # mount -t ext3

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
On 11/12/12 11:10, Tom Furie wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:50:20AM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 593 # mount -t ext3 /dev/ad0s1 /mnt mount: /dev/ad0s1 : No such device [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 594 # mount -t ext3

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread David Guntner
William A. Mahaffey III grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 11/12/12 11:10, Tom Furie wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:50:20AM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 593 # mount -t ext3 /dev/ad0s1 /mnt mount: /dev/ad0s1 : No such device

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
On 11/12/12 16:27, David Guntner wrote: William A. Mahaffey III grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 11/12/12 11:10, Tom Furie wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:50:20AM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 593 # mount -t ext3 /dev/ad0s1 /mnt mount:

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread David Guntner
William A. Mahaffey III grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 11/12/12 16:27, David Guntner wrote: William A. Mahaffey III grabbed a keyboard and wrote: ad[0,6]s1 are the 2 offending partitions. Also, in the interlude, I went ahead e2fsck'ed both partitions, both came back w/ '* FILE SYSTEM

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 02:17:19PM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: On 11/12/12 11:10, Tom Furie wrote: Are you able to mount those filesystems as ext2? Any ext3 filesystem should be mountable as ext2. Tried it: [root@opty165a:/etc, Mon Nov 12, 02:12 PM] 802 # mount -t ext3

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
On 11/12/12 18:24, David Guntner wrote: William A. Mahaffey III grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 11/12/12 16:27, David Guntner wrote: William A. Mahaffey III grabbed a keyboard and wrote: ad[0,6]s1 are the 2 offending partitions. Also, in the interlude, I went ahead e2fsck'ed both

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
On 11/12/12 21:50, Tom Furie wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 02:17:19PM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: On 11/12/12 11:10, Tom Furie wrote: Are you able to mount those filesystems as ext2? Any ext3 filesystem should be mountable as ext2. Tried it: [root@opty165a:/etc, Mon Nov 12, 02:12

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:34:36AM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: *Acck* So it's a typo ?!?!?! I was using ext2/3/4, not ext2/3/4*fs* I just tried it mounted when I try ext3fs, it is *nogo* Sooo ext3/4 apparently *not* supported under

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-12 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
On 11/13/12 00:36, Tom Furie wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:34:36AM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: *Acck* So it's a typo ?!?!?! I was using ext2/3/4, not ext2/3/4*fs* I just tried it mounted when I try ext3fs, it is *nogo* Sooo ext3/4

Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-11 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
I am brand new to Debian, have used RH's for about 10 years, SGI SuSE before that, Mandrake before that, ConvexOS before that. I installed Squeeze-kfreeBSD on a Socket 939 Opteron server that I recently replaced the root drive (which had croaked) on. I like the small memory footprint

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-11 Thread Jude DaShiell
Slackware 14.0 is available and it also has a small footprint. If you choose not to install all the bloatware no g.u.i. you can probably end up with a full command line installation except for emacs in a little under a hundred meg. If you decide to install emacs, I suggest you do it using

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/12 09:50, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 10:49 AM] 592 # ll /dev/ad* crw-rw 1 root disk 0, 78 Nov 10 08:34 /dev/ad0 crw-rw 1 root disk 0, 79 Nov 10 08:34 /dev/ad0s1 crw-rw 1 root disk 0, 82 Nov 10 08:34 /dev/ad4 crw-rw 1 root disk 0, 83

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-11 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
On 11/11/12 13:13, David Christensen wrote: On 11/11/12 09:50, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 10:49 AM] 592 # ll /dev/ad* crw-rw 1 root disk 0, 78 Nov 10 08:34 /dev/ad0 crw-rw 1 root disk 0, 79 Nov 10 08:34 /dev/ad0s1 crw-rw 1 root disk 0, 82 Nov 10

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-11 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
On 11/11/12 13:05, Jude DaShiell wrote: Slackware 14.0 is available and it also has a small footprint. If you choose not to install all the bloatware no g.u.i. you can probably end up with a full command line installation except for emacs in a little under a hundred meg. If you decide to

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/12 12:54, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: Does Debian-kfreeBSD in fact have ext3fs support ? I dunno -- perhaps that's the problem. (I use Debian Squeeze i386 and Debian Wheezy amd64.) A console-only install of Debian Squeeze i386 can have a fairly small memory footprint (my CVS

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-11 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello David, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 11/11/12 09:50, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: crw-rw 1 root disk 0, 89 Nov 10 08:34 /dev/ad6s1 [root@opty165a:/etc, Sun Nov 11, 11:44 AM] 594 # mount -t ext3 /dev/ad6s1 /mnt mount: /dev/ad6s1 : No such device

Re: Noob Question :-/ ....

2012-11-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday, November 11, 2012 04:08:47 PM David Christensen wrote: On 11/11/12 12:54, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: Does Debian-kfreeBSD in fact have ext3fs support ? I dunno -- perhaps that's the problem. (I use Debian Squeeze i386 and Debian Wheezy amd64.) A console-only install of

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-04-15 06:57:16, schrieb Freddy Freeloader: Michael Pobega wrote: I have one recurring problem with aptitude. It keeps trying to remove gnome and everything related to it and a bunch of other stuff. ^^ Fortunately it takes up enough real estate on the

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-15 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:00:02 -0400 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Curious: what does apt-get do that aptitude non-interactive do; how does the user's experience of each differ? I thought that aptitude for simple stuff a drop-in replacement for

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-15 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 07:13:07AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 05:50:26PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 02:36:40PM

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-15 Thread Russell L. Harris
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070414 16:28]: I've been using Debian for about a month, and just upgraded to Etch. ... I am wondering about the best way to install software. I have used the apt-get method, which is pretty simple, and have also downloaded and compiled from source

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-15 Thread Freddy Freeloader
Michael Pobega wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 07:13:07AM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 05:50:26PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-15 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:50:59 -0500 Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070414 16:28]: I've been using Debian for about a month, and just upgraded to Etch. ... I am wondering about the best way to install software. I have used the apt-get

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-15 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 06:57:16AM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote: I have one recurring problem with aptitude. It keeps trying to remove gnome and everything related to it and a bunch of other stuff. Fortunately it takes up enough real estate on the screen that it is hard to miss and I just

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-15 Thread Frank Terbeck
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 06:00:02PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: [...] sudo apt-get build-dep texmacs sudo apt-get source texmacs [...] Are those things a newbie cares about? I've never used them in the 8

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 14 Apr 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 05:50:26PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 02:36:40PM -0700, Adam Frank wrote: For beginners I'd definitely recommend apt-get, or even one of its GUI fronteds like Synaptic. The only problem for a

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-15 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:57:19 -0400 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar wrote: But we did find this for 'build-dep': http://p12n.org/hacks/aptitude-build-dep When people say aptitude, they usually refer to the one supplied by Debian. The above is not included

Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread georgepwhite
I've been using Debian for about a month, and just upgraded to Etch. I'm very happy with it so far - my compliments to the people who create this great piece of work. I am wondering about the best way to install software. I have used the apt-get method, which is pretty simple, and have also

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Adam Frank
For beginners I'd definitely recommend apt-get, or even one of its GUI fronteds like Synaptic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 09:22:56PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Debian for about a month, and just upgraded to Etch. I'm very happy with it so far - my compliments to the people who create this great piece of work. I am wondering about the best way to install software. I

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 09:22:56PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Debian for about a month, and just upgraded to Etch. I'm very happy with it so far - my compliments to the people who create this great piece of work. I am wondering about the best way to install software. I

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 02:36:40PM -0700, Adam Frank wrote: For beginners I'd definitely recommend apt-get, or even one of its GUI fronteds like Synaptic. The only problem for a beginner using Synaptic is that if it is all she knows, and X crashes, they have no experience to fall back on. Its

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Jochen Schulz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am wondering about the best way to install software. I have used the apt-get method, which is pretty simple, and have also downloaded and compiled from source tarballs which is a little more complicated but doesn't seem to be a big deal. Are there significant advantages

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Debian for about a month, and just upgraded to Etch. I'm very happy with it so far - my compliments to the people who create this great piece of work. I am wondering about the best way to install software. I have used the apt-get method, which is

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Curious: what does apt-get do that aptitude non-interactive do; how does the user's experience of each differ? I thought that aptitude for simple stuff a drop-in replacement for apt-get. sudo apt-get build-dep texmacs sudo apt-get source texmacs Replace texmacs

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 06:00:02PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Curious: what does apt-get do that aptitude non-interactive do; how does the user's experience of each differ? I thought that aptitude for simple stuff a drop-in replacement for apt-get.

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 06:00:02PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Curious: what does apt-get do that aptitude non-interactive do; how does the user's experience of each differ? I thought that aptitude for simple stuff a

Re: Noob question - best way to install software

2007-04-14 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 05:50:26PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 02:36:40PM -0700, Adam Frank wrote: For beginners I'd definitely recommend apt-get, or even one of its GUI fronteds like Synaptic. The only problem

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 08:16:47PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: Personally, if you have sufficient harddrive space, I'd keep your current Etch install pointing to Etch in /etc/apt/sources.list. then I would install another instance of Etch. I'd keep this pointing to Etch, then when Etch goes

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 06:34:21PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:37:02 +0100 Nick Demou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]Further down the release cycle, testing gets naturally more and more stable and easier and easier to administer and less likely to break as the

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Chris Lale
Nigel Henry wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:36, Michael S. Peek wrote: [...] Personally, if you have sufficient harddrive space, I'd keep your current Etch install pointing to Etch in /etc/apt/sources.list. then I would install another instance of Etch. I'd keep this pointing to

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:37:02 +0100 Nick Demou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]Further down the release cycle, testing gets naturally more and more stable and easier and easier to administer and less likely to break as the new versions get massaged into their final release condition. I

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Chris Lale
Chris Lale wrote: Nigel Henry wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:36, Michael S. Peek wrote: [...] Personally, if you have sufficient harddrive space, I'd keep your current Etch install pointing to Etch in /etc/apt/sources.list. then I would install another instance of Etch. I'd keep

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Lale wrote: Chris Lale wrote: Nigel Henry wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:36, Michael S. Peek wrote: [...] Personally, if you have sufficient harddrive space, I'd keep your current Etch install pointing to Etch in

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:52:07 +0100 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a feeling this is likely to start a debate. Be that as it may, I set my KDE to select on one click and activate on two. However, if I run konqueror as root, then I get the single click activation again. Oh well. I

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:52:07 +0100 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a feeling this is likely to start a debate. Be that as it may, I set my KDE to select on one click and activate on two. However, if I run

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:56:18 +0100 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure a cp would work just as well, but I like the Auto Skip that Konqueror does, not to mention I can track the progress. Have a look at mc (Midnight Commander). It is text mode (so it also runs from a console), but is

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-15 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: So, if you leave your sources.list with testing then after the release, you will continue to see package upgrades as things move from unstable to testing. If you use etch then when Etch becomes stable, you will only see security updates. Regards, -Roberto Wait,

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:15:25AM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: Wait, so stable only gets security updates? What if there's a bug in a package, will it get a fix? And I guess just to finish off my questionnaire, do packages in stable ever get upgrades for additional functionality? Stable

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:15:25AM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: If stable only gets security updates, then I find it rather funny that I know someone running a Debian system with a custom perl script designed to get only security updates via apt-get. Was this script a total waste of his

re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-15 Thread Nick Demou
2007/2/14, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:17:56PM -0500, Michael S. Peek wrote: [...] I personally think that if you want the latest greatest stuff one should run sid instead of testing. If something breaks in sid, it tends to fix itself pretty quickly.

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-15 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 10:15 -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: So, if you leave your sources.list with testing then after the release, you will continue to see package upgrades as things move from unstable to testing. If you use etch then when Etch becomes stable, you

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-15 Thread Grok Mogger
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:15:25AM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote: Wait, so stable only gets security updates? What if there's a bug in a package, will it get a fix? And I guess just to finish off my questionnaire, do packages in stable ever get upgrades for additional

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Michael M.
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 11:36 -0500, Michael S. Peek wrote: Hi Debian gurus, I jumped aboard the Debian bandwagon mid-Sarge, and so that's the version of Debian that our machines are currently running. As Etch nears it's completion I've been preparing for the upgrade from Sarge to Etch.

Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Michael S. Peek
Hi Debian gurus, I jumped aboard the Debian bandwagon mid-Sarge, and so that's the version of Debian that our machines are currently running. As Etch nears it's completion I've been preparing for the upgrade from Sarge to Etch. Since I'm still pretty new to Debian, I'm a little iffy when it

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael S. Peek[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what if what I want is to keep our machines at testing? It seems to have the latest and grooviest versions of stuff. So how badly would I be shooting myself in the foot if I changed etch to testing in

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Michael S. Peek
Andy Hawkins wrote: That would be just fine. As I understand it, stuff doesn't make it from unstable to testing until it's been working in unstable for a while, so the chances of testing breaking horribly are reduced. It can still happen though, so there's a possibility that in the early stages

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael S. Peek wrote: Okay, so, just to make sure that I understand completely. Once Etch becomes the new stable release, does the unstable release replace the testing release? I.e. if I leave my systems at testing, will I come in one day and

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:17:56PM -0500, Michael S. Peek wrote: Okay, so, just to make sure that I understand completely. Once Etch becomes the new stable release, does the unstable release replace the testing release? I.e. if I leave my systems at testing, will I come in one day and

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael S. Peek[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so, just to make sure that I understand completely. Once Etch becomes the new stable release, does the unstable release replace the testing release? I.e. if I leave my systems at testing, will I

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Hodgins Family
I've seen several warnings now about making sure to change testing to etch in /etc/apt/sources.lst once Etch goes stable. (For testing purposes I've just always left it etch.) But what if what I want is to keep our machines at testing? It seems to have the latest and grooviest versions

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: However, since Etch has been frozen, there are a lot of packages from Sid that are ready for Testing, but can't go there. Lenny will catch them when it is created, thus it is possible that the large number of packages flowing in could cause some stability problems. Don't forget,

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:17:56PM -0500, Michael S. Peek wrote: Andy Hawkins wrote: That would be just fine. As I understand it, stuff doesn't make it from unstable to testing until it's been working in unstable for a while, so the chances of testing breaking horribly are reduced. It can

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:36, Michael S. Peek wrote: Hi Debian gurus, I jumped aboard the Debian bandwagon mid-Sarge, and so that's the version of Debian that our machines are currently running. As Etch nears it's completion I've been preparing for the upgrade from Sarge to Etch.

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Michael S. Peek
Joe Hart wrote: According to the documentation, when Etch is made stable, a new testing will be made (in this case called Lenny), which is a direct clone of Etch. Packages will migrate from Sid to Lenny at the same pace as usual for the testing distro. However, since Etch has been frozen,

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-03 Thread Peter Teunissen
On 2-nov-2005, at 21:37, Thomas wrote: Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on the net but they

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-03 Thread Jan T. Kim
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 06:44:34AM +, s. keeling wrote: Cameron Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] /etc/aliases. It's unsafe to let root receive mail, so generally Uh, what? Why's it unsafe to let root receive email? I agree it's _better_ for root's mail to be aliased to a real

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-02 Thread Thomas
Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on the net but they seemed way too complicated. The howtos i

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-02 Thread Mitch Wiedemann
Thomas wrote: Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on the net but they seemed way too

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-02 Thread Mitch Wiedemann
Thomas wrote: Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on the net but they seemed way too

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-02 Thread Thomas
Marco van Putten wrote: Thomas schreef: Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on the net but

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-02 Thread Thomas
Thomas wrote: Marco van Putten wrote: Thomas schreef: Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-02 Thread Marco van Putten
Thomas schreef: Thomas wrote: Marco van Putten wrote: Thomas schreef: Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I

Re: mailserver absolute noob question (SOLVED)

2005-11-02 Thread Thomas
Marco van Putten wrote: Thomas schreef: Thomas wrote: Marco van Putten wrote: Thomas schreef: Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3

Re: mailserver absolute noob question (SOLVED)

2005-11-02 Thread Thomas
Thomas wrote: Marco van Putten wrote: Thomas schreef: Thomas wrote: Marco van Putten wrote: Thomas schreef: Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-02 Thread mikepolniak
On 23:49 Wed 02 Nov , Thomas wrote: snip Is there a logfile or something that can tell me who is actually denying what? Thanks, Thomas Aha, i found out: mail.log Nov 2 23:26:50 localhost postfix/smtpd[14343]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from nova[10.0.0.2]: 554 [EMAIL

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-02 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hi, On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 09:37:10PM +0100, Thomas wrote: Here my /etc/postfix/main.cf: smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU) biff = no # appending .domain is the MUA's job. append_dot_mydomain = no # Uncomment the next line to generate delayed mail warnings

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-02 Thread s. keeling
Cameron Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] /etc/aliases. It's unsafe to let root receive mail, so generally Uh, what? Why's it unsafe to let root receive email? I agree it's _better_ for root's mail to be aliased to a real user, but safer too? Why? -- Any technology distinguishable

mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-01 Thread Thomas
Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on the net but they seemed way too complicated. The howtos i saw included spamfilters, anitivr software

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-01 Thread Mitch Wiedemann
Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on the net but they seemed way too complicated. The howtos i saw included spamfilters,

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-01 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on the net but they seemed way too complicated. The howtos i saw included spamfilters,

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:31:30PM -0600, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on

Re: mailserver absolute noob question

2005-11-01 Thread Thomas
Mitch Wiedemann wrote: Thomas wrote: Hi there. I would like to setup a mailserver on my debian machine that can receive email from any host and that can be accessed by imap or pop3 (imap would be nice). I have seen some howtos on the net but they seemed way too complicated. The howtos i

Re: The sunday's noob question :)!

2004-08-16 Thread Mezig
Raphaël SurcouF Bordet wrote: Le dimanche 15 août 2004 à 13:35 +0200, TRISTRAM Herve a écrit : pour killer la couche graphique, un CTRL+ALT+RETOUR ARRIERE suffit généralement. Attention pas SUPP à la place de retour sinon ta machine risque de redémarrer ! le probleme c que si tu te loggue

The sunday's noob question :)!

2004-08-15 Thread Mezig
Salut J'ai 1 config basé sur 1 Knoppix upgradée testing, servant de firewall et autre, dont je désire virer toute la partie graphique, qui ne doit plus me servir..., normalement :) ? 1- Par curiosité, comment fait-on pour 'tomber' en console, sans la partie graphique donc ? Note : ai bien

Re: The sunday's noob question :)!

2004-08-15 Thread J.Pierre Pourrez
Le 15/08/04 à 12:32, Mezig écrivait: 1- Par curiosité, comment fait-on pour 'tomber' en console, sans la partie graphique donc ? Note : ai bien essayé Ctrl F1 et Ctrl F2, mais ça ne marche pas... :( ? Pour booter en mode console, faire: knoppix 2 au lancement du cdrom ou modifier la ligne

Re: The sunday's noob question :)!

2004-08-15 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le dimanche 15 Août 2004 12:32, Mezig a écrit : Salut Salut, J'ai 1 config basé sur 1 Knoppix upgradée testing, servant de firewall et autre, dont je désire virer toute la partie graphique, qui ne doit plus me servir..., normalement :) ? 1-

Re: The sunday's noob question :)!

2004-08-15 Thread bobbydjo
Le dimanche 15 aoû 2004 à 12 h 32, Mezig prit sa plus fine plume pour écrire: Salut J'ai 1 config basé sur 1 Knoppix upgradée testing, servant de firewall et autre, dont je désire virer toute la partie graphique, qui ne doit plus me servir..., normalement :) ? oui 1- Par curiosité,

Re: The sunday's noob question :)!

2004-08-15 Thread nicolas
Le Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:00:11 +0200, Mezig a écrit : J'ai 1 config basé sur 1 Knoppix upgradée testing, servant de firewall et autre, dont je désire virer toute la partie graphique, qui ne doit plus me servir..., normalement :) ? 1- Par curiosité, comment fait-on pour 'tomber' en console,

Re: The sunday's noob question :)!

2004-08-15 Thread TRISTRAM Herve
Salut, pour killer la couche graphique, un CTRL+ALT+RETOUR ARRIERE suffit généralement. Attention pas SUPP à la place de retour sinon ta machine risque de redémarrer ! le probleme c que si tu te loggue en mode graphique, la mire de loggin graphique va revenir. Je ne peux pas te dire comment

Re: The sunday's noob question :)!

2004-08-15 Thread Mezig
TRISTRAM Herve wrote: Salut, pour killer la couche graphique, un CTRL+ALT+RETOUR ARRIERE suffit généralement. Attention pas SUPP à la place de retour sinon ta machine risque de redémarrer ! le probleme c que si tu te loggue en mode graphique, la mire de loggin graphique va revenir. Je ne

Re: The sunday's noob question :)!

2004-08-15 Thread \SurcouF\ Bordet
Le dimanche 15 août 2004 à 13:35 +0200, TRISTRAM Herve a écrit : pour killer la couche graphique, un CTRL+ALT+RETOUR ARRIERE suffit généralement. Attention pas SUPP à la place de retour sinon ta machine risque de redémarrer ! le probleme c que si tu te loggue en mode graphique, la mire de

Noob Question: How do I get libperl-dev pkg if debian is down? Mirrors?

2004-01-02 Thread James Garvin
I am trying to setup apache + mod_perl, and I need the libperl-dev package. However, using aptitude, I get the sweet 404 message. I see the security messages on the debian website, about how it was compromised (old news now) so in the meantime: where can I get packages? Can I point the apt* to

Re: Noob Question: How do I get libperl-dev pkg if debian is down? Mirrors?

2004-01-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 11:25:24AM -0500, James Garvin wrote: I am trying to setup apache + mod_perl, and I need the libperl-dev package. However, using aptitude, I get the sweet 404 message. I see the security messages on the debian website, about how it was compromised (old news now) so

Re: [Solved] Noob Question: How do I get libperl-dev pkg if debian is down? Mirrors?

2004-01-02 Thread Jim Garvin
Colin Watson wrote: The archive servers are up, and have been for weeks. I'm mystified: please go into more detail about the error you're seeing. See this link: http://packages.debian.org/stable/ it says: packages.debian.org is down at the moment. However, I found another user's post which

Re: [Solved] Noob Question: How do I get libperl-dev pkg if debian is down? Mirrors?

2004-01-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 12:04:04PM -0500, Jim Garvin wrote: Colin Watson wrote: The archive servers are up, and have been for weeks. I'm mystified: please go into more detail about the error you're seeing. See this link: http://packages.debian.org/stable/ it says: packages.debian.org is

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