On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:32:47 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in
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> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:04:46PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:56:49 -0500, Curt wrote in message
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>> > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
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>> > > and then G
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 08:55:13PM +0100, mc3393 wrote:
> Curt Howland ha scritto:
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> > On Tuesday 20 March 2007 13:17, mc3393 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
> > heard to say:
> >
> > >In retourn, now the people does not agree anymore, but the war must
> > >go on ...
> >
> >
> > Why?
>
> i would like t
Curt Howland ha scritto:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 13:17, mc3393 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
> heard to say:
>
> >In retourn, now the people does not agree anymore, but the war must
> >go on ...
>
>
> Why?
i would like to know i voted for Prodi and Dalema (the left
coalition who won over Berlus
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 09:54 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Please take this somewhere else!
The amount and frequency has been severely diminished.
Just don't read it. It is a clearly marked thread that means nothing.
Don't read it.
Don't get me started on the whole "What is a
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On Tuesday 20 March 2007 13:17, mc3393 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> In retourn, now the people does not agree anymore, but the war must
> go on ...
Why?
Stop shooting. Turn around. Walk away.
I do not know of any reason that _stopping_ d
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
> Please take this somewhere else!
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>
>
why this and not these?
^^^
WIX stands for Windows Installer Xml?.
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 09:54:47AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Please take this somewhere else!
>
> > Roberto C. Sánchez ha scritto:
> >
> >>What you call "W's Iraq war" had the full support (pretty close to
> >>unanimous) of both houses of the US congress.
> >>
> >>
> >>
Please take this somewhere else!
> Roberto C. Sánchez ha scritto:
>
>>What you call "W's Iraq war" had the full support (pretty close to
>>unanimous) of both houses of the US congress.
>>
>>
>>
> So did they deserved to be bombed as in Santiago did the comrades of the
> fascist c
Roberto C. Sánchez ha scritto:
>What you call "W's Iraq war" had the full support (pretty close to
>unanimous) of both houses of the US congress.
>
>
>
So did they deserved to be bombed as in Santiago did the comrades of the
fascist colonel sanchez ?:-)).
In retourn, now the people does not agre
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in Article
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> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:04:46PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:56:49 -0500, Curt wrote in message
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>> > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
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>> > > an
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:04:46PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:56:49 -0500, Curt wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
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> > > and then Germany declared war on us.
> >
> > Yep. The only treaty that Hitler didn't break. One is l
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:56:49 -0500, Curt wrote in message
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> Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> > and then Germany declared war on us.
>
> Yep. The only treaty that Hitler didn't break. One is left scratching
> one's head wondering "why?"
..another "why?", is why it sti
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:55:29 -0800, Freddy wrote in message
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> Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> >
> >> treatment of them was born out of racism, not the fact that we are
> >an > imperialistic society, because racism comes from human nature,
> >not > politics
Am 2007-03-05 22:07:48, schrieb Curt Howland:
> There may very well have been some nasty, reprehensible things done,
> which deserve both wide publicity and boycott. A company, no matter
> how large their market share, cannot force you to buy their product.
> And unless they _sell_ product, they
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On Sunday 11 March 2007 20:54, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard
to say:
> *You* brought up tyrants, as above.
Granted.
Now, shall we compare tyrants? Or shall we compare systems?
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:44:01 -0500
Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:12, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard
> to say:
> > Do you really mean that societies
> > are better off when governed by tyrants than
Curt Howland wrote:
> On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:12, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard
> to say:
>> Do you really mean that societies
>> are better off when governed by tyrants than when governed by
>> democratically elected governments?
>
> Actually, what I said was "monarchy and oligarchy
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On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:12, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard
to say:
> Do you really mean that societies
> are better off when governed by tyrants than when governed by
> democratically elected governments?
Actually, what I said was "monarc
Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:26:08 -0500
> Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> [snip]
>
> > Democracy _sucks_. It makes all problems worse and solves nothing. At
> > least in a monarchy or oligarchy, the ruler has some small incentive
> > to pass on a prospero
Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 09:26:08AM -0500, Curt Howland wrote:
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> > Democracy _sucks_. It makes all problems worse and solves nothing.
>
> Good thing the US isn't a Democracy.
It _thinks_ it's a republic. It _is_ a mobocracy.
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> Curt Howland wrote:
> > Democracy _sucks_. It makes all problems worse and solves
> > nothing.
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Good thing the US isn't a Democracy.
Representatives are democratically elected.
I was referring to "democrac
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:26:08 -0500
Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> Democracy _sucks_. It makes all problems worse and solves nothing. At
> least in a monarchy or oligarchy, the ruler has some small incentive
> to pass on a prosperous nation to their successor. These "elected"
>
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 09:26:08AM -0500, Curt Howland wrote:
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> Democracy _sucks_. It makes all problems worse and solves nothing.
Good thing the US isn't a Democracy.
Regards,
-Roberto
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:17:34 -0500
Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I agree that the US did not specifically "expand the border" into
> every example of military conquest I gave. So you and I do not
> actually disagree.
>
> It remains, however, that I do wonder how those folks f
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> Curt Howland wrote:
> > Actually, the clear implication is that I consider the military
> > occupation of 170 different countries by the US to be
> > reprehensible, which causes me to wonder what the peoples so
> > occupied think of it.
Paul Johnso
Curt Howland wrote:
> Actually, the clear implication is that I consider the military
> occupation of 170 different countries by the US to be reprehensible,
> which causes me to wonder what the peoples so occupied think of it.
Does it matter? We're the ones paying for it, if we think it's
repreh
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 09:18:14PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:34:44AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm willing to argue that Vietnam was worse for us than 1812 was for
>> >> Canada. They at leas
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I stated:
> > I wonder if the Germans would suggest West Berlin, as well as the
> > continued military occupation of Japan.
Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> stated:
> So:
>
> 1) Freddy said that the US has never gone to war to expand its
> borders.
>
> 2)
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:56:49 -0500
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> I said:
> > > I wonder if the Germans would suggest West Berlin, as well as the
> > > continued military occupation of Japan.
>
> Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 09:18:14PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:34:44AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm willing to argue that Vietnam was worse for us than 1812 was for
> >> Canada. They at least made it all the way to the capito
Paul Johnson wrote:
Joe wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Laissez-faire economics is an impossible pipe dream and Germany proved
it. Taken to it's natural end, you get Germany's pre-WWII out-of-control
rapid inflation where soon it takes millions of dollars just to make a
basic grocery run.
So...
Joe wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Laissez-faire economics is an impossible pipe dream and Germany proved
>> it. Taken to it's natural end, you get Germany's pre-WWII out-of-control
>> rapid inflation where soon it takes millions of dollars just to make a
>> basic grocery run.
>>
>>
>>
> S
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:34:44AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I'm willing to argue that Vietnam was worse for us than 1812 was for
>> Canada. They at least made it all the way to the capitol and successfully
>> captured
>> it before resistance and (primarily) the
Paul Johnson wrote:
Curt Howland wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
So the Standard Oil Trust was a good thing, and we should welcome
it's return?
During the time Standard Oil was in operation, the price of kerosine
dropped some 90%.
They're still in operation, though IIRC the
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:34:44AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> I'm willing to argue that Vietnam was worse for us than 1812 was for Canada.
> They at least made it all the way to the capitol and successfully captured
> it before resistance and (primarily) the weather squashed the invasion. I
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:27:09AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> Laissez-faire economics is an impossible pipe dream and Germany proved it.
> Taken to it's natural end, you get Germany's pre-WWII out-of-control rapid
> inflation where soon it takes millions of dollars just to make a basic
> groc
Paul Johnson wrote:
Laissez-faire economics is an impossible pipe dream and Germany proved it.
Taken to it's natural end, you get Germany's pre-WWII out-of-control rapid
inflation where soon it takes millions of dollars just to make a basic
grocery run.
So... in how many countries does the
Curt Howland wrote:
> On Monday 05 March 2007 21:57, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
> heard to say:
>> > As would the Canadians, invaded in 1776 and 1812 unsuccessfully,
>>
>> 1812 was a success. They just couldn't hold Washington for more
>> than a day because a hurricane and the invasion
Curt Howland wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> > So the Standard Oil Trust was a good thing, and we should welcome
>> > it's return?
>
> During the time Standard Oil was in operation, the price of kerosine
> dropped some 90%.
They're still in operation, though IIRC they call themselves Imperial Oi
Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> Methinks you're looking at things backwards.
Er, wha now?
> Hitler used the existing
> The same goes for Indians in North America.
I said nothing about those so how you pull those outta yer nether parts is
beyond me. I was thinking more of the institutionaliz
Ron Johnson wrote:
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On 03/05/07 08:42, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
On that point I will agree with you. The way we treat/ed the Indians is
abominable.
So does this mean that you *do* agree that we conquered other
people's lands?
Steve Lamb wrote:
Freddy Freeloader wrote:
treatment of them was born out of racism, not the fact that we are an
imperialistic society, because racism comes from human nature, not
politics.
I dunno, most examples of modern day racism comes from politics.
Methinks you're looki
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On Monday 05 March 2007 21:57, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> > As would the Canadians, invaded in 1776 and 1812 unsuccessfully,
>
> 1812 was a success. They just couldn't hold Washington for more
> than a day because a hurrican
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Paul Johnson wrote:
> > So the Standard Oil Trust was a good thing, and we should welcome
> > it's return?
During the time Standard Oil was in operation, the price of kerosine
dropped some 90%.
When the company started, all petroleum that wasn't ker
Curt Howland wrote:
> On Monday 05 March 2007 09:36, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to
> say:
>> Freddy Freeloader wrote:
>> > [the United States] have never gone to war to expand our borders
>> >
>>
>> The Native Americans might disagree with you
>
> As would the Canadians, in
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I said:
> > I wonder if the Germans would suggest West Berlin, as well as the
> > continued military occupation of Japan.
Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> How can you possibly claim that the occupation of West Berlin or
> Japan is an example of
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:54:04 -0500
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> On Monday 05 March 2007 09:36, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to
> say:
> > Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> > > [the United States] have never gone to war to expand
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On 03/05/07 08:42, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> On that point I will agree with you. The way we treat/ed the Indians is
> abominable.
So does this mean that you *do* agree that we conquered other
people's lands?
> We should have accommodat
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On Monday 05 March 2007 09:36, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to
say:
> Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> > [the United States] have never gone to war to expand our borders
> >
>
> The Native Americans might disagree with you
As would the
Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> treatment of them was born out of racism, not the fact that we are an
> imperialistic society, because racism comes from human nature, not
> politics.
I dunno, most examples of modern day racism comes from politics.
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On that point I will agree with you. The way we treat/ed the Indians is
abominable. We should have accommodated them, not destroyed them for
there is much we might have learned from them. However, I'd say our
treatment of them was born out of racism, not the fact that we are an
imperialistic soc
Freddy Freeloader wrote:
[the United States] have never gone to war to expand our borders
The Native Americans might disagree with you
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