Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 10:48:16PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Brian T wrote: > > > >^ This. I concur 100%. Politically correct language, or politics in > >general, have no place in software. > >-- > >Best regards, > > > >Brian T > > > >Coronavirus is a scam. > >9/11 was an inside job. > >

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
Brian T wrote: > >^ This. I concur 100%. Politically correct language, or politics in >general, have no place in software. >-- >Best regards, > >Brian T > >Coronavirus is a scam. >9/11 was an inside job. Please tell me that you're being ironic here, considering the garbage in your signature...

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-13 Thread Brian Thompson
On 0713, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >and I feel annoyed by the size of your belly >button, you seem pretty much thinking life is centered around yourself. That's a funny statement coming from you. >Don't want to be a dream breaker but it's not the case, same as the way >America's

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-13 6:55 a.m., Brian Thompson wrote: > On 0713, Borden wrote: >> "I don't care what anybody else's experience is," which is the >> reasoning of antisocial personality disorders (per the DSM). > > Didn't know you were a doctor. Good one there. > Don't need to be a doctor to know

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-13 Thread Brian Thompson
On 0713, Borden wrote: > "I don't care what anybody else's experience is," which is the > reasoning of antisocial personality disorders (per the DSM). Didn't know you were a doctor. Good one there. -- Best regards, Brian T Coronavirus is a scam. 9/11 was an inside job. signature.asc

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-13 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 06:32:37AM +0200, Borden wrote: > > It's only offensive to the people who are offended [...] > This is poor reasoning. Or... actually no reasoning at all. > "Foolish at best" and "waste of everyone's time" are personal > opinions, not arguments. "Isn't possible" is a

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Borden
> It's only offensive to the people who are offended.  Theoretically all > words are offensive since any word can be offensive to anyone just because > they deem it so.  Censoring (i.e. changing the language) of everything to > appease everyone 1) isn't possible, 2) is foolish at best, 3) is a >

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Brian Thompson
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 04:45:51PM +0200, Alexandre Garreau wrote: > >I think it is bad policy of morally judging the frustration, anger or tone >of people because of their oppressors. Oppression has come a long weigh. Apparently, in my country, it is considered oppressive to be a minority who

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Brian Thompson
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 08:25:22PM +, ghe2001 wrote: >Master/slave my be less than optimal when describing humans, but they're very >useful when working with DNS. > >And blacklist is useful in SMTP, among others. IIRC, the word refers to >voting in classical Athens, not humans. > >Offensive

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It's only offensive to the people who are offended. Theoretically all > words are offensive since any word can be offensive to anyone just because > they deem it so. Censoring (i.e. changing the language) of everything to > appease everyone 1) isn't possible, 2) is foolish at best, 3) is a >

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 12 July 2021 12:55:27 James H. H. Lampert wrote: > I know people who associate the time-honored metasyntactic "foobar" > with the military slang acronym FUBAR. > > -- > JHHL I've used them interchangeably for 80+ years, and I'll do it till I miss roll call. That particular slang was

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Mon Jul 12 11:07:51 2021 Brian Thompson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 05:39:43PM +0300, Kevin N. wrote: > >>> Right, and I myself have lodged a ticket to ban bar after foo >>> because it might lead to blithe attitudes concerning alcohol >>> in our vulnerable youth. >> >> Don't get me

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Brian Thompson
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 05:39:43PM +0300, Kevin N. wrote: >>Right, and I myself have lodged a ticket to ban bar after foo because it >>might lead to blithe attitudes concerning alcohol in our vulnerable >>youth. > >Don't get me wrong: like many other things, offensive languages is a serious >one.

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Kevin N.
Right, and I myself have lodged a ticket to ban bar after foo because it might lead to blithe attitudes concerning alcohol in our vulnerable youth. Don't get me wrong: like many other things, offensive languages is a serious one. But, instead of helping, I think that you are in fact minimizing

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread James H. H. Lampert
I know people who associate the time-honored metasyntactic "foobar" with the military slang acronym FUBAR. -- JHHL

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Curt
On 2021-07-12, Kevin N. wrote: >> Right, and I myself have lodged a ticket to ban bar after foo because it >> might lead to blithe attitudes concerning alcohol in our vulnerable >> youth. > > Don't get me wrong: like many other things, offensive languages is a > serious one. > But, instead of

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 7/12/21 7:39 AM, Kevin N. wrote: Right, and I myself have lodged a ticket to ban bar after foo because it might lead to blithe attitudes concerning alcohol in our vulnerable youth. Don't get me wrong: like many other things, offensive languages is a serious one. But, instead of helping,

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Alexandre Garreau
Le dimanche 11 juillet 2021, 22:58:55 CEST Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside a écrit : > Hi, > > > Whatever, the use of controversial words in publicly visible code is > > not an indication of a professional attitude. Overdoing juvenile > > enthusiasm for provocation might lead to a result like

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Kevin N.
Right, and I myself have lodged a ticket to ban bar after foo because it might lead to blithe attitudes concerning alcohol in our vulnerable youth. Don't get me wrong: like many other things, offensive languages is a serious one. But, instead of helping, I think that you are in fact minimizing

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread Curt
On 2021-07-11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Whatever, the use of controversial words in publicly visible code is not > an indication of a professional attitude. Overdoing juvenile enthusiasm > for provocation might lead to a result like with the "weboob" package which > got removed from Debian

Re: Useless [Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]]

2021-07-12 Thread Reco
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 06:52:34AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, July 12, 2021 04:11:18 AM Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > And that is childish. > > And that is denigrating. https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct Just a friendly reminder to all

Re: Useless [Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]]

2021-07-12 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, July 12, 2021 04:11:18 AM Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > And that is childish. And that is denigrating.

Re: Useless [Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]]

2021-07-12 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 04:11:18AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-07-12 3:43 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 04:58:55PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> It's really childish to gratify oneself by

Writing angry comments inside code and forgetting that opensource means world will read you [ was : Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]]

2021-07-12 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-12 3:43 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 04:58:55PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > [...] > >> It's really childish to gratify oneself by putting offensive comments in >> a software. > > Denigrating someone because you disagree with

Re: Useless [Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]]

2021-07-12 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-07-12 3:43 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 04:58:55PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > [...] > >> It's really childish to gratify oneself by putting offensive comments in >> a software. > > Denigrating someone because you disagree with

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 04:59:52AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 12/07/2021 4:32 am, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > You can also run into problems with different languages. For > instance a Swedish developer would have no problem using terms fart, > prick, and fack, but some English

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-12 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 04:58:55PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > It's really childish to gratify oneself by putting offensive comments in > a software. Denigrating someone because you disagree with him/her is not a sign of wisdom. Quoting your own signature: "be

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-11 Thread jeremy ardley
On 12/07/2021 4:32 am, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 08:25:22PM +, ghe2001 wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Master/slave my be less than optimal when describing humans, but they're very useful when working with DNS. And blacklist is useful in

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-11 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, > Whatever, the use of controversial words in publicly visible code is not > an indication of a professional attitude. Overdoing juvenile enthusiasm > for provocation might lead to a result like with the "weboob" package which > got removed from Debian >

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-11 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 08:25:22PM +, ghe2001 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > > > Master/slave my be less than optimal when describing humans, but they're very > useful when working with DNS. > > And blacklist is useful in SMTP, among others. IIRC, the word

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-11 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Master/slave my be less than optimal when describing humans, but they're very useful when working with DNS. And blacklist is useful in SMTP, among others. IIRC, the word refers to voting in classical Athens, not humans. Offensive terms

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 10:05:39PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Brian wrote: > > Variable change? A link from either of you, please. > > After googling "offensive variable name" i got to: > > "Fix use of offensive word in kafka receiver factory_test" >

Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]

2021-07-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > Variable change? A link from either of you, please. After googling "offensive variable name" i got to: "Fix use of offensive word in kafka receiver factory_test" https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-collector/issues/2286 which led to "changed variable name