Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-03-02 Thread Daniel Robbins
WOW! Now my delete key is working under XWindows! Now *I* discover .inputrc! This should definitely be set by default. Can I make a global file so these options will apply to all users? (Maybe put it in /etc/X11/inputrc)? Yes? No? On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Lindsay Allen wrote: Ever since I

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-03-02 Thread Alexander Gieg
It seems that someone is packaging LinuxConf. This software can also take care of the Linux's boot process, but the Debian developers seems don't know about it... :-( Linuxconf has some nice features but it has the serious drawback that it replaces the sysvinit. This would break every

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-03-02 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Alexander Gieg wrote: Linuxconf has some nice features but it has the serious drawback that it replaces the sysvinit. This would break every single program that needs to be started at boot time. Using Linuxconf would require changing nearly every important package so

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-03-01 Thread Lindsay Allen
Ever since I started using Debian about two years ago I have been gnashing my teeth here because the DEL/HOME/END keys did not work at the prompt. Now I discover .inputrc. This is IMO a prime candidate for something that can and should be installed along with bash on day one, on ix86 boxes. Or

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-28 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Alexander Gieg wrote: *All* of this, except those things about default prompts, are done by the LinuxConf project, a very cool system manager for Linux. See at: http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ It seems that someone is packaging LinuxConf. This software

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: If someone is going to evaluate an entire distribution on a prompt (even if there are other factors), I'm not going to be upset if they don't choose Debian. I'm no talking about just the prompt. We're talking about good and

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Walker: I'm not sure about the situation in unstable, but in stable neither the menu package, or fvwm2 seem to provide /etc/menu-methods/fvwm2. This file is available in /usr/doc/menu/examples. Because of this, the menu is not updated by default. Is this the case in unstable or should

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Joey Hess
Yoav Cohen-Sivan: It seems that Debian is taking a rather different philosophy on pre-configured packages than other distributions, such as RedHat. What I mean is that after installation of RedHat you have a more or less pre-tailored system setup. You can start tweaking your heart out but the

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: Debian comes up in a much rawer form after install - for instance, no prompt beyond the basic # for root and $ for the user (RedHat gives you the now famous username /home/username$ prompt). # and $ are standard/expected prompts. if

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: If someone is going to evaluate an entire distribution on a prompt (even if there are other factors), I'm not going to be upset if they don't choose Debian. I'm no talking

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Scott Stanley
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: Debian comes up in a much rawer form after install - for instance, no prompt beyond the basic # for root and $ for the user (RedHat gives you the now famous username /home/username$

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Scott Stanley
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: If someone is going to evaluate an entire distribution on a prompt (even if there are other factors), I'm not going to be upset if

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Scott Stanley wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: I wonder if it would be possible to make a package that included a good degree of the typical customizations? I have setup 3 debian machines right from the

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Scott Stanley
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Scott Stanley wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: I wonder if it would be possible to make a package that included a good degree of the typical

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: So start by learning what you need to know to have a nicer setup. If you dont have the time to trace through all the documentation to find out exactly what needs to be done, then at least skim the docs to get an overview of how it works and ask

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-27 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey So when I installed debian, I was pleasantly suprised to Joey find all these packages prompting me for configuration Joey information in their postinst scripts, and I ended up with a Joey working system with all the necessary

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: It seems that Debian is taking a rather different philosophy on pre-configured packages than other distributions, such as RedHat. What I mean is that after installation of RedHat you have a more or less pre-tailored system setup. You can start

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: Debian comes up in a much rawer form after install - for instance, no prompt beyond the basic # for root and $ for the user (RedHat gives you the now famous username /home/username$ prompt). # and $ are standard/expected prompts. if you want

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Guy Maor
Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Debian should provide a nicer default for the prompt. Many people take this things into account when deciding which distribution they like best. My mind is reeling. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Pete Templin
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: # and $ are standard/expected prompts. if you want something different, customise it yourself. He's right Debian should provide a nicer default for the prompt. Many people take this

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Pete Templin wrote: He's right Debian should provide a nicer default for the prompt. Many people take this things into account when deciding which distribution they like best. If someone is going to evaluate an entire distribution on a prompt (even if there are

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Ioannis Tambouras
Debian should provide a nicer default for the prompt. Many people take this things into account when deciding which distribution they like best. The flag of Texas should be a good prompt. DOS can do that, you know! Sorry, it's been a long day. This .sig is multi-threaded.

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Chris Walker
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: X is pretty bare in Debian after install, too - if you just startx you get a simple xterm with no default menus, no menued way of running another xterm, heck not even a FvwmModule running on screen with xload

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread Yoav Cohen-Sivan
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: Debian comes up in a much rawer form after install - for instance, no prompt beyond the basic # for root and $ for the user (RedHat gives you the now famous username

RE: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-26 Thread William Chow
On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Kevin McEnhill wrote: Yoav wrote: #ifdef QUOTE It seems that Debian is taking a rather different philosophy on pre-configured packages than other distributions, such as RedHat. What I snip a comparison of different

Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-25 Thread Yoav Cohen-Sivan
It seems that Debian is taking a rather different philosophy on pre-configured packages than other distributions, such as RedHat. What I mean is that after installation of RedHat you have a more or less pre-tailored system setup. You can start tweaking your heart out but the basics are already

RE: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-25 Thread Kevin McEnhill
Yoav wrote: #ifdef QUOTE It seems that Debian is taking a rather different philosophy on pre-configured packages than other distributions, such as RedHat. What I snip a comparison of different packaging set-ups It seems as if Debian is catering to

Re: Package configuration philosophy

1997-02-25 Thread James LewisMoss
Yoav == Yoav Cohen-Sivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yoav My proposition - let's go for the more casual, yet Yoav sophisticated user. A user that DOES want to read the Fvwm man Yoav page to learn how to set it up to his own tastes, BUT doesn't Yoav want to do it 2 hours after installing the