Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-02-10 Thread Thomas Amm
On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:27:33 -0600 "Martin McCormick" wrote: > deloptes writes: > > IMO read error means CD is bad, dirty scratched whatever > > > > regards > > Thank you but I think it is confused as the disk is brand new, > part of a set and

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > $ od cd-track00-432975-2/track00.cdda.wav > /tmp/od > 000 044522 043106 027524 01 040527 042526 066546 020164 Octal. Argh. gdb and man ascii to the rescue. R I F F T / \001 \000 W A V E f m t Looks like a .wav header:

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Wed 31 Jan 2018 at 12:42:20 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > The "problem CD" is pure audio. > > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > I thought you'd identified that track 17 (at least) was marked as a data > > track, but I might not have been following the discussion closely >

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > The "problem CD" is pure audio. Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I thought you'd identified that track 17 (at least) was marked as a data > track, but I might not have been following the discussion closely > enough. To my memory this was shown as example of a "no problem" CD.

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-31 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:03:27PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i wrote: > They saw a CD and tried UDF. Cluelessly and in vain. Jonathan Dowland wrote: They did that because of the fstab line which specified udf, and the presence of a data track on the CD. The "problem CD" is pure

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, allthough it quite works now, there remain some riddles to me in your report. Martin McCormick wrote: > There were 6 CD's in the book and the first 4 > all had that spoiler file in track 0 and audio files the rest of > the way to LOUT. Normally track counting begins by 1. Sometimes at a

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-29 Thread Martin McCormick
"Thomas Schmitt" writes: > This is a READ(10) attempt, which a system with a clue should not try > on tracks with CONTROL value 0. > I get a more standards compliant Sense Code from my ASUS BW-16D1HT burner > than Martin McCormick got from his SONY CRX140E, which seems to be

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > it is really a pity - as those things are just bits Actually its pits and lands. The bits emerge only after detecting pit-land changes, converting 14 nearly-bits to 8 quite-really-bits and then decoding them from Reed- Solomon representation to even fewer payload bits.

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-29 Thread Martin McCormick
Charlie Gibbs writes: > On 28/01/18 01:04 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Martin McCormick wrote: > > > cdparanoia [...] plays but you lose the individual track > boundaries as > you see in the listing above. > > > I guess you'd need to read the

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-29 Thread deloptes
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Good luck reading audio track data from CD-ROMs with dd. Or subcode > information. Tip: you can't. :D you are correct - it is really a pity - as those things are just bits

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-29 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, January 29, 2018 04:51:33 AM Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 01:27:08AM +0100, deloptes wrote: > >in any case no one can take the power of dd away :D > > Good luck reading audio track data from CD-ROMs with dd. Or subcode > information. Tip: you can't. I guess I'll

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > They saw a CD and tried UDF. Cluelessly and in vain. Jonathan Dowland wrote: > They did that because of the fstab line which specified udf, and the > presence of a data track on the CD. The "problem CD" is pure audio. No indication on Table-Of-Content level that there would be

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 10:04:22AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Martin McCormick wrote: I thought it was udf because one of the two systems I tried it on spewed out a reference to udffs They saw a CD and tried UDF. Cluelessly and in vain. They did that because of the fstab line which

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 01:27:08AM +0100, deloptes wrote: in any case no one can take the power of dd away :D Good luck reading audio track data from CD-ROMs with dd. Or subcode information. Tip: you can't. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > My CD player, however, likes CD-DA much better. Insists on it, actually. This illustrates the general decay of moral and good manners. CD drives should be seen but not heard. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-28 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 28/01/18 01:04 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Martin McCormick wrote: cdparanoia [...] plays but you lose the individual track boundaries as you see in the listing above. I guess you'd need to read the tracks one by one, like cdparanoia -d $drivespec "1-1" track_1.wav cdparanoia -d

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, so the problem CD is just a pure audio CD with no filesystem to mount. Entertainment CD pliayers should have no problem with it. Operating systems and system demons should be able to recognize its state, and thus avoid the futile mount attempts. Martin McCormick wrote: > cdparanoia [...]

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread Glenn English
May I suggest cdparanoia? I'm calling it with Python, and it's a lovely piece of software. Makes wavs of everything I've thrown at it, with good info on the screen and all the tracks are on my HDD, with no silliness. -- Glenn English

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread Martin McCormick
"Thomas Schmitt" writes: > I see that wodim does not display session end marks, as cdrskin does. cdrskin to the rescue. > With cdrskin there is an option with better readable output > > cdrskin -v dev=/dev/sr1 -minfo > > (Not to be confused with option -msinfo.) > It

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread Martin McCormick
"Thomas Schmitt" writes: > Hi, > > Martin McCormick wrote: > > Here is the output from a normal music CD. > > track: 1 lba: 0 (0) 00:02:00 adr: 1 control: 0 mode: 0 > > track: 2 lba: 19142 (76568) 04:17:17 adr: 1 control: 0 mode: 0 > > These are

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread deloptes
Martin McCormick wrote: > I think there is a deliberate protocol violation in the > control data that is there to discourage copying as there are > just too many brand new disks (6 all together) for them all to be > duds.  I do agree that damaged disks do normally throw these > errors but it also

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Martin McCormick wrote: > Here is the output from a normal music CD. > track: 1 lba: 0 (0) 00:02:00 adr: 1 control: 0 mode: 0 > track: 2 lba: 19142 (76568) 04:17:17 adr: 1 control: 0 mode: 0 These are audio tracks. No filesystem. Neither ISO 9660 nor UDF. >

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread Martin McCormick
deloptes writes: > IMO read error means CD is bad, dirty scratched whatever > > regards Thank you but I think it is confused as the disk is brand new, part of a set and all of them spew errors when placed in a drive. They also play flawlessly in a DVD player which is one of

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread deloptes
Martin McCormick wrote: > sr 1:0:1:0: [sr1]  <> ASC=0xc6 ASCQ=0x2ASC=0xc6 ASCQ=0x2 > sr 1:0:1:0: [sr1] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 05 06 a2 00 00 02 00 > end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 1317512 > Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 164689 > > It looks like it probably can read

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread Martin McCormick
"Thomas Schmitt" writes: > First issue will be to clarify the true nature of this CD medium. > Audio CDs (CD-DA) are recorded without any filesystem. There are "tracks" > which usually each contain one piece of music. Tracks may be grouped > by sessions. But that's rare with

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bernd Gruber wrote: > I'm not sure, but isn't there a certain package / library that's needed for > udf-support? Jessie's kernel 3.16 should have full UDF support by the code in: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/64aa90f26c06e1cb2aacfb98a7d0eccfbd6c1a91/fs/udf fs/udf/Kconfig points

Re: Playing or Ripping UDF CDs Under jessie

2018-01-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Martin McCormick wrote: > I started to play an audio CD which is part of a book and ran in > to an interesting problem. The CD is recorded using the UDF file > system and it does play perfectly on a DVD player. First issue will be to clarify the true nature of this CD medium. Audio CDs