Re: Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-28 Thread Tom Dial
On 1/28/20 03:15, Aidan Gauland wrote: On 27/01/20 12:40 pm, Tom Dial wrote: I can't tell whether or not this response is facetious. If it is, and you are not determined for other reasons to use Linux, I recommend FreeNAS No, I was serious, but I do have limits.  I've looked at FreeNAS,

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-28 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-01-25 19:21, Aidan Gauland wrote: I love over-complicating my hobbies. I get better results with KISS. On 2020-01-27 10:00, Aidan Gauland wrote: Can a r-pi be set up with RAID easily? On 2020-01-28 02:08, Aidan Gauland wrote: Going by all the replies on this subthread, even the

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 January 2020 14:02:24 deloptes wrote: > Aidan Gauland wrote: > >> On 27/01/20 12:59 am, ghe wrote: > >>> If you don't already have all the router(s) and WiFi access points > >>> and such, may I suggest a pile of Raspberry Pis. > >> > >> Can a r-pi be set up with RAID easily? > > > >

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-28 Thread deloptes
Aidan Gauland wrote: >> On 27/01/20 12:59 am, ghe wrote: >>> If you don't already have all the router(s) and WiFi access points >>> and such, may I suggest a pile of Raspberry Pis. >> Can a r-pi be set up with RAID easily? > Going by all the replies on this subthread, even the latest model r-pi >

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-28 Thread deloptes
Aidan Gauland wrote: > No, I was serious, but I do have limits.  I've looked at FreeNAS, but I > would much rather use Debian, partially for familiarity, and party > because this will be a multi-purpose server, not just a NAS. but you originally mentioned explicitly it was for NAS - this is

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-28 Thread Aidan Gauland
On 26/01/20 2:58 pm, Josef Grosch wrote: The document I used as a guide to set this up is https://wiki.debian.org/ZFS Two things I would advise when using ZFS is 1) never let the filesystem get to more than 80% full and 2) run a weekly zpool scrub. Mine runs our of cron. Thanks, this looks

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-28 Thread Aidan Gauland
On 27/01/20 12:40 pm, Tom Dial wrote: I can't tell whether or not this response is facetious. If it is, and you are not determined for other reasons to use Linux, I recommend FreeNAS No, I was serious, but I do have limits.  I've looked at FreeNAS, but I would much rather use Debian,

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-28 Thread Aidan Gauland
On 27/01/20 3:58 am, Stefan Monnier wrote: I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade hardware, and run Debian stable on it.  For hardware, I am probably going to get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA drive capacity, and put WD Reds in it.

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-28 Thread Aidan Gauland
On 28/01/20 7:00 am, Aidan Gauland wrote: On 27/01/20 12:59 am, ghe wrote: If you don't already have all the router(s) and WiFi access points and such, may I suggest a pile of Raspberry Pis. Can a r-pi be set up with RAID easily? Going by all the replies on this subthread, even the latest

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 January 2020 19:34:30 ghe wrote: > On 1/27/20 11:00 AM, Aidan Gauland wrote: > > Can a r-pi be set up with RAID easily? > > Define 'easily' :-) > > Its OS is a reasonably close clone of Debian, and I've had very little > trouble doing *nix tricks with it. But there's no disk and no

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread ghe
On 1/27/20 12:43 PM, deloptes wrote: > perhaps yes as it is more or less normal linux, but where do you attach the > disks - do you think of using a SATA extention? > > I do not know what is the throughput of such extentions, but should be > considered. The USB3 ports on the 4 might be fast

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread ghe
On 1/27/20 11:00 AM, Aidan Gauland wrote: > Can a r-pi be set up with RAID easily? Define 'easily' :-) Its OS is a reasonably close clone of Debian, and I've had very little trouble doing *nix tricks with it. But there's no disk and no SATA interfaces. A couple USB disks would do it, but I

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread basti
we use IPU boards as firewall in raid mode (https://www.ipu-system.de/index.html) with a raid. with a big smata it could also be used as NAS. not shure if it's selled in other countrys. Am 27.01.20 um 22:27 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:23:49PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 12:20:01PM +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: I'd recommend the ext4 filesystem in combination with RAID1 with MDADM of each two devices such that you have two or three filesystems. If everything needs to be a single filesystem, I'd go for RAID10. I agree with most of this

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:23:49PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [...] > A quite cheap (but not too cheap like RPi) option is Olimex LIME2 with > native SATA port: > https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A20/A20-OLinuXino-LIME2/ This one actually looks nice. But just one SATA port,

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:16:24PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Does the Raspi chipset support natively SATA? There are other small, affordable SBCs with direct SATA support. They'd make more sense for this application. OTOH -- if the main interest is in tinkering and learning... tinker away!

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting deloptes (2020-01-27 21:42:40) > basti wrote: > > > Yes a rpi can run software raid with mdadm. In this case I would use > > a rpi4b with USB3 and USB to SATA adapter but be aware that the rpi > > is at the moment not fully supportet by debian > >

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 09:42:40PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > basti wrote: > > > Yes a rpi can run software raid with mdadm. In this case I would use a > > rpi4b with USB3 and USB to SATA adapter [...] > I tried many years ago SATA adapter with USB2 and the performance was very > poor. Might be

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread basti
Am 27.01.20 um 21:42 schrieb deloptes: basti wrote: Yes a rpi can run software raid with mdadm. In this case I would use a rpi4b with USB3 and USB to SATA adapter but be aware that the rpi is at the moment not fully supportet by debian (https://github.com/lategoodbye/rpi-zero/issues/43). If

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread deloptes
basti wrote: > Yes a rpi can run software raid with mdadm. In this case I would use a > rpi4b with USB3 and USB to SATA adapter but be aware that the rpi is at > the moment not fully supportet by debian > (https://github.com/lategoodbye/rpi-zero/issues/43). If raspian is good > enough for your

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread basti
Am 27.01.20 um 20:43 schrieb deloptes: Aidan Gauland wrote: Can a r-pi be set up with RAID easily? perhaps yes as it is more or less normal linux, but where do you attach the disks - do you think of using a SATA extention? I do not know what is the throughput of such extentions, but should

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread deloptes
Aidan Gauland wrote: > Can a r-pi be set up with RAID easily? perhaps yes as it is more or less normal linux, but where do you attach the disks - do you think of using a SATA extention? I do not know what is the throughput of such extentions, but should be considered.

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread Aidan Gauland
On 27/01/20 12:59 am, ghe wrote: If you don't already have all the router(s) and WiFi access points and such, may I suggest a pile of Raspberry Pis. Can a r-pi be set up with RAID easily?

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread basti
On 27.01.20 16:29, Klaus Singvogel wrote: > 황병희 wrote: >>> Mine are all RPi3+. >> >> +1, also i think RPi is good. > > Please think about installation of a 64-bit distribution too. > > As soon as your NAS stores large files, and they should become avail via > webinterface/php, the 64-bit will

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread Klaus Singvogel
황병희 wrote: > > Mine are all RPi3+. > > +1, also i think RPi is good. Please think about installation of a 64-bit distribution too. As soon as your NAS stores large files, and they should become avail via webinterface/php, the 64-bit will become necessary. In my case: I was running my OwnCloud

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-27 Thread 황병희
> Mine are all RPi3+. +1, also i think RPi is good. Sincerely, -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-26 Thread elvis
Hello Aiden On 26/1/20 11:34 am, Aidan Gauland wrote: I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade hardware, and run Debian stable on it.  For hardware, I am probably going to get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA drive capacity, and put WD

Re: Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-26 Thread Tom Dial
On 1/25/20 20:21, Aidan Gauland wrote: On 26/01/20 3:17 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: ext4 is the best way to go unless you have extremely specific needs or you really want to overcomplicate things for a hobby. I love over-complicating my hobbies. I can't tell whether or not this response is

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-26 Thread Levente
I recommend ext4 and ECC RAM modules. I use this setup. All my clients are Linux machines, so I use NFS for the sake of simplicity. On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 02:34 Aidan Gauland wrote: > I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade > hardware, and run Debian stable on it.

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-26 Thread Dan Ritter
Linux-Fan wrote: > Aidan Gauland writes: > > > I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade > > hardware, and run Debian stable on it.  For hardware, I am probably > > going to get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA > > drive capacity, and put WD

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-26 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade > hardware, and run Debian stable on it.  For hardware, I am probably > going to get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA > drive capacity, and put WD Reds in it. Unless you already own that hardware

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-26 Thread ghe
> On Jan 25, 2020, at 06:34 PM, Aidan Gauland wrote: > > I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade > hardware, and run Debian stable on it. For hardware, I am probably going to > get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA drive > capacity,

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-26 Thread Linux-Fan
Aidan Gauland writes: I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade hardware, and run Debian stable on it.  For hardware, I am probably going to get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA drive capacity, and put WD Reds in it. What I'm not

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-25 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-01-25 17:34, Aidan Gauland wrote: I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade hardware, and run Debian stable on it.  For hardware, I am probably going to get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA drive capacity, and put WD Reds in it.

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-25 Thread Aidan Gauland
On 26/01/20 3:17 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: ext4 is the best way to go unless you have extremely specific needs or you really want to overcomplicate things for a hobby. I love over-complicating my hobbies.

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 7:34 PM Aidan Gauland wrote: > I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade > hardware, and run Debian stable on it. For hardware, I am probably > going to get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA > drive capacity, and put

Re: Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-25 Thread Josef Grosch
On 1/25/20 5:34 PM, Aidan Gauland wrote: I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade hardware, and run Debian stable on it.  For hardware, I am probably going to get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA drive capacity, and put WD Reds in it.

Planning a Debian NAS

2020-01-25 Thread Aidan Gauland
I want to set up a file server on my home LAN with just consumer-grade hardware, and run Debian stable on it.  For hardware, I am probably going to get a refurbished mid-range tower with a four to six 3.5" SATA drive capacity, and put WD Reds in it. What I'm not sure of which filesystem to