Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:09:24PM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 17 May 2012 22:52:36 Kelly Clowers wrote: I have no data for this, but I would be willing to bet that singular they is in more widespread use in American English than any of the invented words. Probably also more common than

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-18 Thread Lisi
On Friday 18 May 2012 10:06:37 Darac Marjal wrote: It is generally agreed that Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland speak the same English as England (being all part of the same country). They are not part of the same country, we are four countries, and we do not all speak the same version of

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 18 May 2012 12:22:28 +0100, Lisi wrote in message 201205181222.28673.lisi.re...@gmail.com: I understand American English. I usually do not understand Scottish ..clearly, Kircaldian is a Scottish language, but is it an... English ...language? Yes, I have been there, I mean,

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 06:14:34PM +0100, rjc wrote: Personally it doesn't bother me as much as illeism. We are not amused. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X

OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote: On 17/05/12 03:48 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: On 17/05/2012 06:20 πμ, Gary Dale wrote: I suspect that file recovery is his current priority. It's a she. :-) It's? Shouldn't that be He's a she?  ;) These days I

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread rjc
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 04:59:40PM BST, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote: On 17/05/12 03:48 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: On 17/05/2012 06:20 πμ, Gary Dale wrote: I suspect that file recovery is his current priority. It's

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 17/05/12 17:23, rjc wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 04:59:40PM BST, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote: On 17/05/12 03:48 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: On 17/05/2012 06:20 πμ, Gary Dale wrote: I suspect that file recovery is his

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread rjc
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 05:33:45PM BST, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 17/05/12 17:23, rjc wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 04:59:40PM BST, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:05 AM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote: On 17/05/12 03:48 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: On

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread keith
On Thu, 17 May 2012 17:33:45 +0100 Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org wrote: It would be much better to originate a new word, such as heshe, or shehe, and hisher, instead of overloading an existing plural. One does normally use 's/he'. :) -- keith km3...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 05:33:45PM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: It would be much better to originate a new word, such as heshe, or shehe, and hisher, instead of overloading an existing plural. Egan proposed/used 've', 'ver', 'vim' etc. in the book Diaspora. I was never clear what rules

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:07 AM, keith km3...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2012 17:33:45 +0100 Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org wrote: It would be much better to originate a new word, such as heshe, or shehe, and hisher, instead of overloading an existing plural. Unlike those (and

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 17 May 2012 20:52:36 Kelly Clowers wrote: Unlike those (and similar invented things), they doesn't sound horrible and ridiculously artificial. To many of us, it does. It grates badly. I have no problem at all with (s)he, I also contend that it's she is perfectly acceptable and

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 17 May 2012 20:52:36 Kelly Clowers wrote: Unlike those (and similar invented things), they doesn't sound horrible and ridiculously artificial. To many of us, it does.  It grates badly.  I have no problem at all with

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 17 May 2012 22:52:36 Kelly Clowers wrote: I have no data for this, but I would be willing to bet that singular they is in more widespread use in American English than any of the invented words. Probably also more common than it for unknown-but-present gender. Possibly! Don't get

Re: OT: language (was: Re: something about rm)

2012-05-17 Thread Gary Dale
On 17/05/12 05:25 PM, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 17 May 2012 20:52:36 Kelly Clowers wrote: Unlike those (and similar invented things), they doesn't sound horrible and ridiculously artificial. To many of us, it does. It grates badly. I have no problem at all with (s)he, I also contend that it's